Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-13 Thread John Cook
I concur on their less than ideal support but once set up the software is pretty much set and forget. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 02:39 PM To:

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Dave Wade
Why do you want to get the data off the Exchange server? Exchange now has fairly minimal requirements for i/o so you no longer need high performance storage. Since SP1 whilst the archives MUST be on AN Exchange server it does not need to be the same server that the primary database is on. Even

RE: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) I concur on their less than ideal support but once set up the software is pretty much set and forget. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras

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2012-03-14 Thread John Cook
I have to ask, how was this estimate arrived at? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 09:10 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again

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2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Data expands to fill the storage available -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Our biggest issue with Sunbelt is that they were totally wrong in the

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2012-03-14 Thread Stefan Jafs
rived at? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > - Original Message - > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 09:10 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Archiving

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2012-03-14 Thread Kennedy, Jim
No matter how big you build it, they will fill it. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:56 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Data expands to fill the storage available -Original

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2012-03-14 Thread Dave Wade
5456 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 14 March 2012 13:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:11 AM T

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2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I don't remember all details, but basically average number of emails/day and length of time we wanted to keep them. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) I

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2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Yep, I call it the fish tank principle around here. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Data expands to fill the storage available -Original

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2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
will help :) Thanks, Evan -Original Message- From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.w...@stockport.gov.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:27 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Why do you want to get the data off the Exchange server? Exchange now has fairly minimal requir

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2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
al Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:11 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Our biggest issue with Sunbelt is that they were totally wrong in the estimate of how much storage was required. What was suppos

Re: Archiving (again)

2012-03-14 Thread John Cook
: Archiving (again) I don't remember all details, but basically average number of emails/day and length of time we wanted to keep them. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (

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2012-03-14 Thread Jason Benway
hive mailbox won't I be back to ~2003-2007 server requirements because of all the "online" mailboxes? jb -Original Message- From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving

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2012-03-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> My bigger issue is a concern about something else he told me - that he has > "seen many times" where > updating to SP2 rollup 1 "completely bombs the server and it has to be > restored from backups." Yeah, sure... And MS has not seen it, but he has? Don't you think it would be pulled if it we

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2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
rvice-pack-2.aspx Regards, Michael B. -Original Message- From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) My current issue is that although the install was supposed to be done

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2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Well, since I have very few users, everyone is online anyway. Not an issue for me... yet :) Thanks, Evan -Original Message- From: Jason Benway [mailto:benw...@jsjcorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) With

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2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
could be quite disturbing to your business should it happen. Evan -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) > My bigger issue is a concern about some

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2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Thanks Michael... exactly what I needed! Evan -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Malarkey. Tell him he's fully of it. And that I said so. :-)

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2012-03-14 Thread Adm
4, 2012 11:25 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Archiving (again) > > > My bigger issue is a concern about something else he told me - that he > > has "seen many times" where updating to SP2 rollup 1 "completely bombs > the server and it has to

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2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
). -Original Message- From: Jason Benway [mailto:benw...@jsjcorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) With Exchange archive mailboxes aren't they accessed "online" so the clients being always connect

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2012-03-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Malarkey. Tell him he's fully of it. And that I said so. :-) But yes, I have a process/procedure of the proper way to prepare for installing service packs and update rollups to minimize

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2012-03-14 Thread Simon Butler
.com] Sent: 14 March 2012 16:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) > My bigger issue is a concern about something else he told me - that he has > "seen many times" where > updating to SP2 rollup 1 "completely bombs the server and it has to be >

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2012-03-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Hmm... didn't think I was beating a dead horse... that's the first time I >asked that question :) > >I was only asking the list to see if people had had any experience that was >similar to this tech's. >Thought it might be a prudent thing to do when someone tells you something >that could be qu

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2012-03-14 Thread Jason Benway
ank you jb -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Cache mode has an impact, yes, but far less than the impact associated with RPC/HTTP vs. online mode. The primary

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2012-03-14 Thread Richard Stovall
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2012-03-14 Thread Evan Brastow
Hi Joseph, No problem at all, my friend. I wasn't offended... merely bewildered... lol Thanks, Evan -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again)

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2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Actually, it ain’t that big a deal. A PITA, but not that bad. I’ve been called in to fix it a couple of times. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) Holy smokes. That is one hateful

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2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Nope. -Original Message- From: Jason Benway [mailto:benw...@jsjcorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Archiving (again) Didn't know there was a difference between RPC/HTTP vs. online mode I thought it was cache vs non-cach

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2012-03-14 Thread Richard Stovall
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2012-03-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
them asking. That does require developing a certain level of trust that I won’t take advantage of them either… From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) I guess it's a matter of degrees

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2012-03-15 Thread Richard Stovall
on’t charge anything just for them > asking. That does require developing a certain level of trust that I won’t > take advantage of them either… > > ** ** > > *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:22 PM > > *To

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2012-03-15 Thread Jonathan Link
advantage of them either… >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:22 PM >> >> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Archiving (again) >> >> ** ** >> &

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2012-03-15 Thread Michael B. Smith
ange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) Does MBS travel that far? :-) On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Richard Stovall mailto:rich...@gmail.com>> wrote: Makes sense. I don't have a consultant handy*, but I would definitely do some serious research before emarking on a recovery

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2012-03-15 Thread Michael B. Smith
Actually, I didn’t know that. I know that Sean is down that way, but for some reason I thought you were in the UK. :-P From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Archiving (again) Makes sense. I don't h

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2012-03-15 Thread James Rankin
ailto:rich...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:53 AM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Archiving (again) > > ** ** > > Makes sense. I don't have a consultant handy*, but I would definitely do > some serious rese

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2012-03-15 Thread Richard Stovall
u were in the UK. :-P > > ** ** > > *From:* Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:53 AM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Archiving (again) > > ** ** > > Makes sense. I don't have a consultant ha