--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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> "Krishna," that to which that word marks did not
> experience or not not experience pain.Let me ask you a
> question. If in a dream "you" are shot, are "you" shot
> in waking state? No. So what happens when "y
> Good one Sal !!But then again, maybe MMY is just
facilitating thekarma of previous lifetime greed by those with moneyand
taking it away from them is what is necessary. Whoknows? The ways of karma
are unfathomable. Oh, thestories we tell!A great quote I heard is "in the succession of t
--- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > By that logic, then, MMY should end up a pauper.
> >
> > Sal
> >
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2005, at 3:03 PM, lupidus108 wrote:
> >
> > > According to Maharishi, T
--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You see, now this is the problem. Oh yeah, Krishna
> was hopping
> around yelling in pain because I guess his body was
> doing the body
> thing but at another level there was no suffering
> because...well
> because there was no "him" to experience
On Apr 28, 2005, at 3:15 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote:
> There is no suffering as the consciousness that knows itself as
> Krishna sees this painful act of being shot in the foot as absolutely
> perfect. Krishna knows it is perfect because that is the way it went
> down. Pain is ver
Peter Sutphen writes:snipped
Rick Carlstrom writes; Big Snip
You see, now this is the problem. Oh yeah, Krishna was hopping
around yelling in pain because I guess his body was doing the body
thing but at another level there was no suffering because...well
because there was no "him" to experienc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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> --- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Much of these metal gymnastics regarding
> > enlightenment
> > > and su
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> By that logic, then, MMY should end up a pauper.
>
> Sal
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>
> On Apr 27, 2005, at 3:03 PM, lupidus108 wrote:
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> > According to Maharishi, TWB was shot because he had previously killed
> > others, as a soldier
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108"
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> > wrote:
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> > > > Ram/Vishnu was in the pillar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"
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> Comments interleaved below.
>
> Bob Brigante wrote:
> >
> > the experience of disease or any other traumatic event
> > is completely different for the enlightened person (an actually
> > enlightened person,
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Much of these metal gymnastics regarding
> enlightenment
> > and suffering come about because of a foundational
> > misconception regarding enlightenment that
> neces
By that logic, then, MMY should end up a pauper.
Sal
On Apr 27, 2005, at 3:03 PM, lupidus108 wrote:
According to Maharishi, TWB was shot because he had previously killed
others, as a soldier in the army.
http://www.yogiphotos.com/chap3a.html
> so either this was a function of some karma returning to him from his
> ignorant past
According to Maharishi, TWB was shot because he had previously killed
others, as a soldier in the army.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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> Much of these metal gymnastics regarding enlightenment
> and suffering come about because of a foundational
> misconception regarding enlightenment that necessarily
> must come about when understood within the const
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Ram/Vishnu was in the pillar
> http://www.answers.com/topic/narasimha ,
> > > the Vedic Pundits and people practicing TM ar
I think people can romanticize enlightenment,
especially CC, as the fulfillment or completion of the
ego because that is the only way it can be understood
from waking state. CC is a foundational shift from
individuality, the result of bondage or
identification, to no identification. CC is the
appe
Peter Sutphen wrote:
> The "reason" why there is no
> suffering in enlightenment is that there is no
> individuality there to suffer. Pain occurs, but there
> is nobody home to suffer.
Thanks, Peter. Yours is a point I had in mind when
writing my post, below, but did not state explicitly.
Tom
or an enlightened person could get whacked without having done
anything that would generate that sort of karma (and that seems irrefutable,
since anybody can walk up to an enlightened person and shoot them or
whatever, even though that is not in any way what they
"deserve").
Or he wa
Much of these metal gymnastics regarding enlightenment
and suffering come about because of a foundational
misconception regarding enlightenment that necessarily
must come about when understood within the constructs
of waking state. The "reason" why there is no
suffering in enlightenment is that th
Comments interleaved below.
Bob Brigante wrote:
>
> the experience of disease or any other traumatic event
> is completely different for the enlightened person (an actually
> enlightened person, one hastens to add, not a Fairfield Life list
> enlightened person) than for the ignorant person. ..
