[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 7:00:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [MDixon wrote:] > > Bush asked about his son, not about Senator Webb's feelings. > > Bush already knows what Webb wants. Who the h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably > > impossible and probably counter-indicated anyway. > > > So, you're saying that posting plans to murder > teachers and students

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 4:42:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Driving terrorist underground, unable to communicate openly and glorify > > their activities would make it harder for them to

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 4:21:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It was thoughtful of Bush to recognize Lance Corporal Webb's > service towards > > his father. Of course Webb could have said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 7:14:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Excellent! Well thought out and well said. Notice Newt did not > say "let me" > > make the new rules. He said we should all wo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 8:27:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> In a message dated 11/29/06 6:22:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: >> >> This is a serious problem that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > > > > > There are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > All You Need Is Love. > > > I'll save this one. The next time we have a major > attack on the homeland, I'll throw back in your face. > All you need is to love Osama?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: > Before we continue any further discussion please > define who you mean by the term "terrorists." > Those who deliberately murder innocent women and chidren at weddings and funerals?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
sparaig wrote: > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably > impossible and probably counter-indicated anyway. > So, you're saying that posting plans to murder teachers and students is a form of free speech.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: > We've seen what their "different set of rules" > is like with the piece of shit called the Patriot Act. > How many Dem congressional leaders voted for the USA Patriot Act?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: > I here housing is cheap in Russia. > They'll probably love you there. > So, you're saying that you don't like what Dixon said, so Dixon should go to Russia.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 8:27:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 6:22:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: > > This is a serious problem that will lead to a serious debate about >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 7:14:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Excellent! Well thought out and well said. Notice Newt did not say "let me" > make the new rules. He said we should all work together to agree on new rules > that we can live with. But then maybe so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 7:11:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They'd still find ways to do it, but they'd be so > secretive we wouldn't know what they're up to > without curtailing even *more* of our freedoms. > > So you want to make it easy for them and protect

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 6:22:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > This is a serious problem that will lead to a serious debate about > >> the first amendment, but I think that the national security threat of >> losing an America

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 7:00:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I have to back off this one, on the basis of a different version of the exchange from The Washington Post: "How's your boy?" Bush asked, referring to Webb's son, a Marine serving in Iraq. "I'd

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Excellent! Well thought out and well said. Notice Newt did not say "let me" > make the new rules. He said we should all work together to agree on new rules > that we can live with. But then maybe some think that losing an occa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 4:49:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Driving terrorist underground, unable to communicate openly > > and glorify their activities would make it harder for them > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 6:22:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a serious problem that will lead to a serious debate about > the first amendment, but I think that the national security threat of > losing an American city to a nuclear weapon, or losing sev

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 6:33:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: “different set of rules” may be needed to reduce the terrorists’ ability to > use the Internet to recruit and communicate. "We need to get ahead of the > curve before we actually lose a city, which I

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 4:21:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It was thoughtful of Bush to recognize Lance Corporal Webb's > service towards > > his father. Of course Webb could have said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 6:13:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But we are probably (if not already) > seeing a problem with ex-military who are mentally disturbed taking jobs > in law enforcement and being dangerous in such authority > > > "Probably"? Is that th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't thi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:49:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Driving terrorist underground, unable to communicate openly > and glorify their activities would make it harder for them > to recruit new terrorists and preach their message to > impressionable minds.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:58:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's the section of Gingrich's address that was about free speech, from his own Web site: NEWT GINGRICH: …The third thing I want to talk about very briefly is the genuine danger of terrorism in part

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 4:30:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The article was short so it won't tax anyone's attention span. > > > > > “different set of rules” may be needed to reduce the terrorists’ ability to > use the Interne

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: > Here's the section of Gingrich's address that > was about free speech, from his own Web site: > > > NEWT GINGRICH: …The third thing I want to talk about very briefly is > the genuine danger of terrorism in particular terrorists using > weapons of mass destruction and weapons o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:47:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and probably > counter- > indicated anyway. As long as they get to publish stuff freely, you at least > know what they > are thinkin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 4:25:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > But we are probably (if not already) > seeing a problem with ex-military who are mentally disturbed taking jobs > in law enforcement and being dangerous in such auth

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:30:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The article was short so it won't tax anyone's attention span. “different set of rules” may be needed to reduce the terrorists’ ability to use the Internet to recruit and communicate. "We need to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:42:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Driving terrorist underground, unable to communicate openly and glorify > their activities would make it harder for them to recruit new terrorists and > preach their message to impressionable minds.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:21:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was thoughtful of Bush to recognize Lance Corporal Webb's service towards > his father. Of course Webb could have said "He's doing fine" or "he wants > to come home" So "I want him to come home

