Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
I'm curious, wouldn't mailbox limits with suitably low prohibit send thresholds
have prevented this problem?
Bill
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:17
This genius user :) sent them 1 at a time, then deleted his Sent Mail and
then Trash folders each time and we approximate he did this 250 times.
Marketing department ... shocking
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote:
No one mentioned Max Recipients yet? I
Going to give him a ring today.
I was too upset to talk to him yesterday.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Andrew Levicki and...@levicki.me.ukwrote:
Hi sms,
Now that the dust has hopefully settled and you (and we) are looking into
the various suggestions for preventing this in future, I
[mailto:bounce-8975292-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Michael
B. Smith
Sent: 17 June 2010 22:36
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Store brought down by a user today
I vote for the throwing them off the roof.
However, a good monitoring solution would've alerted you to what
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Store brought down by a user today
I'm curious, but what monitoring would alert you to all your whitespace getting
eaten during the course of a few hours? We've got physical space free
monitoring, but am not aware of proactive whitespace monitoring!
Cheers
Richard
From
Mailbox size limitations?
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Store brought down by a user today
No one mentioned Max Recipients yet? I limit emails to 50 recipients.
It helps, on top
://TheEssentialExchange.com
*From:* Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
*Sent:* Friday, June 18, 2010 9:11 AM
*To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Store brought down by a user today
I’m curious, but what monitoring would alert you to all your whitespace
getting eaten during
)
www.xlhealth.com
From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
I have to ask ... Squeaky Lobster???
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Michael B. Smith
mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
Nothing
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2006/06/15/427966.aspx
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
Yeh, I had someone trying to send a 1GB+ file though Outlook. A few years ago
the bug existed where Outlook wouldn't refuse to send a message that breached
limits until it had submitted the entire thing to the store. Anyway, this guy
was also in cached exchange mode, and the sheer amount of
Of Michael
B. Smith
Sent: 18 June 2010 12:56
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Store brought down by a user today
No. Once something has left a user's Deleted Items folder, it no longer
counts against their quota. But it's still in the database until (at the very
least) online maintenance
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Store brought down by a user today
I've often thought about the time someone discovers this workaround to get an
effectively unlimited mailbox size. I'd have to feed them to the pigs, of
course.
From: bounce-8976468-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
, Suite 100
Baltimore, MD 21201
410.625.2200 (main)
443.524.8573 (direct)
443-506.2400 (cell)
www.xlhealth.com
*From:* sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, June 18, 2010 9:24 AM
*To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Store brought down by a user today
I have
Probably, I'm sure he's rich LOL
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:46:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
From: sms...@gmail.com
To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
DID Andrew get the girl? :)
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jim
Sounds like a user with too much time on their hands.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:40 AM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:
This genius user :) sent them 1 at a time, then deleted his Sent Mail and
then Trash folders each time and we approximate he did this 250 times.
Marketing department ...
Mailbox Quotas, active monitoring and proper amount of disk capacity for
overhead is a good start.
Quota was 75/125/200
This happened in 2 hours. Documented 19GB white space then.
We will be implementing new storage in the next 6 weeks.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Robinson, Chuck chuck.robin...@emc.comwrote:
Mailbox Quotas, active monitoring and proper amount of disk capacity for
I vote for the throwing them off the roof.
However, a good monitoring solution would've alerted you to what is going on.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:12 PM
To:
Monitoring for sure before bad things happens, and take a look at
the good side of the story, you have no white space now on that DB (-:
Cheers,
Ocd
On 6/17/10, Robinson, Chuck chuck.robin...@emc.com wrote:
Mailbox Quotas, active monitoring and proper amount of disk capacity for
overhead is
The powers that be will need more incidents like this before they are
convinced to pay for MOM ... unfortunately.
Should the user have been able to grow their Deleted Items to that point
without problem?
Thx
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:
I vote
There are other monitoring applications that would not cost you anything.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM, sms adm sms...@gmail.com wrote:
The powers that be will need more incidents like this before they are
convinced to pay for MOM ... unfortunately.
Should the user have been able to grow
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
The powers that be will need more incidents like this before they are
convinced to pay for MOM ... unfortunately.
Should the user have been able to grow their Deleted Items to that point
without problem?
Thx
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Michael B
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 15:21, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
snip
(Note: I can no longer recommend ServersAlive, despite having used it for
OVER a decade, because it doesn’t support Server 2008, much less Server 2008
R2.)
Well that's not happy.
I was thinking about upgrading,
-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 15:21, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
snip
(Note: I can no longer recommend ServersAlive, despite
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 15:21, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
wrote:
snip
(Note: I can no longer recommend ServersAlive, despite having used it
for OVER a decade, because it doesn’t support Server 2008, much less
Server 2008
R2
and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 15
Subject: RE: Store brought down by a user today
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:45:07 +
For my clients that can't afford third party monitoring environments/tools,
I'm using PolyMon. It works very well, and does 95% of what ServersAlive did
for me. And it's free.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
If nothing else, a simple sAlive! setup to monitor disk space on data
drives would alert you based on thresholds you set.
Erik Goldoff
IT Consultant
Systems, Networks, Security
' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent:
-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Store brought down by a user today
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 15:21, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
snip
(Note: I can no longer recommend ServersAlive, despite having used it for
OVER a decade, because it doesnt support Server 2008, much less Server
No one mentioned Max Recipients yet? I limit emails to 50 recipients.
It helps, on top of the other ideas.
From: sms adm [mailto:sms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Store brought down by a user today
This ever happen to
Hi sms,
Now that the dust has hopefully settled and you (and we) are looking into
the various suggestions for preventing this in future, I just wondered if
you or someone at your organization has spoken to the user involved and
asked them why they did what they did and if they realized that it
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