Nah, the meditator would be so busy mood-making, the disease microbes would run from him/her in horror. :)
On Apr 26, 2005, at 11:22 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
OK, are you saying that someone in CC would be immune from smallpox, if an
epidemic were to break out?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 4/26/05 11:14 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >> Does this mean a meditator would be immune from smallpox, if an
> > epidemic
> >> were to break out?
> >
> >
> >
> > Really, one has to g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 4/26/05 11:14 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >> Does this mean a meditator would be immune from smallpox, if an
> > epidemic
> >> were to break out?
> >
> >
> >
> > Really, one has to g
on 4/26/05 11:14 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Does this mean a meditator would be immune from smallpox, if an
> epidemic
>> were to break out?
>
>
>
> Really, one has to gain CC, and from that platform of bliss, one's
> action would be right, life-supporting and woul
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 4/26/05 4:54 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > **
> >
> > Nature is always declaring war on wrongdoing humans, and when it
does
> > so, it frequently makes nuclear weapons look trivial.
Hmm. Is that in the
Appalachians?
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:36
PM
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > More importantly, you are
on 4/26/05 4:54 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> **
>
> Nature is always declaring war on wrongdoing humans, and when it does
> so, it frequently makes nuclear weapons look trivial. One disease
> alone, smallpox, killed ~300,000,000 people in the 20th Century,
> while all
So were you eating a
Snickers?
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PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Asuras and
Avataras..Ram/Narsimha/Varaha
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> More importantly, you are missing the point that Ram/Vishnu are
> omnipresent as the universal consciousness, which is what Prahlad had
> to say, and his pop found out when the lion guy popped out of the
> pillar.
More
importantly, you are missing the point that Ram/Vishnu are omnipresent as
the universal consciousness, which is what Prahlad had to say, and his pop
found out when the lion guy popped out of the pillar. Devotion to God is
regularity of practice of TM which allows one to align oneself
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108"
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> "'Quite suddenly' gives expression to the way in which
> nature functions. Nature ensures great flexibility for the growth
of
> good or evil in the atmosphere. But when an influence grows beyond
> elastic limits, n
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > From one hour and 10 mins o
Llundrub wrote:
"'Quite suddenly' gives expression to the way in which
nature functions. Nature ensures great flexibility for the growth of
good or evil in the atmosphere. But when an influence grows beyond
elastic limits, nature will no longer sustain it; suddenly the
breaking-point is reach
"'Quite suddenly' gives _expression_ to the way in which nature
functions. Nature ensures great flexibility for the growth of good or evil
in the atmosphere. But when an influence grows beyond elastic limits, nature
will no longer sustain it; suddenly the breaking-point is reached."
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They should be disbanded immediately. But,
unfortunately, it's already, 30 years TOO LATE. Let's see RESULTS,
not just theories. Actions speak louder than words.Let's confront
these issues and resolve them.I think that this is exactly the goal of Al
Qaeda.
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > From one hour and 10 mins on during the mou.org press conference
of
> > 13Apr2005, MMY says some interesting things about
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> Bob wrote:
>
> MMY at one hour and 10 mins and following in the 13Apr2005 press
> conference
http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Apr/wnews_13apr2005_128.ram ,
> compares the TM movement to Prahlad: just as Prahlad cou
Bob wrote:
MMY at one hour and 10 mins and following in the 13Apr2005 press
conference http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Apr/wnews_13apr2005_128.ram ,
compares the TM movement to Prahlad: just as Prahlad could not say
that Ram is limited in any way and therefore he could not deny that
Ram/Vishnu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sadhak108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > From one hour and 10 mins on during the mou.org press conference
of
> > 13Apr2005, MMY says some interesting things about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From one hour and 10 mins on during the mou.org press conference of
> 13Apr2005, MMY says some interesting things about the sound of the
> Vedas and also Prahlad, the kid who was a devotee of Ram despite his
>
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