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 4:25:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But we are probably (if not already) seeing a problem with ex-military who are mentally disturbed taking jobs in law enforcement and being dangerous in such authority "Probably"? Is that the best y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
Here's the section of Gingrich's address that was about free speech, from his own Web site: NEWT GINGRICH: …The third thing I want to talk about very briefly is the genuine danger of terrorism in particular terrorists using weapons of mass destruction and weapons of mass murder, nuclear and bi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > >> > >> In a message dated 11/29/06 1:29:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, > >> sparaig@ writes: > >> > >> Curtailing terrorist website

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:46:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and > probably counter- > > indicated anyway. As long as they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:29:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and probably > counter- > indicated anyway. As long as they ge

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Free speech zones, never heard of that. That's where protesters are cordoned off in an area where they can't be seen or heard by the people they're protesting *to*.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is not a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 3:57 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:48 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: > >> > >>> If I follow what you've been saying over the year

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing some of us are trying to do here is *not* > to convince TMers to "jump ship." What we're trying > to do is point out that the TM stance of being "the > best" is considered by the greater spiritual community > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:46:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and > probably counter- > > indicated anyway. As long as they g

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 12:49:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > From "The Hill": > > > > ...At a private recept

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Alright. So you're saying that Vaj, who can't furnish any > > direct reference to the studies he claims exists, is being > > more clear than moi, who does fur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Leaves me speechless...

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: > Follow-up on the Great Peace Sign Flap from today's NYTimes: > > November 29, 2006 > Pro-Peace Symbol Forces Win Battle in Colorado Town > By KIRK JOHNSON > > DENVER, Nov. 28 — Peace is fighting back in Pagosa Springs. > > Last week, a couple were threatened with fines of $25 a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> In a message dated 11/29/06 1:29:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and >> probably >> counter- >> indicat

[FairfieldLife] 'Bush + al-Maliki = No Win Situation?'

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Gimbel
This meeting between these two; Appears to be no win for either side. And both appear terrified to meet with one another R.g. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:41:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Did you not read that I mentioned the "free speech zones"? That is a > particularly offensive curbing of free speech! > > Did you not read the article? Newt wants to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > > > either blind, stu

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 12:49:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > From "The Hill": > > ...At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected > lawmakers shortly after the elec

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:46:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and > probably counter- > >> indicated anyway. As long as they get to publish stuff freely, you >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > > either blind, stupid or insane. > > Or, you are so much one yourself that you cannot >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:46:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and > probably counter- > > indicated anyway. As long as they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 3:12:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dunno. Haven't read about the issue. Was just pointing out that censorship of free speech might be counterproductive, even if it is "terrorist free speech." I don't know either that's why I asked

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is not a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 3:57 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:48 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: If I follow what you've been saying over the years, you are simply saying both the Hindu tantric meditation systems and the Buddhi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread llundrub
I've had enough of this name calling. It's sickening. Get the fuck over yourselves. - Original Message - From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 1:41:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you not read that I mentioned the "free speech zones"? That is a particularly offensive curbing of free speech! Did you not read the article? Newt wants to curb speech on the Internet. Now he sa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 1:46:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and probably counter- > indicated anyway. As long as they get to publish stuff freely, you at least know what they > are thinking (or a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It doesn't really matter much whether someone is a TB of TM, or not. > > If they practice TM and find it effective, why try to get them to > > try something else? > > NO ONE is trying to get anyone to do something e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > [...] > > Alright. So you're saying that Vaj, who can't furnish any direct reference > > to the studies > he > > claims exists, is being more clear than moi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is not a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:48 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > If I follow what you've been saying over the years, you are simply > > saying both the Hindu > > tantric meditation systems and the Buddhist ones both share > > tech

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/29/06 1:29:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and probably > counter- > indicated anyway. As long as they get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 1:29:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Curtailing terrorist websites completely is probably impossible and probably counter- indicated anyway. As long as they get to publish stuff freely, you at least know what they are thinking (or at le

