RE: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-10 Thread Franki
: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable i think there was a problem with the download edition, I have downloaded it 3 times for 3 different computers, on each computer is was slooow and very unstable ( i was lucky to have a 1 day uptime ). I think we should take a vote to figure out what is wrong, Tell me

RE: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-10 Thread Franki
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable for server environment?? ...I would use a unix instead of linux..being that linux isnt really geared toward the server environment. BSD rulZ B Franki wrote: I have both the download edition and the powerpack

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-10 Thread nds
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor Cengija wrote: I'm having a really hard time with this new 8.1 distribution. It is very unstable and unpredictable (something I wouldn't expect from Mandrake Linux). Anyone experienced similar problems, say: - kicker

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-10 Thread nds
Ken Hawkins wrote: I posted a rant on this very subject about 1 month ago. My laptop continues to run just fine on 7.2, after a looonng day of attempting to install 8.1 I KNOW its not hardware because I haven't had a hiccup at all, and 7.2 autodetected all components, which 8.1 failed to

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-10 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Mark D'voo wrote: I tried also to increase linux awareness by giving away cd's, but my story is more funny. A couple of months ago some dumbass rep from microsoft came to talk to the computer club at my university about .NET. A bunch of people showed up because they were giving everyone a

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable OT

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 22:41:00 -0600 mycal62 [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: major snippage But let's be candid and and admit we are all waiting for a distro with everything that's just right, otherwise we would not upgrade. == Yes..., and I'd like

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable OT

2002-01-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
Michael Scottaline wrote: Yes..., and I'd like rainwater to be beer ;-) Mike If that happens in your area, please e-mail directions... grin --

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-09 Thread Ric Tibbetts
Ronald J. Hall wrote: Ron Marriage wrote: I agree, I order the power packs and always find them easy to install, no problem. I also feel better about myself. I don't support with code, so do so with dollars. Ron I enthusiastically agree here. For multiple reasons: 1. In

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-09 Thread Mark D'voo
On Thursday 10 January 2002 12:29 am, you wrote: Ronald J. Hall wrote: Ron Marriage wrote: I agree, I order the power packs and always find them easy to install, no problem. I also feel better about myself. I don't support with code, so do so with dollars. Ron I

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-09 Thread Jesus Arocho
Not necessarily true. I spent 5 and then an additional 20 on an order to Mandrake (with the honest intention of supporting the group) and had problems with the installation: a. several times the installer returned a message indicating problems with the install CD (probably just a

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-09 Thread Jesus Arocho
Great idea! I will follow the recommendation. On Wednesday 09 January 2002 12:51, you wrote: Ron Marriage wrote: I agree, I order the power packs and always find them easy to install, no problem. I also feel better about myself. I don't support with code, so do so with dollars.

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Davor Cengija
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ken Hawkins wrote: Maybe I missed the response, but is this a downloaded ISO image? If so, did you perform a checksum test? All it takes is one bad source file to ruin a good ISO. Very good point, Ken! Yes, this is a downloaded ISO image, and I'm not quite

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
Windows ME = Winblows More Errors My PII 300 Intel Chipset works pretty fine with MDK 8.1. But with some others computers (mainly new ones with Via chipset) I had some difficults and back to MDK 8.0. On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Ashley Reynolds wrote: Windows ME was truly Microsoft's *worst*

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Harold Hartley
On Monday 07 January 2002 10:37 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems, which is quite unusual since Mdk 7.2 worked just fine without any problem. Not necessarily PROBLEMS; just that

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Harold Hartley
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 10:20 am, you wrote: Windows ME = Winblows More Errors My PII 300 Intel Chipset works pretty fine with MDK 8.1. But with some others computers (mainly new ones with Via chipset) I had some difficults and back to MDK 8.0. I have some problems with MDK 8.1 and I

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Nick Thompson
Me too :-) In the MDK control centre- services. Deselect alsa on boot option. Reconfigure the card with sndconfig and reboot. Nick. Harold Hartley wrote: the sound mixer doesn't work properly until you do a modprobe of the sound card.. and I have been running a sound card thats been linux

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday 07 January 2002 12:52 pm, Davor Cengija wrote: As far as I can see, CPU and fan are working fine. Is there any hardware stress/testing tool available for Linux (or even for Windows)? The best, cpuburn, both windoze and Linux versions

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Davor Cengija
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor Cengija wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Ken Hawkins wrote: Maybe I missed the response, but is this a downloaded ISO image? If so, did you perform a checksum test? All it takes is one bad source file to ruin a good ISO. Very good point, Ken! Yes, this is a

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread mike
We are going nowhere. People are addicted to Windblows, they will experiment with Linux on a marginal box, and then, because it is so much better, move it to a more powerful box. If the marginal box part craps out, no powerful box for you... Microsloth wins. mg On Monday 07 January 2002

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Mark D'voo
i think there was a problem with the download edition, I have downloaded it 3 times for 3 different computers, on each computer is was slooow and very unstable ( i was lucky to have a 1 day uptime ). I think we should take a vote to figure out what is wrong, Tell me if 8.1 is giving you

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Michael Leone
On Tue, 2002-01-08 at 08:45, Mark D'voo wrote: i think there was a problem with the download edition, I have downloaded it 3 times for 3 different computers, on each computer is was slooow and very unstable ( i was lucky to have a 1 day uptime ). I think we should take a vote to figure

