[FairfieldLife] Devotion

2008-06-29 Thread bob_brigante
MMY commentary on BG, Ch 8, v22 Krishna: That Transcendent Purusha, O Partha, in whom all beings abide and by whom all this is pervaded, is attainable only by unswerving devotion. MMY: ... Devotion is a link between our manifested and unmanifested transcendental form. Devotion to activity brin

[FairfieldLife] Gut worms not all bad

2008-06-29 Thread bob_brigante
"We're part of our environment; we're not separate from it." It's a simple observation with profound implications that are changing how scientists view the human organism. The dawning realization is this: You are not just your genetic self. You are a community of interacting organisms. Your ecosy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
"authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is my 50th. Ta-ta till next Friday. (I'd say, > "Don't talk about me while I'm gone," but that > would be silly.) > That is pretty funny.

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK folks, what does this "level of silence" thing mean? I have had instances in my life where I wanted, or needed a certain outcome. Nothing outrageous, but important to me. Instead of engaging in a lot of action on the so called "outer" level o

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread aztjbailey
> Eckart Tolle has a nice way of telling it... > He uses the term 'Presence' to describe a person's 'silence'... > The amount of 'silence' 'stillness' 'no thoughts' 'vertical expansion' > all of the things which a person developes through meditative > practices, sports, any exploration of one's c

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2008-06-29 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Fairfield Events/KD poster 2008 color.pdf Uploaded by : rick_archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description : Krishna Das July 31st at Sondheim.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Spiritually Hot in Fairfield, Krishna Das

2008-06-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Another summer treat - Krishna Das is returning to Fairfield on July 31 at the Sondheim.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suspect Ruth recognizes she didn't come off very > well in this discussion and is projecting her own > embarrassment onto me, attacking my integrity in a > post that itself showed a serious lack of integrity, > al

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity > > wrote: > > > You could be interesting Judy. You meditate and do the > > > siddhis with

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" > wrote: [...] > > I don't know if this is an average, though when charities call you > > for money, you can ask them what percent of donations go for > > admin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-06-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > > > Om, how many of these people are meditators? Regularly >practicing > > meditators? 2x a day meditators? How many co-ordinate their time >of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:11 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > >>> And none of them back up Lawson's ludicrous claim. > >> > >> It wasn't Lawson's claim, it was that of his scho

[FairfieldLife] The Final Teaching Of Krishna

2008-06-29 Thread Mahesh Subrahmanyam
>From the Uddhava Gita: Neither bondage nor liberation is real. Subject to the gunas- the three bondaries of nature, The mind thinks of itself now as bond, now as free. But since these boundaries are themselves illusory I tell you, there is neither bondage nor liberation. Krishna

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread R.G.
(snip) > >> In Maharishi Vedic Science "samadhi" is equated with silence, where > >> the etymological derivation would be "sama", which means silence and > >> "dhi" which means mind. So therefore a person in constant sama- dhi is > >> operating from a level of constant silence, or so it's belie

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > In Maharishi Vedic Science "samadhi" is equated with silence, where > > the etymological derivation would be "sama", which means silence and > > "dhi" which

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Vaj
On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:57 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In Maharishi Vedic Science "samadhi" is equated with silence, where the etymological derivation would be "sama", which means silence and "dhi" which means mind. So therefore a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:36 PM, authfriend wrote: And now I am watching you try to manipulate Sal. You said you don't care about Guru Dev's fame, but you sure seem to care about Sal's curiosity, as if that curiosity is something inappropriate. "Manipulate Sal"?? To do what? Sal isn't *curiou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
That's 50 isn't it? Thank god. Judy go. Ruth, please stay. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > What's crucial

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Vaj
On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:36 PM, geezerfreak wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts straight, think clearly about issues, and debate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts > > > stra

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In Maharishi Vedic Science "samadhi" is equated with silence, where > the etymological derivation would be "sama", which means silence and > "dhi" which means mind. So therefore a person in constant sama-dhi is > operati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Om, how many of these people are meditators? Regularly practicing > meditators? 2x a day meditators? How many co-ordinate their time of > practice to be in sync with the ME of the dome programs? Like, truly >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts > > > straight, think

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Vaj
On Jun 29, 2008, at 9:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:20 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: A Saints life is on the level of silence. OK folk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts > > straight, think clearly about issues, and debate with > > integrity. > > Yes, you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts > > straight, think clearly about issues, and debate with > > integrity. > > Yes, you have sai

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:20 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > >> > >> A Saints life is on the level of silence. > > > > OK folks, what does this "level of

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:20 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A Saints life is on the level of silence. OK folks, what does this "level of silence" thing mean? Nader operates from the level of silence. Ralph Nader? If onl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-06-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, how many of these people are meditators? Regularly practicing meditators? 2x a day meditators? How many co-ordinate their time of practice to be in sync with the ME of the dome programs? Like, truly practice their, TM? How many actually write here who are just old secular meditation pra

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A Saints life is on the level of silence. OK folks, what does this "level of silence" thing mean? Nader operates from the level of silence. New Morning talks about the level of silence. I read an autobiography

