Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
Heh, The point wasn't taken though.
It's sorta silly to try to put the blame on Linux for regressing.
Yeah he can run command line Linux in 64 megs (even 32 after
installation). If he really wants to do this, he should have been
looking for one of the super light
Jose Luis Vazquez Gonzalez wrote:
When swapping starts is because not all programs fit on main memory (RAM)
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back again in the same problem...)
I think you're probably correct in this.
The thing is, if you have 64MB and you are running 128 MB in apps
simultaneously (all with the
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Monday 12 November 2001 17:13, you wrote:
Oh, OK.
Hmmm, sounds like a good open source project.
Hey, what about TOP ?
Nope
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|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Seak, Teng-Fong
|Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:56 AM
|To: Mandrake mailing-list
|Subject: Re: [expert] How to know in what memory a certain
|programme/data resides?
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|Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
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On Monday 12 November 2001 03:45, Seak, Teng-Fong wrote:
ltiu wrote:
My experience:
64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will
use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter
window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you
I don't know if what you say is true, and if it is, there's really
a regression in Linux performance. Before, it was possible to run Linux
in a 16MB machine. Kernel using less than 4MB and X less than 4MB too.
I can't imagine that kernel and X alone could use up to 64MB.
ltiu wrote:
My experience:
64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will
use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter
window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other programs,
like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple
ltiu wrote:
A couple of more things.
on the command line, type:
free
to see how much memory your Linux box uses.
Better yet, you can use a GUI application called:
xosview
Hope thses helped.
Nope, with those commands we can't see in what kind of memory a
certain programme is running.
Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
64MB?
Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;)
Yes, but that's for zbuffering or whatever 3D rendering used by 3D
chipsets. If you don't do 3D, 64 MB is a waste of money. But well, who
can resist Unreal :) ? And those 64MB are on
Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
Eh, I was being facetious, hence the smiley.
Sure I know you're facetious, but I'm afraid newbies would take it
too seriously and thus acquired wrong knowledge, so I gave more
explanations.
Fong
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You have a point. It depends on your WM too. 64MB mem usage was on my desktop
with KDE or GNOME. I have a laptop with 20MB RAM running kernel 2.2.19 and X
but I use ICEWM and it all fits within 20MB. KDE and GNOME are monsters. My
experience.
On Monday 12 November 2001 01:45, you wrote:
ltiu
Oh, OK.
Hmmm, sounds like a good open source project.
On Monday 12 November 2001 01:46, you wrote:
ltiu wrote:
A couple of more things.
on the command line, type:
free
to see how much memory your Linux box uses.
Better yet, you can use a GUI application called:
xosview
At 10:45 AM 11/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
ltiu wrote:
My experience:
64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will
use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter
window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other
programs,
Your milaege will vary. My desktop computer has 448MB RAM now and I do not
need or even have a swap partition anymore. In fact, I've never used up all
the RAM with whatever I'm doing.
On Monday 12 November 2001 08:19, you wrote:
At 10:45 AM 11/12/2001 +0100, you wrote:
ltiu wrote:
My
On Monday 12 November 2001 17:13, you wrote:
Oh, OK.
Hmmm, sounds like a good open source project.
Hey, what about TOP ?
Good hunting
Harm Bathoorn
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Heh, The point wasn't taken though.
It's sorta silly to try to put the blame on Linux for regressing.
Yeah he can run command line Linux in 64 megs (even 32 after
installation). If he really wants to do this, he should have been
looking for one of the super light distros, instead of LM8.1.
When swapping starts is because not all programs fit on main memory (RAM) so
they are going and comming back from seconday memory (disk) all the time, as
their turn to get executed comes and goes.
Process memory mapping WILL change WHILE you are looking at it, a bit like
trying to measure the
My experience:
64 MB is minimum for Linux running X (with nothing else). Meaning, it will
use up 64MB with kernel and X(KDE or GNOME) alone. If you use a lighter
window manager, maybe your 64MB will go further. If you start other programs,
like say Netscape or Koffice or a couple of bash
A couple of more things.
on the command line, type:
free
to see how much memory your Linux box uses.
Better yet, you can use a GUI application called:
xosview
Hope thses helped.
Seak, Teng-Fong wrote:
A question of curiosity: how to know in what memory (physical or
virtual) a
64MB?
Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;)
I
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You have a point.
On Sunday 11 November 2001 19:52, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:
64MB?
Isn't that the MINIMUM size for a video graphics board nowadays... ;)
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