Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-19 Thread daRcmaTTeR
Michael Holt wrote: Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: SCENARIO: Son: Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police? Father: Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. (Shamelessly ripped off from someone's signature who shall remain anonymous here unless he claims

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-19 Thread kwan
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, daRcmaTTeR wrote: Ok...I'll add my 2.572 cents in here. I would have to say that while I like commandline vi and I can also appreciate and use emacs, over all my favorite is XVim. that way I get my cake and eat it too. Speaking of Emacs/VI, I'm looking for TeX helpers

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-19 Thread civileme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, daRcmaTTeR wrote: Ok...I'll add my 2.572 cents in here. I would have to say that while I like commandline vi and I can also appreciate and use emacs, over all my favorite is XVim. that way I get my cake and eat it too. Speaking of Emacs/VI, I'm

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-19 Thread daRcmaTTeR
Deryk Barker wrote: Thus spake Michael Holt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... p.s. just to stay on topic, VI is the best!!! ;-p How can a falsehood be on topic? :-) clear evidence that ignorance is not bliss. ;) -- Mark I suppose I should have a pithy saying here... The brain reports all

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Ron Stodden
civileme wrote: Anyway, have a nice day (A wish from someone who has had 37 inches of snow dumped on him in less than 24 hours). Ah! I hope you were at home during all that. That's one of the big advantages of teleworking. -- Ron. [au] [lived and worked in Ottawa for 9 years] Want

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread kwan
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Tim Holmes wrote: [...] Why people get into heated debates about what editor to use, I don't know! I used to have a line saying Real Admins use ViM in my signature. I was almost kicked off a mailing list because of the ensuing riot that seemed to form once somebody

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread J. Craig Woods
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emacs cons Huge. Bigger than some OSes. Dodgy on some terminal combinations. Of course, these are open to debate too. :D (as he sharpens his sword, awaiting the oncoming war) Hey, you forgot one, the *most* important con for emacs: all to frequently, this

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Michael Holt
Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: SCENARIO: Son: Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police? Father: Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. (Shamelessly ripped off from someone's signature who shall remain anonymous here unless he claims ownership) Anyway, have a nice

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Michael Holt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... p.s. just to stay on topic, VI is the best!!! ;-p How can a falsehood be on topic? :-) -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to.

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 13:05 -0800, Michael Holt wrote: Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: SCENARIO: Son: Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police? Father: Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. (Shamelessly ripped off from someone's signature who shall remain

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Michael Holt
1:31pm... Deryk Barker ran for the door shrieking: Thus spake Michael Holt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... p.s. just to stay on topic, VI is the best!!! ;-p How can a falsehood be on topic? :-) hehe! I knew that would get an answer :-) -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Brian Schroeder
Just to continue the war theme... I don't like vi or emacs! To me, they are both unpleasant and cryptic. I have come from a VMS background and had written my own editor in VAXTPU in which I could do EVERYTHING - much in the same way emacs gurus claim to. I still miss it. But I have learnt vi

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Ken Thompson
On Monday 18 March 2002 02:05 pm, you wrote: Yesterday... civileme ran for the door shrieking: SCENARIO: Son: Daddy, why do we have to hide from the police? Father: Because we use emacs, son. They use vi. (Shamelessly ripped off from someone's signature who shall remain anonymous

Re: [expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-18 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Brian Schroeder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Just to continue the war theme... I don't like vi or emacs! To me, they are both unpleasant and cryptic. I have come from a VMS background and had written my own editor in VAXTPU in which I could do EVERYTHING - much in the same way emacs

[expert] Vi, emacs, and editors

2002-03-17 Thread civileme
Gee, folks, we have joe, which can act like most editors, jed (an emacs clone that runs fast and light), nedit (arguably the best for some apps), nano (pico, less the licensing problems), yudit for unicode fans, and of course emacs. I use whichever one comes to mind, and I have been known to