[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-18 Thread seekliberation
I think Religion is a bi-product of spirituality, as opposed to sprituality being a bi-product of religion. First you have spirituality. Someone achieves great spiritual development and achieves a great deal of admiration. So a bunch of people follow that person, record his thoughts and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-18 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I think Religion is a bi-product of spirituality, as opposed to sprituality being a bi-product of religion. It is very difficult to gain *proficiency* in Religion without spirituality, this is true, that is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-18 Thread seekliberation
And how does that person 'achieve' great spiritual development?, through a Religion developed by someone who achieved great spiritual development, and on and on it goes, religion leads to spirituality which is the substance of religion. FWIW. :-) Not necessarily. Eckhart Tolle, from what

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-17 Thread wgm4u
Additionally, the suggestion that one is 'spiritual' and not Religious, generally means one does not follow any 'sectarian' Religion, but some take it a step further and suggest that Religion itself doesn't even lead to spirituality which is ridiculous. Life itself leads to spirituality, true

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-16 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
(Generally, you don't BECOME spiritual without practicing some form of Religion, today, most people who claim to be 'spiritual' (as opposed to Religious) *ARE* practicing some from of discipline i.e. RELIGION). Bhairitu: Religion is for sheeple... Religion is for the 99%;

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread martyboi
Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Religion is the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. The misery in the world is because we throw away the banana and are holding on to the skin.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
I had not really thought about this. I found an article on about.com (http://atheism.about.com/od/religionnonreligion/a/spirituality.htm) that discusses this point - it implies this distinction between spirituality and religion is mainly an American (US) phenomenon. My question here is, if an

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Religion is the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. The misery in the world is because we throw away the banana and are holding on to the skin. Hear hear. Either that or religion is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread martyboi
Dude, is that coffee shop a little smokey this morning? Are you saying that religious people are usually dicks? Hear hear. Either that or religion is the condom and spirituality is the dick. Religions that involve a lot of costumes and dress-up are like French ticklers. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: I had not really thought about this. I found an article on about.com (http://atheism.about.com/od/religionnonreligion/a/spirituality.htm) that discusses this point - it implies this distinction between

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Religion is the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. The misery in the world is because we throw away the banana and are holding on to the skin. Or, fixating on the finger pointing at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread wgm4u
I think what Turq is trying to say is that ALL of life itself, is Religion, either it is poorly practiced Religion or Wisely practiced Religion. Because life itself is a form of school and learning (through the experience of opposites) whose purpose is to bring all human Beings to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@ wrote: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Religion is the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. The misery in the world is because we throw away the banana and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@ wrote: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: Religion is the banana skin and spirituality is the banana. The misery in the world is because we throw away

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: I think what Turq is trying to say is that ALL of life itself, is Religion, either it is poorly practiced Religion or Wisely practiced Religion. Au contraire, Pierre. What Turq is trying to say is that in his opinion religion

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
'wgm4u' I am quoting from two different posts here (Turq Xeno). I think you are missing something here. I cannot really speak for Turq, but to take a shot, what he says is often a lot less than what he has been assumed to have said, that is, you have over-interpreted whatever his intent might

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: 'wgm4u' I am quoting from two different posts here (Turq Xeno). I think you are missing something here. I cannot really speak for Turq, but to take a shot, what he says is often a lot less than what he

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Fair enough. Regards Krishnamurti and Tolle. I think Krishnamurti's style of communicating his experience to others was largely confusing, though now I get what he was saying much better than in years past. Tolle does fare better, and is rather charming to listen to, so you get a sense of what

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread martyboi
Q: Dear Guruji, I have never been a spiritual or a true religious person. How can I learn to let go and believe? Sri Sri Ravi Shankar: You don't have to label yourself- I am spiritual, religious person etc. No need for it. Just be natural, beautiful, good human being. That's it! If someone is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Spirituality' is the bi-product of Religion.

2011-12-15 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: pirituality once and for all. Is it possible to have a spiritual experience without the presence of and outside of the confines of a religion? Of course it is. Many of the founders of what later became religions did