[expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-15 Thread Ken Archer
When I installed 7.0 I set it up to go directly to X using "kdm". On a single user machine, however, I prefer to use "guichooser" to choose my window manager. Question is how do I stop it from using kdm and go to a console? If I set it to go to init3 and then use startx, it will still go to kdm

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-16 Thread Matt Stegman
No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to change this. -Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Ken Archer wrote: > When I installed 7.0 I set it up to go directly to X using "kdm".

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Matt Stegman wrote: > No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to > change this. Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm. -Stephen-

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil
Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > Matt Stegman wrote: > > > No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to > > change this. > > Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm. > > -Stephen- The relationship is ind

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil
Ken Archer wrote: > When I installed 7.0 I set it up to go directly to X using "kdm". On a single > user machine, however, I prefer to use "guichooser" to choose my window manager. > Question is how do I stop it from using kdm and go to a console? If I set it to > go to init3 and then use start

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
"Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > Matt Stegman wrote: > > > No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to > > change this. > > Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm. No, it doesn't. -- "Brian, th

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Mike Corbeil wrote: > > Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > > > Matt Stegman wrote: > > > > > No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by > > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to > > > change this. > > > > Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kd

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil
Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: > "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: > > > > Matt Stegman wrote: > > > > > No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by > > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to > > > change this. > > > > Qué? In Mandrake, startx

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-17 Thread Mike Corbeil
Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > Mike Corbeil wrote: > > > > Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > > > > > Matt Stegman wrote: > > > > > > > No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by > > > > default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to > > > > change this. > >

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-18 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
kdm is a login manager. I'm not sure what you think a login manager is, though. kdm is not needed to manage logins, but that's the only thing it does. It provides a graphical front-end that allows people to log in with graphics on their screen rather than logging in in text mode. It is the KD

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-18 Thread Mike Corbeil
Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: > kdm is a login manager. > > I'm not sure what you think a login manager is, though. Well, I thought of the getty daemons, or mgetty. From what I vaguely recall reading (my background isn't sys admin, but instead development, so I haven't dealt with the admin sid

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-18 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
Mike Corbeil wrote: > Well, I thought of the getty daemons, or mgetty. From what I vaguely > recall reading (my background isn't sys admin, but instead development, so > I haven't dealt with the admin side of systems, except very little), mgetty > is a login manager kind of "utility". Correct >

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread John Aldrich
KDM/GDM/XDM only work when you're booting into GUI mode. They do NOT work when you boot to console mode. John

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil
Jean-Louis Debert wrote: > Mike Corbeil wrote: > [snipped] > Not the same thing. To use the graphical login, you _have to_ > be _booting_ in graphical mode, i.e. you have to configure > init to start directly in graphical mode. > In your current situation, if you get a text login, it's > becau

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil
John Aldrich wrote: > KDM/GDM/XDM only work when you're booting into GUI mode. > They do NOT work when you boot to console mode. > John I'll need to read up on the advantages of one mode over the other. I don't mind console mode, but always run startx when I want to work in a gui deskto

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Ken Archer
Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security, but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers. Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default is to bring up Kdm. Now I would rather go directly to a con

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Ken Archer
If you have a multi-user system, the login manager has some advantages because it allows you to select who has shutdown priveleges, etc. It also has an additional password screen for further protection. If you have a single-user system, I can't see any real advantage to a login manager. On a si

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Mike Corbeil
Ken Archer wrote: > Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security, > but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers. > Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default > is to bring up Kdm. Now I would r

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Brook humphrey
Mike Corbeil wrote: > > Ken Archer wrote: > > > Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security, > > but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers. > > Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default >

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Matt Stegman
/etc/inittab You're looking to change the runlevel (aka initlevel) that you boot into. I don't remember the syntax; but inittab is well commented. You should have no problem figuring it out. -Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Ken Archer wrote: > Now I would rather go dire

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Ken Archer
That only takes you directly to a console login. When you use startx from the console it takes you right back to kdm's login screen. I'm trying cut out that step. On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: > Mike Corbeil wrote: > edit the file > > /etc/inittab > > change the line that says > > id:5:in

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Brook humphrey
if it takes you back to kdm then there is something wrong. after you have logged in and typed startx it should drop you into x with no kdm. I done it plenty of times. Ken Archer wrote: > > That only takes you directly to a console login. When you use startx from the > console it takes you right

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
Ken Archer wrote: > > That only takes you directly to a console login. When you use startx from the > console it takes you right back to kdm's login screen. I'm trying cut out that > step. No, no, and no !!! If you are logged in in console mode (text mode) and you invoke startx, it does NOT in

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-19 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
Mike Corbeil wrote: > This is fine with me, though. The only condition I'ld see as important to use > *dm would be if it provided increased or enhanced security, but I don't know > enough about these, yet, to be able to say. > > Do *dm provide enhanced security, or just a fancier login interface

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-20 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
You must have something very odd in your ~/.xinitrc. Could you paste it for the group? As are you _sure_ it's brings up kdm and not KDE? You don't have a digital camera so could take a picture, do you? Ken Archer wrote: > > That only takes you directly to a console login. When you use star

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-20 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: > Xdm (generic), kdm (KDE) and gdm (gnome) all provide another level of security, > but my original question was about doing away with any of the login managers. > Once you have setup Mandrake to launch X and go directly to a gui, the default > is to bring up Kdm.

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-20 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: > However, if there's an enhanced security advantage using kdm or gdm or > xdm boot mode, then I would definitely switch. Otherwise, am in no > hurry to do so. > > Is there such an advantage booting with these as the boot mode? > AFAIK, there is no security adva

Re: [expert] Stop using kdm

2000-04-20 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: > That only takes you directly to a console login. When you use startx from the > console it takes you right back to kdm's login screen. I'm trying cut out that > step. > Hmm...never done that to me you've got a strange system! Did you select "high security"