Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 16:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 14:21 -0500, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > 2) Minimal window managers like FVWM typically get installed with > > Xsessions which instruct GDM to handle session management. AFAICT, > > this uses gnome-session to star

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 14:21 -0500, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > 2) Minimal window managers like FVWM typically get installed with > Xsessions which instruct GDM to handle session management. AFAICT, > this uses gnome-session to start FVWM. This way, all the fdo stuff > gets started, and then the othe

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Quoting Ross Vandegrift : I've been following this thread, but only a little bit. So let me apologize if this ignores something you've explained. ... I am, at this point, confident that if I could convince gnome-session to start correctly, my issues would be fixed. KDE probably has something

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hi Patrick, I've been following this thread, but only a little bit. So let me apologize if this ignores something you've explained. I suspect I am seeing some of the same difficulties that you are. Actually, nothing related to Evolution or KDE (my box can't inhibit auto-suspending under Enlight

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 19:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > $ env|grep GNOME > GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-JmCobi > GNOME_KEYRING_PID=2040 > > However neither PID 2040, nor file /tmp/keyring-JmCobi exist (a bunch > of > other /tmp/keyring* files do exist). This looks like it's worth > i

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 09:56 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > I know you've said previously that you have two instances of > > > gnome-keyring-daemon running - is that still the case? Do you know when > > > they are started? > > > > Immediately after logging in, but before running Evo, I have

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-08 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > > I know you've said previously that you have two instances of > > gnome-keyring-daemon running - is that still the case? Do you know when > > they are started? > > Immediately after logging in, but before running Evo, I have: > > 23795 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 14:07 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > ... and we're back. I updated my system and on logging in again Evo once > > more asked me for my login password, which it had not done on the > > earlier test (honest, guv). > > > > Back to the drawing board. > > I know you've said previou

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-07 Thread Pete Biggs
> ... and we're back. I updated my system and on logging in again Evo once > more asked me for my login password, which it had not done on the > earlier test (honest, guv). > > Back to the drawing board. I know you've said previously that you have two instances of gnome-keyring-daemon running -

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 09:23 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 00:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > What I think is also happening for some people who use KDE, is that > > > the > > > login keyring is not unlocked by PA

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-06 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 00:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > What I think is also happening for some people who use KDE, is that > > the > > login keyring is not unlocked by PAM, so when Evo starts, the > > gnome-keyring daemon is started

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:12 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > What I think is also happening for some people who use KDE, is that > the > login keyring is not unlocked by PAM, so when Evo starts, the > gnome-keyring daemon is started and that asks for the password to the > 'login' keyring, to try and find

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I have two keyrings too, login and default, and it doesn't ask me > twice. It only ask once to unlock the keyring and that's all. > > I think that this is very weird. It has to have some kind of logic > somewhere but I just can't see it. As I understand it If PAM is setup correctl

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Lailah
Well, the keyring password is because there are all the passwords of all of your accounts. You can see this, typing wrong password twice; you will have a prompt asking you for the password of every account you have, to receive and to send. So it has logic. Is the login password that I don't see

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-05 Thread Lailah
May I bother you a little, boys? I have two keyrings too, login and default, and it doesn't ask me twice. It only ask once to unlock the keyring and that's all. I think that this is very weird. It has to have some kind of logic somewhere but I just can't see it. Regards Sylvia signatur

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 00:46 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > I too have two keyrings - 'login' and 'default' - all my passwords are > > in 'default' and I get asked for a password every time I start up Gnome > > - so I thought I would do a bit of reading ... > > > > It appears that unfortunately

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I too have two keyrings - 'login' and 'default' - all my passwords are > in 'default' and I get asked for a password every time I start up Gnome > - so I thought I would do a bit of reading ... > > It appears that unfortunately the PAM Gnome-Keyring integration will > only unlock the 'login'

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > > Not quite. We always talk to the default keyring, whatever it happens > > to be labeled. Default keyring is a separate setting from the keyring > > label. > > > > Nowadays the default keyring is usually labeled 'login' so you get the > > PAM login integration I mentioned earlier. > >

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 13:43 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 18:36 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Evo should be storing everything in the key labelled 'default'. > > Not quite. We always talk to the default keyring, whatever it happens > to be labeled. Default keyring is a sep

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 18:36 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Evo should be storing everything in the key labelled 'default'. Not quite. We always talk to the default keyring, whatever it happens to be labeled. Default keyring is a separate setting from the keyring label. Nowadays the default keyring

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I am also using Fedora 16. All my mail accounts but one are IMAP. The > odd one out is POP. However I doubt that that is the problem since Evo > is not asking me for any of the account passwords, it's asking 1) for my > login password, and 2) for my keyring password. Perhaps your keyring has

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 10:19 -0200, Lailah wrote: > Patrick: > > My operative system is Fedora 16, may be they manage some > issues better than other systems. Now I'm having a little and strange > problem: in Gnome sometimes appears something saying that Gconf is not > running so it c

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-03-03 Thread Lailah
Patrick: My operative system is Fedora 16, may be they manage some issues better than other systems. Now I'm having a little and strange problem: in Gnome sometimes appears something saying that Gconf is not running so it can't start the Evolution configuration. But it only happens

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 08:13 -0500, Matt Needles wrote: > On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 05:57 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: > > > I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome > > > 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in G

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-29 Thread Matt Needles
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 05:57 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: > > I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome > > 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on > > "Send/Receiving" it asks to me for keyri

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-28 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: > I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome > 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on > "Send/Receiving" it asks to me for keyring password and then start > normally. When I start Evolution in KDE

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 00:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My understanding is that under Gnome you should only ever have to give > the keyring password, and if it's the same as the login pw then you > won't have to give anything, i.e. it Just Works. Since I never use the > Gnome desktop (espe

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote: > Patrick: > > I was doing some proofs in my system in which live > together > KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click > on > "Send/Receiving" it asks to me for keyring password and then start > normally.

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-26 Thread Lailah
Patrick: I was doing some proofs in my system in which live together KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. When I start Evolution in Gnome and click on "Send/Receiving" it asks to me for keyring password and then start normally. When I start Evolution in KDE and click on "Send/Receiving" it

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:47 -0600, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:41 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > As has been commented several times on this list over the years, none of > > KDE knows anything about the Gnome keyring. KDE has its own entirely > > separate keystore, the K

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:41 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > As has been commented several times on this list over the years, none of > KDE knows anything about the Gnome keyring. KDE has its own entirely > separate keystore, the KDE Wallet. > > The existence of two subsystems with essentially

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 11:37 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:38 +0100, Paulo Crespi wrote: > > I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on > > OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless) > > attempts to solve the keyring issue, I

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:38 +0100, Paulo Crespi wrote: > I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on > OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless) > attempts to solve the keyring issue, I eventually deleted gconf, > restarted evolution and set up my mail ac

Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-04 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 15:32 -0800, John Stile wrote: > Every time I start evolution I am prompted for passwords for accounts on > one of the IMAP servers. > My evolution is configured for multiple IMAP accounts on two different > servers. > At startup evolution hangs for a long time, but finally pr