On 10/04/00 21:10, Bill Beauchemin [EMAIL PROTECTED] is reported
to have said:
Who cares if WINE is an emulator or not. I run Linux to get away from
those crappy Winblows apps that MicroSnot shoves at ya with all there
bugs. Why would I want to go backwards.
Sometimes there are apps that only
Mike Fieschko wrote:
[snip]
That is (was) WABI. Caldera were distributing WABI v2.2, and maybe
still are. I believe MS Windows 3.11 apps (some) were the last ones
supported.
Yes, you're right. WABI now rings a historical bell.
MS Win3.x apps were all I needed the emulator for, and
I think you mean WABI which is no longer being developed
Jeanette
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Corbeil" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Wine Is Not an Emulator
I thought WINE was what's been used
Umm guys (and gals)
just my 2 cents but this conversation is getting kind of pointless (especially
on a list like this)
WINE is a great product whatever it's called, but surely you can all discuss
this off list without subjecting the rest of us to the bandwidth bloat?
Thanks
Andrew
On Tue, 11
Lucky you about the only thing I have been able to get to run under wine is
Forte Free Agent 32bit
Jeanette
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From: "John Aldrich" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Wine Is Not an Emulator
At 04:02 PM 04/10/2000 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Cause there's a few DARN nice programs that are ONLY
available under Windoze -- Forte Agent is one that comes to
mind immediately. Although I haven't yet run Agent under
Wine, I would LOVE to be
B
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From: Jim Hodgers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Wine Is Not an Emulator
At 04:02 PM 04/10/2000 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Aldrich [EMAIL
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, you wrote:
LOL!! I'm sorry but I just can't imagine a real windblows program that's
stable. I've found four in six years that I consider reliable. I think
it's kind of a sad epitaph for a OS that coulda, whoulda, shoulda been
great, but failed miserably due to ego and
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote:
Lucky you about the only thing I have been able to get to run under wine is
Forte Free Agent 32bit
Haven't tried ityet. :-) That's one reason I keep my
Windows machine around. :-)
John
I thought WINE was what's been used on Solaris for several years, but may be
confusing it with another MS Windows emulator for Unix, or Solaris anyway.
mike
John Aldrich wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote:
Lucky you about the only thing I have been able to get to run under wine is
"Mike" == Mike Corbeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike I thought WINE was what's been used on Solaris for several
Mike years, but may be confusing it with another MS Windows
Mike emulator for Unix, or Solaris anyway.
[snip]
That is (was) WABI. Caldera were distributing WABI v2.2,
I concede - rather, I give up - who really cares?
Russ Johnson wrote:
Play on words or not, that's what the Wine team says it stands for.
To emulate, aren't you faking it? If they don't fake it, but actually have
the APIs, then it's not emulation, it's real. Hence, not emulation.
If it
Exactly. If you add a what is essentially a new library, would you call
that an emulator. No, its just a library of api functionality. Would you
call a c, or c++, or fortran compiler an emulator.
Tom
Russ Johnson wrote:
Play on words or not, that's what the Wine team says it stands for.
Michael Holt wrote:
I concede - rather, I give up - who really cares?
You're not a technician, are you? Terminology matters. If it's not
consistent, people make mistakes and things go boom (just ask the Jet
Propulsion Laboratory).
I understand the distinction between emulator and API.
Well is it an adaptor or an emulator?
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Tom Berkley mewed:
Exactly. If you add a what is essentially a new library, would you call
that an emulator. No, its just a library of api functionality. Would you
call a c, or c++, or fortran compiler an emulator.
Tom
Russ
Let's see if I got this right: Wine is neither an adapter or emulator,
but instead uses API's to allow Windows programs to run on Linux.
I think it's a great idea, but I have one question. Will Windows
software be just as unpredictable and crash-prone when run under Linux?
Pj
Not as badly. A lot of Windows apps crash when they call system services,
not from their own bugs.
--- Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's see if I got this right: Wine is neither an adapter or emulator,
but instead uses API's to allow Windows programs to run on Linux.
I think it's a great
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Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Wine Is Not an Emulator
Let's see if I got this right: Wine is neither an adapter or emulator,
but instead uses API's to allow Windows programs to run on Linux.
I think it's a great idea, but I
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, you wrote:
Let's see if I got this right: Wine is neither an adapter or emulator,
but instead uses API's to allow Windows programs to run on Linux.
I think it's a great idea, but I have one question. Will Windows
software be just as unpredictable and crash-prone when
In brief, yes. However, it won't take the OS (Linux) with it, in most
cases. Today, many crashes in windows forces a reboot. Not so under
wine.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Pj wrote:
Let's see if I got this right: Wine is neither an adapter or emulator,
but instead uses API's to allow Windows
Of course, but at least it won't take the entire machine with it.
Pj wrote:
Let's see if I got this right: Wine is neither an adapter or emulator,
but instead uses API's to allow Windows programs to run on Linux.
I think it's a great idea, but I have one question. Will Windows
software
Who cares if WINE is an emulator or not. I run Linux to get away from
those crappy Winblows apps that MicroSnot shoves at ya with all there
bugs. Why would I want to go backwards.
Bill Beauchemin
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, you wrote:
Who cares if WINE is an emulator or not. I run Linux to get away from
those crappy Winblows apps that MicroSnot shoves at ya with all there
bugs. Why would I want to go backwards.
'Cause there's a few DARN nice programs that are ONLY
available under Windoze
LOL!! I'm sorry but I just can't imagine a real windblows program that's
stable. I've found four in six years that I consider reliable. I think
it's kind of a sad epitaph for a OS that coulda, whoulda, shoulda been
great, but failed miserably due to ego and greed, imho.
Pj
John Aldrich wrote:
The reason that *anybody* would care ('cause I'd imagine that by the end
of
the thread a lot of people were wondering the same thing) is because the
original post was discussing the speed of execution.
An emulator is inherently slow; an API is not.
However, if you want to run no Windows
Play on words or not, that's what the Wine team says it stands for.
To emulate, aren't you faking it? If they don't fake it, but actually have
the APIs, then it's not emulation, it's real. Hence, not emulation.
If it was hardware, then I'd say it had to be emulation. Since we're talking
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