RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-26 Thread authfriend
Share, did you kinda miss the point about the possible Secret Service "conspiracy"? According to the BBC show Salyavin described, the "conspiracy" was not to kill Kennedy, but to cover up that he was killed by accident, after the fact. Obviously if that were the situation, Johnson's relation

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2013-11-25 Thread feste37
I've just ordered a copy of Roger Stone's recently published book The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ. I think it likely that LBJ was the mastermind. There's enough just on YouTube to make the case, including Jack Ruby himself, who says the assassination would never have happened ha

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread authfriend
This is from the entry on the assassination in Wikpedia: "In contrast to the conclusions of the Warren Commission, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations (HSCA) concluded in 1978 that K

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread authfriend
For the record, I don't just automatically disbelieve sense-witnesses; but there's been so much recent research about the unreliability of eyewitness testimony (not to mention false memory) that I can't automatically accept such testimony either. I think I'm least trustful of nosewitness tes

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread salyavin808
"The Warren Report wasn't meant to find the truth, it was meant to deflect it." Now I agree. it's like we say about public enquiries in England, they are there to make us think the government is doing something about whatever we are upset about. Some establishment stooge will be appointed a

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2013-11-25 Thread salyavin808
"OK, I'm still skeptical of sense-witnesses as a source of factual information" Interesting. I remember reading about a tribe in the Amazon who claimed they had heard a rare animal that an explorer was looking for. "But did you see it?" he'd ask. It didn't matter to them, they lived in a dark

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2013-11-25 Thread authfriend
Salyavin wrote: > "Did they volunteer this information, or were they asked?" All sorts > volunteered this info, police, pedestrians near the car etc. Just about > everyone was interviewed. OK, I'm still skeptical of sense-witnesses as a source of factual information. > Did I mention

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread Bhairitu
The Warren Report wasn't meant to find the truth, it was meant to deflect it. On 11/25/2013 11:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: "Did they volunteer this information, or were they asked?" All sorts volunteered this info, police, pedestrians near the car etc. Just about everyone was interviewed. Did

RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread salyavin808
"Did they volunteer this information, or were they asked?" All sorts volunteered this info, police, pedestrians near the car etc. Just about everyone was interviewed. Did I mention that in a photo of the cars after Kennedy was shot you can see the SS guy holding a large rifle in one hand! "

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2013-11-25 Thread raunchydog
Recommended reading: Jim DiEugenio Destiny Betrayed, JFK, Cuba and the Garrison Case Overview: http://consortiumnews.com/2013/11/19/where-new-jfk-evidence-points/ Joe Williams The Grassy Knoll Report Complete text of Vincent Salandria's speech to the Coalition on Political Assassinations

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread authfriend
Makes sense to me too. It wouldn't have been that difficult, I suppose, to keep that story from getting out. Also not surprising that there were no general suspicions to that effect--the idea of its having been an accident caused by the Secret Service, of all people, is just too wildly unlikely

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread salyavin808
Before last week I would have scoffed at any conspiracy surrounding Kennedy's death. There was Oswald's rifle, three spent cartridges and the usual objection that covering it up would have been a ludicrously complex undertaking with so many people to swear to silence that it would be a trillion

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread authfriend
Yes, movies are definitely the best way to find out what happened in real life. (Novels, too.) Maybe someday somebody will make a movie or write a novel about how people feel so threatened by sudden, tragic events that they have to believe in conspiracy theories about the Powers That Be hav

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-25 Thread Share Long
Richard, I haven't read any books about the JFK assassination but I saw Oliver Stone's movie LOL. So I'm convinced there was a conspiracy and also for 9/11 and Princess Di's fatal accident. The Powers That Be are ruthless imo though I can't help but wonder why they feel so threatened. Really, wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
Why are we not surprised the Prof Troll buys the Warren Report kool-aid. On 11/24/2013 02:44 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There is no doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippet - hardly anyone supports the theory that Oswald was innocent of the killings. He was caught red-handed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
There is no doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippet - hardly anyone supports the theory that Oswald was innocent of the killings. He was caught red-handed (no pun intended). Oswald didn't need any co-conspirators in order to pull the trigger three times on Kennedy and four times

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
A co-conspirator can't be named because Oswald appears to have been patsy so it wasn't a conspirator. He even said so himself. Why else would have Jack Ruby shot him other than to keep him quiet otherwise a trial might have shown he indeed was innocent? The spent shells might not have been t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
Can you name a single co-conspirator? Lee Harvey Oswald left his rifle inside the building where the shots were fired with three spent shells on the floor. Oswald was arrested inside the the theater holding the pistol he used to shoot Tippet. What other proof do you need that Oswald killed Ken

Re: [FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-24 Thread Bhairitu
Reminds me of the folks I listened to on the radio this last week explaining why people won't believe the lone gunman theory. They have all these sewed up psychological theories about how the mind develops conspiracy theories. I find the lone gunman theory as preposterous a the idea Martians

[FairfieldLife] Going out of my mind?

2013-11-24 Thread salyavin808
http://www.livescience.com/41128-out-of-body-experiences-explained.html http://www.livescience.com/41128-out-of-body-experiences-explained.html