Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 12:12:17AM -0400, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: - John Aldrich wrote: - - On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: -As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the - bits of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used - IRIX 64 bits

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.
John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: What does "(ext2) is designed properly, so there's no need" mean? No filesystem can be designed to eliminate fragmentation. If you are constantly "churning" on your disk, especially if your disk is 80% full, it *will* become

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Norvell Spearman
"Brash, Matthew" wrote: Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system doesn't get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea? I wrote a few days ago about this: Ext2 filesystem does an excellent job of limiting---not eliminating---fragmentation. A

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Civileme
"Brash, Matthew" wrote: Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system doesn't get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea? Confirm. The ext2 filesystem is, in the sense of the FAT-type filesystems fragmented a small amount--and it remains at that

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Pj
According to the guru's I know, Linux is smart and doesn't need human interaction to defrag--that is if it is ever needed. Thanks, Civileme, for the explanation of the M$ defrag. Pj

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 05:34:04PM -0800, Civileme wrote: - the defrag. Note that Microsoft does not offer a defragmenter for NTFS... It - is supposedly a more efficient system but who knows since they don't pass out - the specifications NTFS is more efficient than FAT32, but then it was

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the bits of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used IRIX 64 bits system, I could creat 15GB single file. IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though, correct? Linux is still a

RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread McDonald, John GSM1 (SIMASD)
gs: Most people use the default. Hope that helps... Mac -Original Message- From: Brash, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:49 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ex

RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread McDonald, John GSM1 (SIMASD)
: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK "Brash, Matthew" wrote: Supposedly defragging is unnessecary in Linux. The Ext2 file system doesn't get fragmented or something. Can anyone confirm/trash this idea? Confirm. The ext2 filesystem is, in the sense of the FAT-type filesystems

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Civileme
John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the bits of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used IRIX 64 bits system, I could creat 15GB single file. IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though,

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: As to the zie of file, I heard about this formula: 2**n, n is the bits of your OS. SO in our case (32 bits), it's about 2.1GB. I used IRIX 64 bits system, I could creat 15GB single file. IRIX is a 64-bit operating system, though,

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-15 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: WeiQuan Tian wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-14 Thread Civileme
Necrotica wrote: There isn't one - at least that I know of. Although the ext2 filesystem is not totally completely immune from fragmentation it does much better than any FAT* system. -Chris On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: WeiQuan Tian wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian No, the Linux file system is

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-14 Thread Thompsson
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian You have defrag on the Mdk 6.1 cd Tommi

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-14 Thread Lee Willis
Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian You can find

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-14 Thread Pascal Grosse
On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 06:50:18PM -0500, Ron Johnson, Jr. wrote: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need. What does

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-14 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, you wrote: What does "(ext2) is designed properly, so there's no need" mean? No filesystem can be designed to eliminate fragmentation. If you are constantly "churning" on your disk, especially if your disk is 80% full, it *will* become fragged. Of course, high

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread Monte Milanuk
there is a program called 'defrag' which does what you want. There are a couple of caveats, though. A) Pretty much un-necesary w/ a decent filesystem like ext2 (what about ReiserFS?) B) You have to unmount the filesystem you want to defrag before

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread Harondel J. SIbble
Not quite,what you are talking about is fsck - file system check, this is analagous to scandisk on the windows platform, it has abolutely nothing to do with fragmentation. It is run if the system has crashed or is shut down incorrectly and is also run as preventative measure every X number of

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread Piero
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian Idoes not exist. You just don't need it. Under Unix, file

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread Fran Parker
Thanks, Harondel Of course, you are correct. I realized my mistake after I sent the post. Bambi "Harondel J. SIbble" wrote: Not quite,what you are talking about is fsck - file system check, this is analagous to scandisk on the windows platform, it has abolutely nothing to do with

RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread Eric Peters
: Necrotica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK There isn't one - at least that I know of. Although the ext2 filesystem is not totally completely immune from fragmentation it does much better than

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? IIRC, it's built into linux, so it "defrags" automatically, but you shouldn't need it. *nix is *much*

RE: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-13 Thread McDonald, John GSM1 (SIMASD)
-Original Message- From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK WeiQuan Tian wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under

[expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-12 Thread WeiQuan Tian
Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-12 Thread Necrotica
There isn't one - at least that I know of. Although the ext2 filesystem is not totally completely immune from fragmentation it does much better than any FAT* system. -Chris On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, you wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-12 Thread Fran Parker
Far as I know, it does it on its own at a determined number of boots. You probably have seen it at one point or another during boot ... sometimes it takes longer to boot... You will see it looking at each partition and verifying everything and doing some maintenance on some files. Linux takes

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-12 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
WeiQuan Tian wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard disk in Mandrake 6.0 or RPM in higher version? Thanks in advance, Wei Quan Tian No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need. --

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-12 Thread Norvell Spearman
"Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: No, the Linux file system is designed properly, so there's no need. The ext2 file system is designed very well so there is probably no need to ever defrag, but a program does exist. The following location has the source for it.

Re: [expert] Defrag counterpart in MDK

2000-06-12 Thread Michael Holt
I can't tell you how well it works, but you can try this out: http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/!INDEX.html Let me know what you think, k? Mike WeiQuan Tian wrote: Dear all: Could any body know there is any utility like Defrag under Windows for optimization of Hard