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Reflections on a Man of Peace

2008-06-29 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Peter wrote: > > > Bevan told us we should no longer think or talk about the funeral. > > What will happen if we do? Will we turn into pumpkins? :) > > > This purusha is in violation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-06-29 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As usual Judy shot her wad in less than 48 hours. > > Anyone else notice how much more enjoyable, interesting and entertaining this site is after > Judy and Nabby post out? I say that not because I disagree with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Reflections on a Man of Peace

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bevan told us we should no longer think or talk about the funeral. This > purusha is in violation of natural law. tsk, tsk > > Is that true Peter? WowI bet this was a directive from the "clan". The funeral is ev

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] A Saints Life is on the Level of Silence Re: Guru Dev was the most important

2008-06-29 Thread new . morning
A Saints life is on the level of silence. Its not about accomplishment in any material sense. Even "spiritual accomplishment" is a bit of a misfit of words. He was silence/wholness. He functioned in silence/wholneness. He was not anything about accomplishments. Its like asking, "how much stuff did

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > > > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
As usual Judy shot her wad in less than 48 hours. Anyone else notice how much more enjoyable, interesting and entertaining this site is after Judy and Nabby post out? I say that not because I disagree with them about most things. I enjoy reading many posts by people I completely disagree with,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:50 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > > > As the palace intrique goes, you wonder where Bevan's allegiences > > lie. I peg him as the most true blue of the TB'ers and therefore I > > would not

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > Someone said that "40% of the money is 'misappropirated'." If that > > is tru

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > Someone said that "40% of the money is 'misappropirated'." If > tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > wrote: > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2008-06-29 Thread Bhairitu
The daily gabs stats: Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 28 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 5 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 396 messages as of (UTC) Mon Jun 30 00:11:30 2008 Member Posts "authfrien

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts > straight, think clearly about issues, and debate with > integrity. Yes, you have said similar things before. I no longer believe you. Your acts do not mat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:50 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: As the palace intrique goes, you wonder where Bevan's allegiences lie. I peg him as the most true blue of the TB'ers and therefore I would not trust him to put the organiziation's welfare ahead of what he felt M might have wanted for his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Reflections on a Man of Peace

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Peter wrote: Bevan told us we should no longer think or talk about the funeral. What will happen if we do? Will we turn into pumpkins? :) This purusha is in violation of natural law. tsk, tsk Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: oops. I had incorrectly attributed this remark to Rick: > So what happens at some point if it is determined that funds have > been misappropiated. That is what I would imagine to be the ticking > time bomb

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:22 PM, authfriend wrote: Well, the claim was, I believe, that he was "the most important Hindu leader of the first half of the 20th C." And so far, I've seen nothing at all to back that up. What kind of evidence *would* you accept, that one would be likely to be able to f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
"shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip Barry got involved in a cult in which he will swear to you to this day that he actually witnessed the charismatic leader LEVITATE! Lurk: Just out of curiosity Shemp. Do you belive that for a body, (as in human body) levitation defies the laws o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Vaj
On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:11 PM, authfriend wrote: And none of them back up Lawson's ludicrous claim. It wasn't Lawson's claim, it was that of his scholar friend, who is a professor of East Asian Studies at the University of Arizona. Well I thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the blowback here is against MMY's primary way of > describing SBS as being like the pope of hinduism. Actually the blowback was against the description by a professor of East Asian studies of Guru Dev as "the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
As the palace intrique goes, you wonder where Bevan's allegiences lie. I peg him as the most true blue of the TB'ers and therefore I would not trust him to put the organiziation's welfare ahead of what he felt M might have wanted for his Indian clan. In other words Bevan may have a tighter bo

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Uo with L.B's book on Guru Devs speachers as reported?

2008-06-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of new.morning Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Uo with L.B's book on Guru Devs speachers as reported? >What is the difference in the source material

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > I stand by my claim: the average charity spends 50% of its donations for > "administrative > overhead" as your chart clearly shows. > > > > Lawson > 90%. L

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Reflections on a Man of Peace

2008-06-29 Thread Peter
Bevan told us we should no longer think or talk about the funeral. This purusha is in violation of natural law. tsk, tsk --- On Sun, 6/29/08, Dick Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Dick Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Reflections on a Man of Peace > To: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I said, I could care less whether he was important. > What's crucial to me is for folks to get their facts > straight, think clearly about issues, and debate with > integrity. You left out, "...and lie to myself a

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Someone said that "40% of the money is 'misappropirated'." If that > is true, > > its better than most western charities whre 90% of the money goe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 6:11 PM, authfriend wrote: And none of them back up Lawson's ludicrous claim. It wasn't Lawson's claim, it was that of his scholar friend, who is a professor of East Asian Studies at the University of Arizona. Well I think the guy needs to go back and do a lot more studyi

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Someone said that "40% of the money is 'misappropirated'." If that > is true, > > its better than most western charities whre 90% of the money

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > But you know, I've been really amazed by the > > tepid responses I've been getting. Basically, they all > > boil down to one thing: "Guru Dev was

