[Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-04 Thread Dennis Reichel
What are the best practices for backing up Evolution data? Though these are (mostly) general sorts of questions, I'm using Evolution 3.16.5 on Fedora 22. What specifically is backed up when you back up you "Backup Evolution Data.."? What can be done to ensure the entire email base is both downl

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2015-09-04 at 12:19 -0400, Dennis Reichel wrote: > What are the best practices for backing up Evolution data? I just back up my home directory. If you want more detail then look at the Help topic on exporting Evolution data. > Though these are (mostly) general sorts of questions, I'm usi

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread John Lauterbach
each day. I use SpiderOak for offsite backup. If I could have evolution do this automatically, I would never lose more than a day's e-mail. John -Original Message- From: Dennis Reichel Reply-to: den...@reichel.net To: Evolution Mailing List Subject: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Dennis Reichel
backups at a certain time each day. I use SpiderOak for offsite > backup. If I could have evolution do this automatically, I would > never lose more than a day's e-mail. > > John > > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Reichel > Reply-to: den...@reichel.net > T

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:10 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote: > It would be a nice addition to evolution to be able to schedule > backups at a > certain time each day. I use SpiderOak for offsite backup. If I > could have > evolution do this automatically, I would never lose more than a day's > e-ma

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Zan Lynx
On 09/08/2015 09:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > As has been said repeatedly, the "backup" command in Evo is not > intended for periodic backups but for when you need to move your Evo > installation to another machine. If the Evolution developers are reading this I'd like to point out (again)

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Pete Biggs
> > If the Evolution developers are reading this I'd like to point out > (again) that expecting people to remember and use an obscure, > application-specific backup feature is unrealistic. I hardly think that a menu item labelled "Backup Evolution Data ..." under "File" is obscure, nor is it nec

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread John Lauterbach
t see the objection to doing what works. John -Original Message- From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 16:55:08 +0100 On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:10 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote: > It would be a

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:17 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > > As has been said repeatedly, the "backup" command in Evo is not > > intended for periodic backups but for when you need to move your > Evo > > installation to another machine. > > If the Evolution developers are reading this I'd like to point

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:28 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote: > Not all of us are on servers. Not clear whether you're referring to the mail system or the backup system, If it's the former, then of course we are all on servers but not all of them are IMAP, however my point was specifically in relation

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Andrea Vai
Il giorno mer, 09/09/2015 alle 00.13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:17 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > > > As has been said repeatedly, the "backup" command in Evo is not > > > intended for periodic backups but for when you need to move your > > Evo > > > installation to

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Roy Reese
On Wednesday, 09/09/2015 Andrea Vai wrote: > I was also wondering about a better name... what about "Export > Evolution data" and "Import Evolution data"? Despite they would be > similar to the below "Import..." menu item, I think that they would > be clearly understood as different things (evo vs

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 11:01 -0400, Dennis Reichel wrote: > Thanks John, > > That's helpful information. My understanding of IMAP is that either > the message header or header with message body may be downloaded. > For > a backup to be most useful, the message body should also be included. >

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 11:01 -0400, Dennis Reichel wrote: > Cron or scheduled within Evolution, automatic data backups would be a > great feature. Oops, I missed this in the previous email. The backup/restore built in the Evolution is very simple and it is done by a separate binary, which takes so

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Pete Biggs
> Not all of us are on servers. Also, my laptop (where mail evo with > my business-related e-mail) is on 24/7 except when going through > airport security, etc. The same for my two desktops. I cannot > afford to loose what I have on the evo on my laptop. If you are doing periodic backups of y

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 10:25 +0200, Roy Reese wrote: > On Wednesday, 09/09/2015 Andrea Vai wrote: > > I was also wondering about a better name... what about "Export > > Evolution data" and "Import Evolution data"? Despite they would be > > similar to the below "Import..." menu item, I think that the

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis Reichel
> just a little clarification about backing up any remote data > (including > IMAP, NNTP, EWS, CalDAV, WebDAV, On The Web, ... basically anything > what stores its data into ~/.cache), the built in backup doesn't > store/restore these caches, because that's only a local copy of the > server data,

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 08/09/2015 alle 18.21 +0100, Pete Biggs ha scritto: > > > > Evolution and Gnome itself are very unhelpful with this by > spreading > > necessary information into at least three different directories: > > .local, > > .config and gsettings / dconf / gconf / whatever-conf. > > > > One

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Rudolf Künzli
I recently had to install my stuff to a new system. I am a lazy guy, I just copied my whole /home folder from my backup disk over the new virgin /home folder and did allow all data to be merged. Worked fine for me... Fedora 22, evolution 3.16.5, firefox and so on... -- Rudolf Künzli On Wed, 2015-

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 09/09/2015 alle 16.32 +0200, Rudolf Künzli ha scritto: > I recently had to install my stuff to a new system. > I am a lazy guy, I just copied my whole /home folder from my backup > disk over the new virgin /home folder and did allow all data to be > merged. > Worked fine for me... >

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Rudolf Künzli
Sure, Dario. I just wonder why you're running TB and Evolution on the same system. Just curious... Ciao -- Rudolf Künzli On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 16:41 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > Il giorno mer, 09/09/2015 alle 16.32 +0200, Rudolf Künzli ha scritto: > > I recently had to install my stuff to a new sy

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Evolution conforms to Gnome standards, because it's a Gnome > > application. Firefox/Thunderbird aren't Gnome applications - if they > > were they should store their data according to Gnome guidelines. > > Ok, then? Look, I'm not saying one way or the other is correct. They are different.

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 09/09/2015 alle 16.47 +0200, Rudolf Künzli ha scritto: > Sure, Dario. I just wonder why you're running TB and Evolution on the > same system. I use Evo for my primary email account POP3, and TB for extra various IMAP/POP3 accounts, point to email servers of my clients for test only.

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Ángel González
Evolution uses different folders for different types of content, following the XDG Base Specification, which is actually a good thing. > From this info: > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.en > I understand want to copy this folder: > > ~/.local/share/evolution

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-10 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 09/09/2015 alle 23.58 +0200, Ángel González ha scritto: > Evolution uses different folders for different types of content, > following the XDG Base Specification, which is actually a good thing. Yes, i agree, this is a good thing. > > From this info: > > https://help.gnome.org/user

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-13 Thread Tom
Am Dienstag, den 08.09.2015, 16:55 +0100 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:10 -0400, John Lauterbach wrote: > > It would be a nice addition to evolution to be able to schedule > > backups at a > > certain time each day. I use SpiderOak for offsite backup. If I > > could have

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-14 Thread Pete Biggs
> Hoping not to go too far OT, but what's the advantage over rsync in this > context ? > Because it does versioning. See http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ (which is what rsnapshot is based on) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evol

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 09:51 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Hoping not to go too far OT, but what's the advantage over rsync in > > this > > context ? > > > > Because it does versioning. > > See http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ (which is > what rsnapshot is based on) That site

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-14 Thread Emilio Recio
RSnapShot allows you to do incremental backups (using hardlinks) vs Rsync which you would have to script to do what rsnapshot does. Honestly, if you don't care for point-in-time backups, then just use rsync. I use them both on a case-by-case basis. On 09/13/15 11:19, Tom wrote: > Am Dienstag, den

Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-10-04 Thread rbre gmx
the partition sda5 is new installed and empty Now I can safely implement any tips from you. Regards at all Ralph Weitergeleitete Nachricht Von: Rudolf Künzli An: Dario Lesca , evolution-list@gnome.org Betreff: Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data Datum: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 16:32