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > > > either bli

[FairfieldLife] Security Freeze

2006-11-29 Thread suziezuzie
Has anyone here placed a security freeze on thier credit reports to prevent identity theft? If so, has it worked for you? Has it created any inconviences such as having to reverse the freeze when purchasing anything requiring credit reports such as insurance, cell phones, hospital care, etc.? H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You prefer the way it's been done for less than 50 years, he prefers the one > that's been done experientially for thousand and thousands of years. One is tried and true > and has produced innumerable enlightned beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > > either blind, stupid or insane. > > Or, you are so much one yourself that you cannot >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj is not a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:48 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: If I follow what you've been saying over the years, you are simply saying both the Hindu tantric meditation systems and the Buddhist ones both share techniques to perfect the fourth pranayama--a subtle pranayama important for deep meditation a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 wrote: > > > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > > either blind, stupid or insane. > > Or, you are so much one yourself that you cannot >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, then again, if TM was a holistic path not everybody would have left > it. Quick. What is Yoga, according to Patanjali? What is Yoga, according to you?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is not a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 12:30 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> I don't think he say

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, then again, if TM was a holistic path not everybody would have left > it. > Rather than assume that people have left TM because it is an incomplete or flawed path, I think that possibly people mistook Mahari

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > [...] > > > >>> So where is the research on the fourth done by "serious scientists?' > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Some old re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Indeed. And before I became a teacher I read the Shrimad Bhagavatam (the version sold by Motilal Press) and was advised by the teacher who loaned it to me to be quiet as the TMO didn't like us reading stuff like this. After TTC I also read the S

[FairfieldLife] Vaj is not a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 29, 2006, at 12:30 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > >> > >> I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > >> of the teaching are very limited

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > either blind, stupid or insane. Or, you are so much one yourself that you cannot see the phenomenon you are an integral part of. If you honestly, truly b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > > > of the teaching a

Re: [FairfieldLife] George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 12:49:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >From "The Hill": ...At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > > > of the teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" > wrote: > > > > > > Vaj is a fraud. > > > > > > He has no knowledge whatsoever about what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 11/28/06 8:54:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > noozguru@ writes: > > > > Yes we don't need to reexamine freedom of speech an

[FairfieldLife] Ancient computer surprises scientists

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
November 29, 2006 An Ancient Computer Surprises Scientists By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD A computer in antiquity would seem to be an anachronism, like Athena ordering takeout on her cellphone. But a century ago, pieces of a strange mechanism with bronze gears and dials were recovered from an ancient

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/06 11:56:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Freedom of speech is not an absolute freedom. You can't yell "fire" in a > >> crowded theater and you can't slander people. What specifically has Newt >> propose

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread Vaj
On Nov 29, 2006, at 2:09 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] So where is the research on the fourth done by "serious scientists?' Some old research and more modern research on tummo (inner heat) meditation which mastery of requires

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
Indeed. And before I became a teacher I read the Shrimad Bhagavatam (the version sold by Motilal Press) and was advised by the teacher who loaned it to me to be quiet as the TMO didn't like us reading stuff like this. After TTC I also read the Shiva Puranas and some of the Vishnu Puranas. W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 11/28/06 8:54:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Yes we don't need to reexamine freedom of speech and we need to take > back what curbs have put on freedom speech. Anyone know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > > > of the teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > > > of the teaching

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread llundrub
Well, then again, if TM was a holistic path not everybody would have left it. - Original Message - From: "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > So where is the research on the fourth done by "serious scientists?' > > > > Some old research and more modern research on tummo (inner heat) > meditation which mastery of requires inner perfection of the fourth > p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic flying video

2006-11-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 28, 2006, at 10:44 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Guffaw. TM researchers have never mentioned 'the fourth pranayama" > > in any research or > > discussion that I have heard. Of course, I notice you neatly snipt > > t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gingrich wants to curb free speech

2006-11-29 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/29/06 11:56:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Freedom of speech is not an absolute freedom. You can't yell "fire" in a > crowded theater and you can't slander people. What specifically has Newt > proposed as far as curbing freedom of speech? Is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread kaladevi93
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > > of the teaching are very limited and limiting. > > He says it's a fraud because it clai

[FairfieldLife] George Bush: Graciousness and compassion personified

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
>From "The Hill": ...At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing. Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > It is one thing to dive into spiritual knowledge deeply, learning > > all of the component parts and their relationship to one another. > > However it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > of the teaching are very limited and limiting. He says it's a fraud because it claims *not* to be limited and limiting. However, he obviously doesn't under

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud

2006-11-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" wrote: > > > > I don't think he says TM is a fraud, just that some aspects > > of the teaching are very limited and limiting. > > I agree with Llundrub here. I think t

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