RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
No you should let it go. It's a pretty good news letter. Check out the site and see what I mean, they basically talk about how screwed up some company policies are and they have good stories on them. Thus the name -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Beh

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
Oh here's an interesting story about Robin Wolaner who worked for Cnet and blocked access to f^uckedcompany.com. She was harassed and humiliated by the people that checked out that site that she actually quit her job http://www.internalmemos.com/memos/memodetails.php?memo_id=7 http://www.internalm

Re: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Chris Scharff
One could argue that the newsletter is similar to subscribing to the WSJ newsletter or a Motley Fool newsletter, since it provides insight into companies which may be in your industry or which the user might be invested. I browse the f-kedcompany.com website once a month at least to see what's goin

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Drew Nicholson
Do you tell your employees to not curse while talking on the phone? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Blocking a newsletter One could argue that the newsletter is similar to subscribing to the WSJ newsletter or a Motley Fool newsletter, since it provides insight into companies which may be in your industry or which the user might be invested. I browse the

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Martin Blackstone
I agree. The only thing that hurts them is the name. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Blocking a newsletter One could argue that the newsletter is similar to subscribing to

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread James Liddil
I agree but what about when the mail contains phrases like @ss-raped? Sure it is a fine line. Jim -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Do you tell

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
lf Of James Liddil Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter I agree but what about when the mail contains phrases like @ss-raped? Sure it is a fine line. Jim -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Andy David
Check with HR. Put the ball in their court. - Original Message - From: "James Liddil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter I agree but what abou

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Drew Nicholson
EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter I agree but what about when the mail contains phrases like @ss-raped? Sure it is a fine line. Jim -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Alexander Wall
sday, December 18, 2002 09:43 Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter If they forward that email, and someone gets offended, it's a different issue. But simply subscribing to it? Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
iddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:24 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Blocking a newsletter Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter I agree but what about when the mail contains phrases like @ss-raped? Sure it is a fine line. Jim -Ori

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Rachel Pickens
>From my point of view: If no one has asked you to monitor content and provided a written order, what are you doing browsing someone else' mail? Its bad form, and can get you fired. If you have been told to monitor then just enforce what is normally enforced. Don't ask the end user. They will talk

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
Forums.somethingawful.com come join us in FYAD..you'll love it there :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rachel Pickens Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread James Liddil
-Original Message- From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >From my point of view: If no one has asked you to monitor content and provided a written order, what are you do

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
THEIRS. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >From my point of view: If no one has asked you to monitor content and provided a written o

Re: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Alexander Wall
ember -- the email is on Company's equipment, software, etc. It is THEIRS. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >From my point of vi

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
Damn liberals keep screwing everything up -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alexander Wall Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Blocking a newsletter Well, that opens an entirely different

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Mellott, Bill
block it all... -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Damn liberals keep screwing everything up -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Andy David
Damn Hummerts keep posting. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Hummert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Damn liberals keep screwing ever

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Rachel Pickens
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Rachel: As an Exchange Administrator, he has the right to browse ANYONE's mail. That mail belongs to the Company, so there shouldn't be anything in there that an enduser would be afraid of

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
actions. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Alexander Wall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Blocking a newsletter Well, that opens an entirely different discussion. We drafted a consent form that every emp

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Depp, Dennis M.
27;s equipment, software, etc. It is THEIRS. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >From my point of view: If no one has asked you to mo

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
I hate those guys -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Blocking a newsletter Damn Hummerts keep posting. - Original Message - From

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Depp, Dennis M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter While I agree the mail belongs to the company and the company has the right to review anyone's email, has that resp

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Robert Moir
My gut reaction would be to take a hit of diet pepsi and ask myself why I felt so threatened by this newsletter. If i still felt this way after i finished the whole can, I'd probably go and ask them why, and if it were not for work purposes I'd ask them to consider unsubbing. But then by th

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Drew Nicholson
l) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Rachel: As an Exchange Administrator, he has the right to browse ANYONE's mail. That

