After reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that your ISP should
manually do it and send you the screen cap.
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: re
HELO comes before the SMTP session. Fix the HELO so it is a public FQDN.
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ME2
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Campbell, Rob <
rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net> wrote:
> I don’t know if it will log a failed handshake attempt or not. It may
> not consider it SMTP traffic until it gets va
My experience with the Watchguard proxy is old, dating back to the
II/III days, and I hated it.
It fubared all sorts of things.
Turn it off, and stick a real gateway in there.
My 2 pennies' worth.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 15:30, Bill Songstad (WCUL)
wrote:
> Watchguard firewall. Good idea, I'l
I've wished I've had a box outside my perimeter so many times that I think this
excuse is a good one. I don't have a spare port on the firewall, but I can
drop a little hub on the line outside the firewall and build a little box with
one of our public ips on it. Then all your telnet are belong
[reply to multiple messages from the same sender]
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Bill Songstad (WCUL)
wrote:
> Does anybody know of a website/service that I can use to start an SMTP
> session remotely?
The problem is that most mass-market Internet feeds block TCP/25
outbound, as an anti-spam
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Ellis, John P. wrote:
> We had to install IMAP on the server to the application would work. It
> was the same when we had Ex55. The application wouldn't send mail due to
> the IMAP4 protocol not being installed!
As others have been saying, IMAP is a mailbox acce
I don't know if it will log a failed handshake attempt or not. It may not
consider it SMTP traffic until it gets valid HELO/EHLO.
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:33 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sub
Probably, but I really think the problem is at the firewall proxy.
Besides, I have the smtp logs from the server. Shouldn't they have all
that data?
Bill
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Adm
Watchguard firewall. Good idea, I'll check to see if I can turn up the SMTP
logging there.
Bill
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: remotely testing smtp
What are you usi
Can you get netmon, wireshark, or some other packet sniffer on your mail server?
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: remotely testing smtp
Yes, I can telnet
Yes, I can telnet without the error inside my firewall, but need to test
the connection as it comes through the smtp proxy on my watchguard
firewall.
Bill
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sounds more like the helo is being rejected - if that were the case, it
would never get to the RCPT TO: - and a blank or non-existent RCPT TO:
doesn't sound valid either.
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2
What are you using for a proxy? Can it be set to log the entire SMTP
conversation?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 15:13, Bill Songstad (WCUL)
wrote:
>
> Close, but it won’t let me put in invalid data. The error I’m trying to
> track down is:
>
> “Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname”
>
Can you log on to your mail server and telnet to localhost?
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: remotely testing smtp
Close, but it won't let me put in inval
Close, but it won't let me put in invalid data. The error I'm trying to
track down is:
"Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname"
I think it is coming from a blank or non-existent RCPT TO: field
My ISP is claiming their stand-in is getting these bounced back to them
when they rel
+1
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: remotely testing smtp
Ive used this.
http://www.zoneedit.com/smtp.html
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:adminis
Ive used this.
http://www.zoneedit.com/smtp.html
From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:administra...@waleague.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: remotely testing smtp
Does anybody know of a website/service that I can use to start an SMTP
session
Does anybody know of a website/service that I can use to start an SMTP
session remotely? My ISP is claiming certain responses from my mail
server and I would like to verify it. I tried telneting in from home
but my home ISP blocks traffic on port 25. I can't test from inside my
firewall because
It probably does!
John
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
Sent: 28 April 2009 15:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IMAP4 logging - Ex2k3
> There's certainly no mechanism in the protocol to allow one to send
> messages, but if messages are bei
> There's certainly no mechanism in the protocol to allow one to send
> messages, but if messages are being dropped into a mailbox folder using
> IMAP, then something else server side is processing them, that could
> explain the need for IMAP.
I like that explanation and it sure would also explain
TBH, I think that's more like it. The people (external) installing just
said we need IMAP, when asked why...Cos we do.!
I did ask for an explanation of how it works from the people who support
and the reply was some what vague...
Cheers
John
-Original Message-
From: Sobey, Richard A [mai
There's certainly no mechanism in the protocol to allow one to send messages,
but if messages are being dropped into a mailbox folder using IMAP, then
something else server side is processing them, that could explain the need for
IMAP.
Richard
-Original Message-
From: bounce-8507030-80
Its deffo IMAP in use.
I like the latter idea..
John
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
Sent: 28 April 2009 15:23
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IMAP4 logging - Ex2k3
> Its just come to light, that it's a know issue with the system that's
> i
> Its just come to light, that it's a know issue with the system that's in
> place. When its working too hard emails get missed/not sent.
> So, that's Exchange, SMTP gateway off the hook and the issue is outside
> my area of control i.enot my problem :-)
Good to hear.
BTW, they may be assumin
Its just come to light, that it's a know issue with the system that's in
place. When its working too hard emails get missed/not sent.
So, that's Exchange, SMTP gateway off the hook and the issue is outside
my area of control i.enot my problem :-)
Thanks for the assistance peeps.
John
-Or
We had to install IMAP on the server to the application would work. It
was the same when we had Ex55. The application wouldn't send mail due to
the IMAP4 protocol not being installed!
I asked the question if SMTP could be used and NO was the reply.
John
-Original Message-
From: Jason G
Someone will have had to rewrite the IMAP protocol to achieve that!
John - check out the SMTP logs on the UNIX box first to make sure it's actually
trying to send mail to your Exchange server.
Ignore IMAP.
-Original Message-
From: bounce-8506970-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mail
> Is it worth enabling logging for the IMAP4 protocol? If so, where does
> it log to ?
Probably not because I would be really really surprised if IMAP was being
used to send email.
~JasonG
~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftwar
Is it worth enabling logging for the IMAP4 protocol? If so, where does
it log to ?
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
Sent: 28 April 2009 14:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IMAP4 logging - Ex2k3
> The Exchange server receives the emails fro
> The Exchange server receives the emails from Unix.#
> I shall look at the option of tcpdump. I have requested logs from the
> unix system as well.
You could look at it as receiving, but Exchange is actually relaying mail
to the gateway from the Unix box. It's hopefully never even touching the
d
I'm glad to hear that :)
From: bounce-8506879-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mailto:bounce-8506879-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Miller
Bonnie L.
Sent: 28 April 2009 13:29
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Can't update addresses...
Without being 100% certain, my
Hi
The Exchange server receives the emails from Unix.#
I shall look at the option of tcpdump. I have requested logs from the
unix system as well.
Thanks - John
-Original Message-
From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
Sent: 28 April 2009 13:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
S
> We have a Unix service that sends emails via IMAP4 protocol, these
> emails contain orders that's are destined for external suppliers.
> Emails sent from Unix bounce off Ex2k3 and then over the SMTP gateway
> and then off to the internet.
>
> We have had some emails not getting as far as the SMT
Without being 100% certain, my boss was willing to wait until morning (now) to
do this, since everything else was up and running.
So, I did try just restarting the System Attendant on the 2007 server, and I
clicked all over Outlook (online mode) while it was restarting, and it didn't
bat an eye
We have a Unix service that sends emails via IMAP4 protocol, these
emails contain orders that's are destined for external suppliers.
Emails sent from Unix bounce off Ex2k3 and then over the SMTP gateway
and then off to the internet.
We have had some emails not getting as far as the SMTP gateway, w
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