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Someone said that "40% of the money is 'misappropirated'." If that is true, > its better than most western charities whre 90% of the money goes to > "administrative overhead." > Lawson, I do not believe this to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > The entire TM movement is based upon "So-and- > > so said so, so it's true." The trumped-up > > science was merely an attempt to "prove" to > > doubters th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:14 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > From 60 years ago, on the Web, in English? Quite > > probably not. As I pointed out earlier (I guess > > you're not reading most of what I write), you'd > > prob

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to > rais

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what happens at some point if it is determined that funds have been misappropiated. That is what I would imagine to be the ticking time bomb. The rajas now, are accountable to the welfare of the organization, an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you know, I've been really amazed by the > tepid responses I've been getting. Basically, they all > boil down to one thing: "Guru Dev was super-important > because so-and-so says so.' And that's it. No newspape

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > I mean, I'm sure you'll be able to explain away > any evidence you're presented with. But at a certain > point, trying to argue that Guru Dev was *not* an > important spiritual figure becomes a lot more > compl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > Sal was IMO the only one to nail what was really > > going down yesterday during the "Guru Dev really > > WAS the most important spiritual figure in India" > > fest. It was all about self importance.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to raising

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The entire TM movement is based upon "So-and- > so said so, so it's true." The trumped-up > science was merely an attempt to "prove" to > doubters that so-and-so was correct. > and this is *news* to you? So let's just be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:56 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >> With all this, I've still heard nothing to indicate what, if > >> anything, made GD the "most important Hindu leader" of the first > >> half of the 20th C, an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 5:55 PM, boo_lives wrote: The main pt is that MMY lied hugely when describing SBS in order to pump up his reputation in the west. Well that's my feeling also. I only mentioned cardinals in response to Judy's mention of archbishops and because they are the only part of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where else would MMY have gotten so much > > shakti? > > From us! Interesting thread. Just when I thought I done with with y'all, you pull me back in again! Pre-television, rural India, my bet Guru Dev was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 3:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > Unfortunately it doesn't say what the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 3:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Unfortunately it doesn't say what the "accomplishments" > > were, but at least it describes the result. > > "Accomplishment" was a translation of the Sankrit word > "si

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > > {quoting advaita-vedanta.org:) > The appointment > > > was made by a committee of pundits from

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to > raising $

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:45 PM, new.morning wrote: By what evidence, othr than someone claiming it to be so, do you fel that Jyotirmath was reestablished as an important center of traditional advaita teaching in northern India. Have you been there, to Jyotirmath? I have not. But the pictures that

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" wrote: > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to raising $1Billion for > > the BST (Brahmananda Saraswati Trust). The BST will su

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:04 PM, authfriend wrote: > > {quoting advaita-vedanta.org:) > The appointment > > > was made by a committee of pundits from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > [snip] > > > The entire TM movement is based upon "So-and- > > so said so, so it's true." The trumped-up > > science was merely an attempt to "prove" to

[FairfieldLife] Confirmation and Diagnostic Bias -- Samskaras, Cult Methods and Ruts

2008-06-29 Thread new . morning
Recent discussion, as well as some themes of the past, illustrate strong examples of these two quite strong, pervasive and interrelated biases. In a nutshell confirmation bias occurs when one has a fixed mental framework or model as to how things are -- and unconsciously select observations and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:14 PM, authfriend wrote: From 60 years ago, on the Web, in English? Quite probably not. As I pointed out earlier (I guess you're not reading most of what I write), you'd probably have to travel to India and research the archives of various newspapers and magazines to find

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > The entire TM movement is based upon "So-and- > so said so, so it's true." The trumped-up > science was merely an attempt to "prove" to > doubters that so-and-so was correct. [snip] The entire TM movement was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 3:22 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >> But you know, I've been really amazed by the > >> tepid responses I've been getting. Basically, they all > >> boil down to one thing: "Guru Dev was super-importa

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On B

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" wrote: > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to raising $1Billion for > > the BST (Brahmananda Saraswati Trust). The BST will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:04 PM, authfriend wrote: {quoting advaita-vedanta.org:) The appointment > > was made by a committee of pundits from Varanasi, and SrI > > brahmAnanda's accomplishments helped re-establish the >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev was the most important = *I* am the most important

2008-06-29 Thread Vaj
On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:22 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: No doubt, and if anyone should know, it's Nabs. But you know, I've been really amazed by the tepid responses I've been getting. Basically, they all boil down to one thing: "Guru Dev was super-important because so-and-so says so." And that's it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" wrote: > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to raising > > $1Billion for > > the BST (Brahmananda Saraswati Trust). The BST

[FairfieldLife] Re: Today is Curtis "DeltaBlues" Mailloux's birthday

2008-06-29 Thread film_man_pdx
-I got dem old Robert Johnson Sidha Birthday Blues!

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > wrote: > > > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to > raising $1Billion for > > the BST (Brahmananda Saraswati Trust). The

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Trial Balance?

2008-06-29 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > According to Bevan, Howard Settle in recent days has committed to raising > $1Billion for > the BST (Brahmananda Saraswati Trust). The BST will support efforts in India > to preserve > Vedic culture by supp

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