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Roger Seielstad
--Original Message- > From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:48 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter > > > Rachel: As an Exchange Administrator, he has the right to > browse ANYONE'

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
8, 2002 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter that's not necessarily true. Unless he's been told to do it (which it appears he has), he doesn't have some sort of implicit right to do it. He has to be tasked with it. Drew Nicholson Technical Write

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Roger Seielstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:10 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter > > > My gut reaction would be to take a hit of diet pepsi and ask > myself why I felt so threatened by this newsletter. If i > still felt this way

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread William Lefkovics
18, 2002 3:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter While I agree the mail belongs to the company and the company has the right to review anyone's email, has that responsiblitiy been passed down simply because I am an Exchange Administrator? I don't think so.

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread William Lefkovics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >From my point of view: If no one has asked you to monitor content and provided a written order, what are you doing browsing someone else' mail? Its bad form,

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread William Lefkovics
] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter that's not necessarily true. Unless he's been told to do it (which it appears he has), he doesn't have some sort of implicit right to do it. He has to be tasked with it. Drew N

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Drew Nicholson
18, 2002 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter That's not true. As an Mail Administrator/Engineer, whatever you want to call yourself, there is implicit trust that you will not abuse your power to be able to view EVERYONE's email, due to the confidential

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
y, December 18, 2002 3:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter >>there is implicit trust That 'implicit trust' would have to be in writing in policy, or I am not touching it. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
We bounce it back to them and tell them they need managerial approval. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Um, no. Even though I am the

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Drew Nicholson
dwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter That's what I said in the beginning. You may the "rights" to do it, but that doesn't mean you should. I don't go anywhere that a ma

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards
sions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter I think you need to check the Dictionary.com site again. <> That implies not only the ability, but the sanction. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Origi

Re: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Chris Scharff
enduser would be afraid of someone else seeing. Remember -- the email is on Company's equipment, software, etc. It is THEIRS. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Sub

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread James Liddil
Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Like I said, in some companies they do, in others, they realize that the Mail Administrator has access to everything on the Network, and knows there has to be a certain amount of trust to go along with that title. As far as accessing other people&#

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Johansson Patrick
phone but graver since you have the control you do when managing the systems. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18. joulukuuta 2002 23:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Blocking a newsletter IANAL, but I do know that the legality of accessing mail

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Christopher Hummert
]] On Behalf Of James Liddil Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Gee I never thought that what I thought was a simply query would go this far. As much as I think the f^ckedcompnay.com and internalmemos.com are eye opening one still n

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Gee I never thought that what I thought was a simply query would go this far. As much as I think the f^ckedcompnay.com

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones
t: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Yea but the question is the word "f^uck" really something that violates a company policy? I know here that in that case it wouldn't be. But if it was used in a vi

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Jackson, Siobhan (ATG)
"Now come on Father, what would you say to a nice cup of tea?" -Original Message- From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter If you don't like it, then do l

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Ed Crowley
Of James Liddil Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Management knows I run scanmail with emanager and have the filter to catch profanity among other things. When a message meets the criteria it is archived and I look at the message

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Ed Crowley
2002 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter I disagree with you. As an Exchange Administrator, granted specific permissions, I have that ability. I for one, NEVER access users' mailboxes. Ever. Should there be such a need the manager of the person requesting a

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread Ed Crowley
ECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter Gee I never thought that what I thought was a simply query would go this far. As much as I think the f^ckedcompnay.com and internalmemos.com are eye opening one s

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-18 Thread William Lefkovics
AIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a newsletter While I agree the mail belongs to the company and the company has the right to review anyone's email, has that responsiblitiy been passed down simply because I am an Exchange

RE: Blocking a newsletter

2002-12-20 Thread Hunter, Lori
If it isn't in writing, I don't go there. If there's a lawsuit, I have that permission in writing. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blocking a news