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Ron Marriage
Everyone is so hung up on free, that they spend time downloading an iso image from the internet, knowing that a single bit of data can cause the whole thing to go sour. Then they burn this image onto a CD, again where one little error makes the whole thing a mess. People, spend $5 and buy a

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread mike
Personally, and this is just me, I don't load a distro on my box unless I threw some coin (usually $60-$80) into the collection plate. On Tuesday 08 January 2002 22:25, Ron Marriage wrote: Everyone is so hung up on free, that they spend time downloading an iso image from the internet,

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Ron Marriage
I agree, I order the power packs and always find them easy to install, no problem. I also feel better about myself. I don't support with code, so do so with dollars. Ron mike wrote: Personally, and this is just me, I don't load a distro on my box unless I threw some coin (usually $60-$80)

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread mycal62
I posted earlier, and just wish to mention, that in all fairness, some people will have issues which will be unresolveable, despite buying a distro, having New hardware and having some experience with Linux. I have always paid for a boxed set including mandrake 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, and 8.1, as

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-08 Thread Ashley Reynolds
I am running Mandrake 8.1, the Download Edition, which I ordered from EverythingLInux (http://www.everythinglinux.com.au) on pressed CD's. It works outstandingly well. :) Kindest Regards, Ashley (aka ze0). |--| | Ashley Reynolds (aka

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread richard
Ken , the one thing that laptops do and furtively is to drop the clock speed to reduce power, I've a Toshiba sat 4000cds, and it lies about its clock speed. To increase battery life its very common to power down parts of the motherboard when the're not in use. my 2 penneth BG richard On Mon,

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Marc
Unstable?? Are you kidding? My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth without any prblem at all. So MDK 8.1 is very stable. marc On Monday 07 January 2002 06:59 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Davor Cengija
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check your hardware. This sounds suspiciously like a failing CPU or case fan. I've been running 8.1 for about two months now and it has been solid. Thanks for your reply (and thanks to Richard, as well). At first I thought it was

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Steven Spears
Currently running 8.1 on three desktops and one laptop. I've yet to have a problem with stability. One machine is a generic (everything built on board) pc that I use everday to work on Window machines (HEHE Using Linux to work on Windows), and it has never failed me. This machines runs for

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Ken Hawkins
Maybe I missed the response, but is this a downloaded ISO image? If so, did you perform a checksum test? All it takes is one bad source file to ruin a good ISO. Ken Davor Cengija wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check your hardware. This sounds suspiciously like a failing

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Davor Cengija
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Marc wrote: Unstable?? Are you kidding? Why would I? Have other problems on my mind... My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth without any prblem at all. So MDK 8.1 is very

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Ed Tharp
On Monday 07 January 2002 16:52, you wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Marc wrote: Unstable?? Are you kidding? Why would I? Have other problems on my mind... My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread kwan
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Davor Cengija wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check your hardware. This sounds suspiciously like a failing CPU or case fan. I've been running 8.1 for about two months now and it has been solid. Thanks for your reply (and thanks to Richard,

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Monday 07 January 2002 04:52 pm, you wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Marc wrote: Unstable?? Are you kidding? Why would I? Have other problems on my mind... My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread tester
Marc wrote: Unstable?? Are you kidding? My windows installation had all kinds of problem not recoqnicing hardware, conflicting irq etc etc. MDK 8.1 runs very smooth without any prblem at all. So MDK 8.1 is very stable. marc On Monday 07 January 2002 06:59 pm, you wrote:

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Gary A. Garibaldi
I installed Mandrake 8.1 in about 45 minutes since it became available and if I wouldn't have moved this pass week it would have been up for over 3 months with out a hitch. I can't say the same about WinME. I spent 12 hours yesterday with my son-inlaw getting his system reinstalled because of

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Ashley Reynolds
Windows ME was truly Microsoft's *worst* operating system. Kindest Regards, Ashley (aka ze0). |--| | Ashley Reynolds (aka ze0)[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.botepidemic.com Ph: +61 404 140 163 | |

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems, which is quite unusual since Mdk 7.2 worked just fine without any problem. Not necessarily PROBLEMS; just that Mdk 8.1 is more STRICT, and won't tolerate

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread mike
One of the virtues of Linux over Windblows was that the hardware requiremtns were less stringent, no? mg On Monday 07 January 2002 22:37, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 16:52, Davor Cengija wrote: So, concensus would be that I have some hardware related problems,

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 23:03, mike wrote: One of the virtues of Linux over Windblows was that the hardware requiremtns were less stringent, no? There's a difference between less stringent and marginal. mg On Monday 07 January 2002 22:37, Michael Leone wrote: On Mon, 2002-01-07 at

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread James Sparenberg
I can report two conditions I've seen 8.1 do these kinds of things. One like is said by Richard. The changing clock speeds which really isn't handled well by the linux kernel. According to an article I remember but can't find I disabled this feature in Bios on the laptop I was on and pf

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread tester
James Sparenberg wrote: I can report two conditions I've seen 8.1 do these kinds of things. One like is said by Richard. The changing clock speeds which really isn't handled well by the linux kernel. According to an article I remember but can't find I disabled this feature in Bios on the

Re: [expert] 8.1 - very unstable

2002-01-07 Thread Robert
Just a punt but the docs mention 2.4 kernels are more aggressive with the swap file. Did you use an existing partion sheme from a 2.2 based distro. You might want to perform a drive integrity test as well as the mem test. Just a guess as I said - any comments ? Rob Want to buy your Pack or