On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:12:17AM -0400, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:
- John Aldrich wrote:
-
- On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote:
-As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the
- bits of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used
- IRIX 64 bits
John Aldrich wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
What does "(ext2) is designed properly, so there's no need" mean?
No filesystem can be designed to eliminate fragmentation. If
you are constantly "churning" on your disk, especially if your
disk is 80% full, it *will* become
"Brash, Matthew" wrote:
Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system doesn't
get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea?
I wrote a few days ago about this: Ext2 filesystem does an excellent
job of limiting---not eliminating---fragmentation. A
"Brash, Matthew" wrote:
Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system doesn't
get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea?
Confirm.
The ext2 filesystem is, in the sense of the FAT-type filesystems fragmented a
small amount--and it remains at that
According to the guru's I know, Linux is smart and doesn't need human
interaction to defrag--that is if it is ever needed.
Thanks, Civileme, for the explanation of the M$ defrag.
Pj
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 05:34:04PM -0800, Civileme wrote:
- the defrag. Note that Microsoft does not offer a defragmenter for NTFS... It
- is supposedly a more efficient system but who knows since they don't pass out
- the specifications
NTFS is more efficient than FAT32, but then it was
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote:
As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the bits
of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used IRIX 64
bits system, I could creat 15GB single file.
IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though, correct? Linux
is still a
gs: Most people use
the default.
Hope that helps...
Mac
-Original Message-
From: Brash, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ex
: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
"Brash, Matthew" wrote:
Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system
doesn't
get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea?
Confirm.
The ext2 filesystem is, in the sense of the FAT-type filesystems
John Aldrich wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote:
As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the bits
of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used IRIX 64
bits system, I could creat 15GB single file.
IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though,
John Aldrich wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote:
As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the bits
of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used IRIX 64
bits system, I could creat 15GB single file.
IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though,
"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote:
WeiQuan Tian wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan
Necrotica wrote:
There isn't one - at least that I know of. Although the ext2 filesystem is not
totally completely immune from fragmentation it does much better than any FAT*
system.
-Chris
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote:
WeiQuan Tian wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan Tian
No, the Linux file system is
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under
Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan Tian
You have defrag on the Mdk 6.1 cd
Tommi
Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan Tian
You can find
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 06:50:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson, Jr. wrote:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need.
What does
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote:
What does "(ext2) is designed properly, so there's no need" mean?
No filesystem can be designed to eliminate fragmentation. If
you are constantly "churning" on your disk, especially if your
disk is 80% full, it *will* become fragged.
Of course, high
there is a program called 'defrag' which does what you want. There are
a couple of caveats, though.
A) Pretty much un-necesary w/ a decent filesystem like ext2 (what
about ReiserFS?)
B) You have to unmount the filesystem you want to defrag before
Not quite,what you are talking about is fsck - file system check,
this is analagous to scandisk on the windows platform, it has
abolutely nothing to do with fragmentation. It is run if the system
has crashed or is shut down incorrectly and is also run as
preventative measure every X number of
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan Tian
Idoes not exist. You just don't need it. Under Unix, file
Thanks, Harondel
Of course, you are correct.
I realized my mistake after I sent the post.
Bambi
"Harondel J. SIbble" wrote:
Not quite,what you are talking about is fsck - file system check,
this is analagous to scandisk on the windows platform, it has
abolutely nothing to do with
: Necrotica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 5:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
There isn't one - at least that I know of. Although the ext2
filesystem is not
totally completely immune from fragmentation it does much
better than
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
IIRC, it's built into linux, so it "defrags" automatically,
but you shouldn't need it. *nix is *much*
-Original Message-
From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 7:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK
WeiQuan Tian wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan Tian
There isn't one - at least that I know of. Although the ext2 filesystem is not
totally completely immune from fragmentation it does much better than any FAT*
system.
-Chris
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
Far as I know, it does it on its own at a determined number of boots.
You probably have seen it at one point or another during boot ...
sometimes it takes longer to boot... You will see it looking at each partition
and verifying everything and doing some maintenance on some files.
Linux takes
WeiQuan Tian wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version?
Thanks in advance,
Wei Quan Tian
No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need.
--
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote:
No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need.
The ext2 file system is designed very well so there is probably no need
to ever defrag, but a program does exist. The following location has
the source for it.
I can't tell you how well it works, but you can try this out:
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/!INDEX.html
Let me know what you think, k?
Mike
WeiQuan Tian wrote:
Dear all:
Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for
optimization of Hard
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