Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-11 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Salyavin808, Thank you for your reply. From my side, it appears that you may be responding to some reaction as to what you think I wrote, not what I actually wrote. However, I recognize that my writing may be unclear, muddled and that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-11 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Salyavin808, Thank you for your reply. From my side, it appears that you may be responding to some reaction as to what you think I wrote, not what I actually wrote. However, I recognize that my writing may be unclear, muddled and that I have been unable to coherently express my actual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-10 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sal: "..the ability to gain knowledge of the external world by NOT looking at it and coming up with explanatory ideas for inner visions that explain reality would be a bitter blow to everyone toiling in laboratories to come up with fundame

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 4:59 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > The observable world from the single cell organisms all the way to the stars show a decided lack of karma. > Karma is defined as action or work. Everything from a single cell organism up to and including the stars, is dependent on action. Everyth

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. So unless it isn't a neurophysiological state, enlightenment will be the same whether you know anything about Indian philosophy or not. Wouldn't it? > On 12/9/2014 4:53 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > Yes. > Accor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 12/9/2014 1:43 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. That's not what it is about and why so many TM'ers are confused. > /Apparently they don't teach Buddhist logic at most universities, like they do at UT in the Center f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
the shape India is in, what good is it? From: "seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)   Sal: &quo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sal: "..the ability to gain knowledge of the external world by NOT looking at it and coming up with explanatory ideas for inner visions that explain reality would be a bitter blow to everyone toiling in laboratories to come up with fundamental physical ideas" For me, traditional cultu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Enlightenment does not automaticallygive one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. Suits me, I'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 12/09/2014 01:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. So unless it isn't a neurophysiological state, enlightenment will be the same whether you know anything about In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. Suits me, I'm not remotely interested in it. I heard that its value was that it had an analogue in particle physics but it doesn't. Just as well really be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Enlightenment does not automatically give one instant knowledge of Indian philosophy. That's not what it is about and why so many TM'ers are confused. On 12/09/2014 09:15 AM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have realize

[FairfieldLife] Prarabdha vs Sanchita Karma and Spiritual Liberation (was Greatest Guru)

2014-12-09 Thread seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It appears that at least some who seek or feel that they are have realized an enlightened state --- and talk and walk within the broad framework of vedic / hindu / yogic / buddhist / tantric traditions, have very limited understanding of the types and range of karma within those traditions(1) re