RE: Exchange 2010 migration, removing old public folders

2012-03-14 Thread Tobie Fysh
Sorry - replication was staying static, had already added the replication back in for the two Public Folders that have not got cleaned up by the MoveAllReplicas script. Example: '07 server 100 items '10 server 110 items Add an item to the 2010 PF and item count increases by 1 on

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Dave Wade
Why do you want to get the data off the Exchange server? Exchange now has fairly minimal requirements for i/o so you no longer need high performance storage. Since SP1 whilst the archives MUST be on AN Exchange server it does not need to be the same server that the primary database is on. Even

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Our biggest issue with Sunbelt is that they were totally wrong in the estimate of how much storage was required. What was supposed to handle 5 years filled in just over a year. -Paul -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:57 PM

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread John Cook
I have to ask, how was this estimate arrived at? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 09:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Data expands to fill the storage available -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Our biggest issue with Sunbelt is that they were totally wrong in the

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Stefan Jafs
I can't complain about their service. I have been archiving since April 2009 and total archived messages = 11.65 Million messages taking about 520Gb of data this is for about 250 users. Stefan On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: I have to ask, how was this

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Kennedy, Jim
No matter how big you build it, they will fill it. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Data expands to fill the storage available -Original

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Dave Wade
More typically, even after de-duplication and compression, Data expands to fill 110% of the storage available. Could this be because manufacturers size disks in normal GigaBytes (1000**3) but servers measure free storage as binary (1024**3) Gbytes? Dave Wade 0161 474 5456 -Original

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I don't remember all details, but basically average number of emails/day and length of time we wanted to keep them. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) I have

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Yep, I call it the fish tank principle around here. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Data expands to fill the storage available -Original

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Hi Dave, I'd like to get it off the Exchange server so that I can free up resources and essentially keep my email server fast while people are searching archives. Again, since speed is my concern far more so than storage, I'm figuring throwing twice the hardware at a problem will help :)

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
My current issue is that although the install was supposed to be done by a level 2 tech this morning, it was postponed because he forgot to mention last night that the Exchange 2010 server needed to be at SP2 rollup 1, which mine is not. My bigger issue is a concern about something else he

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread John Cook
Well your users attachment habits play a huge part in it. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Jason Benway
With Exchange archive mailboxes aren't they accessed online so the clients being always connected put an extra resource strain on the exchange server. Isn't cache mode one of the ways Microsoft got the server requirements so low on 2010? If I setup everyone with an archive mailbox won't I be

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
My bigger issue is a concern about something else he told me - that he has seen many times where updating to SP2 rollup 1 completely bombs the server and it has to be restored from backups. Yeah, sure... And MS has not seen it, but he has? Don't you think it would be pulled if it were

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Malarkey. Tell him he's fully of it. And that I said so. :-) But yes, I have a process/procedure of the proper way to prepare for installing service packs and update rollups to minimize ANY risk:

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Well, since I have very few users, everyone is online anyway. Not an issue for me... yet :) Thanks, Evan -Original Message- From: Jason Benway [mailto:benw...@jsjcorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) With

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Hmm... didn't think I was beating a dead horse... that's the first time I asked that question :) I was only asking the list to see if people had had any experience that was similar to this tech's. Thought it might be a prudent thing to do when someone tells you something that could be quite

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Thanks Michael... exactly what I needed! Evan -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Malarkey. Tell him he's fully of it. And that I said so. :-) But

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Adm
+1 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Evan Brastow ebras...@automatedemblem.com wrote: Hmm... didn't think I was beating a dead horse... that's the first time I asked that question :) I was only asking the list to see if people had had any experience that was similar to this tech's. Thought

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Cache mode has an impact, yes, but far less than the impact associated with RPC/HTTP vs. online mode. The primary reason for the reduction in I/O load is due to caching (i.e., loading indices into memory) and schema redesigns (i.e., changing the way the Exchange database is laid out on disk).

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Michael - I'll let you know how this process works at our next maintenance interval. I would have done it and UR1 already but can't find anyone that has put UR1 on a Cisco Unity 8.0 environment. -Paul -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent:

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Simon Butler
The only issue I have seen with Exchange 2010 Sp2 that means a server needs to be rebuilt is from people not reading the release notes and failing to check/change the policy on PowerShell execution policy. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh529928.aspx It is in the release notes - so

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Hmm... didn't think I was beating a dead horse... that's the first time I asked that question :) I was only asking the list to see if people had had any experience that was similar to this tech's. Thought it might be a prudent thing to do when someone tells you something that could be quite

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Jason Benway
Didn't know there was a difference between RPC/HTTP vs. online mode I thought it was cache vs non-cache for performance.huh So using Exchanges built in archive mailboxes won't 2x the server CPU/Memory requirements if the clients are outlook 2010 using rpc/http ? Thank you jb

Does the Safe Recipients List (with Forefront 2010) actually work?

2012-03-14 Thread Wright, Seth - wrightst
Okay, I'm coming up empty on this one, so I'd love to a) hear that I'm doing it wrong; b) know how other people are handling this, or c) get a clue-by-four to the right side of my sleep-deprived head. We're at Exchange 2010 SP1 RU6 with Forefront for Exchange 2010. We have edge transports

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Richard Stovall
Holy smokes. That is one hateful gotcha right there. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: The only issue I have seen with Exchange 2010 Sp2 that means a server needs to be rebuilt is from people not reading the release notes and failing to check/change the

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Hi Joseph, No problem at all, my friend. I wasn't offended... merely bewildered... lol Thanks, Evan -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Hmm...

RE: Anyone try Exchange on Win8 Server yet?

2012-03-14 Thread Steve Goodman
I think Paul Cunningham, of ExchangeServerPro.com installed it and got it running without much issues. Steve -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: 14 March 2012 20:12 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Anyone try Exchange on Win8 Server yet?

RE: Anyone try Exchange on Win8 Server yet?

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
It is not supported, by the way. I find it necessary to point that out. -Original Message- From: Steve Goodman [mailto:st...@stevieg.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Anyone try Exchange on Win8 Server yet? I think Paul Cunningham, of

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Actually, it ain’t that big a deal. A PITA, but not that bad. I’ve been called in to fix it a couple of times. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) Holy smokes. That is one hateful

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Nope. -Original Message- From: Jason Benway [mailto:benw...@jsjcorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Didn't know there was a difference between RPC/HTTP vs. online mode I thought it was cache vs non-cache for

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Richard Stovall
I guess it's a matter of degrees, but if I ran the install, it didn't work, and I subsequently couldn't use Exchange at all without doing a restore/recover, I'd freak out a little bit. (Note to self. Revisit Exchange backup and availability strategy...) On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Michael

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
It only gets challenging when local IT people have TRIED to fix it by doing a system restore and/or a DB recovery – then it becomes a bigger deal…. I try to let my clients know that if something breaks and they don’t know EXACTLY what to do – call me and ask. I won’t charge anything just for