RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
This is clearly where I have a lot of reading to do. To clarify, high availability isn't the absolute end-goal here, the end goal is to stay running even and a little manual intervention is acceptable (still better than recovering a box), but it would be great if it just sorted itself out.

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
Ah the man who makes the HAProxy VM! I did think about trying that, obviously the beta/lack of (official) support is a concern there, nothing personal you understand. I'll look at that TechEd session when I have a little time - I'm just keen to avoid more Windows boxes if they don't bring any

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Sobey, Richard A
Doesn't stay running and high availability mean approximately the same thing?! :) I'm a bit confused how you've got a CAS array but you're not currently using a NLB/HLB. Actually, it makes a bit more sense if you only have one CAS. Is that right? So, if you only LB 443 and 80, you have two

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
We have 1 CAS as we only have one server, but I was advised to create the CAS array object when we setup the 2010 box, and before we moved and mailboxes, as apparently it makes life simpler if you want to setup a real CAS array. This is where I thought we wanted to be load balancing MAPI but

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Steve Goodman
It's worth setting up a CAS array logical name and assigning it to the Mailbox Databases even if you have a single, combined roles server. It makes things easier down the line if you add HA in but don't want to move mailboxes between databases etc.. (eg another combined roles box, DAG, LB, CAS

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
And to balance RPC I guess I'm back where I started with the docs from loadbalancer.org stating you need to assign a static RPC port? Any downside in doing so? From: Steve Goodman [mailto:st...@stevieg.org] Sent: 02 February 2012 10:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Load Balancer vs.

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Steve Goodman
I don't think there is a particular downside. When the US wakes up I am sure Michael may have a different take, but assigning a static port avoids having to load balance a large number of TCP/IP ports for RPC. In essence to set static ports it's just a couple of registry entries on each server

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Sobey, Richard A
I'll say now that we don't use static ports. From: bounce-9482555-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9482555-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Steve Goodman Sent: 02 February 2012 11:18 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
Specific load balancer or just a shedload of mappings? From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 02 February 2012 11:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers? I'll say now that we don't use static ports. From:

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
My recommendation is to use RPC/HTTP (Outlook Anywhere) and avoid this issue entirely. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Steve Goodman [mailto:st...@stevieg.org] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
Even on the LAN? Don't you then run into issues where you need an LB that can handle SSL from all your clients rather than just the RPC/HTTP/ActiveSync/OWA ones? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 02 February 2012 11:45 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Load

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yep. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers? Even on the LAN?

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
So what is the pro of that approach over doing LB for RPC too? Keeping in mind I'm trying to avoid client disruption if/when we do this? I'd assumed, incorrectly probably, that using RPC over HTTP on the LAN isn't all that common? If nothing else it makes a big difference in the level and

RE: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Steve Goodman
I would say if you are doing LB for RPC, then it's worth sticking to the vendor's Exchange recommendations for the LB you choose - which are typically going to state using static ports for RPC. I know of organizations that are requiring RPC over HTTPS, but the majority I deal with use RPC

Re: Load Balancer vs. 2 more Exchange Servers?

2012-02-02 Thread Webster
Every Enterprise level customer I do Citrix work for uses RPC/HTTP for their Exchange stuff. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Michael Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com Reply-To: Admin

RE: Query re what would happen if?

2012-02-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
A will keep working, B won't. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Query re what would happen if? To all, We

Re: Query re what would happen if?

2012-02-02 Thread Graeme Carstairs
Great thanks, Just wanting confirmation thats what I though would happen. Graeme On 2 February 2012 16:24, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: “A” will keep working, “B” won’t. ** ** Regards, ** ** Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP

Re: Query re what would happen if?

2012-02-02 Thread Graeme Carstairs
Sorry Michael just to confirm if their are live database copies in B then they will become inactive and The inactives in A will become active. Thanks :) On 2 February 2012 16:24, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: “A” will keep working, “B” won’t. ** ** Regards,

RE: Query re what would happen if?

2012-02-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yep. (Note to readers: there ARE some corner cases where this isn't true. However, it is true for the configuration described below.) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday,

Exchange 2010 CAS Array software requirement

2012-02-02 Thread Shih, Henry
Does it require both the Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise edition and Exchange 2010 Enterprise edition? Thanks. Henry Shih System Administrator --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with

Re: Exchange 2010 CAS Array software requirement

2012-02-02 Thread Damien Solodow
No and no. :) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Shih, Henry [mailto:hms...@ci.livermore.ca.us] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 06:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Exchange 2010 CAS Array software requirement Does it