RE: OOO to internet, still bad?

2003-03-07 Thread nbrown
weep). Cheers, Nick. > -Original Message- > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 March 2003 19:15 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet. Our > sales

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2003-03-06 Thread Darcy Adams
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? This mail loop was again a result of automatic replies/forwards to the internet being enabled. OOO responses alone would not have cause this loop. I can envision several wa

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2003-03-06 Thread Ed Crowley
OO to internet, still bad? Sure. I'm not absolutley convinced, but I will let this die. My users still want to use the OOO's even after I explain about more Spam and the annoyance/inconvenience to the customers, so I can't see them suddenly not using them because of a 1 in a

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2003-03-06 Thread Chris Scharff
Guess that depends on the business you are in. There's no magic argument which is going to shut down OOO for all businesses, nor (likely) should there be. On 3/6/03 8:20, "Allison M. Wittstock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. I'm not absolutley convinced, but I will let this die. > > My user

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2003-03-06 Thread Allison M. Wittstock
Sure. I'm not absolutley convinced, but I will let this die. My users still want to use the OOO's even after I explain about more Spam and the annoyance/inconvenience to the customers, so I can't see them suddenly not using them because of a 1 in a million chance of a social engineering/secur

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2003-03-06 Thread Chris Scharff
One can prove that OOO information has been used in social engineering hacks though, so doesn't that make the point moot? On 3/6/03 6:27, "Allison M. Wittstock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But in that case, it is well known that thousand and thousands of websites > have been hacked in the past,

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2003-03-06 Thread Robert Moir
> -Original Message- > From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 March 2003 12:28 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > But in that case, it is well known that thousand and > thousands of websites

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2003-03-06 Thread Allison M. Wittstock
tramps. > Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 05 March 2003 17:38 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > > > &

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2003-03-06 Thread Robert Moir
Cafe: A park Bench. > -Original Message- > From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 March 2003 17:38 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > > Ed, since you use this example often, can you pr

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2003-03-05 Thread Ed Crowley
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allison M. Wittstock Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? Ed, since you use this

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2003-03-05 Thread Ed Crowley
lance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick R. Sweeney Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? O

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2003-03-05 Thread Byron Kennedy
Now that's funny :) Thx for the feedback all! -Original Message- From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Speaking of mailbox limits...is there a limit to the mailbox limi

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2003-03-05 Thread Ben Schorr
y ideas ? > Exchange 5.5 SP4 > > > -Original Message- > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > Hey you could reverse the logic

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2003-03-05 Thread RBHATIA
ECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2003-03-05 Thread RBHATIA
ECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2003-03-05 Thread Chris Scharff
This mail loop was again a result of automatic replies/forwards to the internet being enabled. OOO responses alone would not have cause this loop. I can envision several ways in which an OOO loop alone could be created, all of them involved poorly written software and the potential of them actually

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2003-03-05 Thread Mellott, Bill
Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point about mail box limits cool thanks bill -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I was

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2003-03-05 Thread Darcy Adams
Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is

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2003-03-05 Thread Jim Helfer
ilbox! Tell >> your friends! >> >> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP >> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher >> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAI

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2003-03-05 Thread Patrick R. Sweeney
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: OOO to internet, still bad? > The more substantial risk IMHO is in Human Engineering exploits of your > business. I've certainly gotten more than enough information in OOA > responses to attempt such a t

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2003-03-05 Thread Chris Scharff
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP >> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher >> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy >> Sent: Tuesday,

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2003-03-05 Thread Allison M. Wittstock
gt; > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Kennedy > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems

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2003-03-05 Thread Chris Scharff
;t forward his message to another > resource it will go unanswered until at least the day of my return. (The > use of present tense here is to say this is my normal practice. I don't use > OOO at all at the moment since I don't have a job.) > > > > > -Patrick

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2003-03-04 Thread Siegfried Weber
ron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:23 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? > > > Humm... Seems like we could mitigate that risk with verbiage > in the acceptable use policy on what is acceptable content

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2003-03-04 Thread Patrick R. Sweeney
I don't use OOO at all at the moment since I don't have a job.) -Patrick R. Sweeney - Original Message - From: "Byron Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:23 PM Subj

RE: OOO to internet, still bad?

2003-03-04 Thread Byron Kennedy
gh someone would surely bring that point up. So far, SPAM sounds like the only real solid ground. :( byron -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad? The risk of a

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2003-03-04 Thread Ed Crowley
esday, March 04, 2003 5:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OOO to internet, still bad? I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any "best-practices" available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service e

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2003-03-04 Thread Ben Schorr
I strongly discourage it in our firm. Usually the most effective argument against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to spammers confirming that your address is legitimate. Throw OOO on somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly increas

OOO to internet, still bad?

2003-03-04 Thread Byron Kennedy
I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past. Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any "best-practices" available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in the past? How do others articula