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> > > Nicely put. Any concept
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Nicely put. Any concept of "enlightened behavior" is
> > more a reflection
Peter wrote:
I find your points to be quite off the mark and restrict my critique
to the simple observation that almost all of the points credit Bush
jr with being far more than he is.
Thank you for your comments. I agree, I have
probably credited Bush with more than he deserves.
However, we are
Peterklutz wrote:
> What is it called for someone who is enlightened,
> when a ripple aware of it's status as the Ocean levels out and in
the process performs a yagya that resounds for millenia to come?
Peter writes:
I think you are attributing qualities and abilities to
the enlightened that just
I find your points to be quite off the mark and restrict my critique
to the simple observation that almost all of the points credit Bush
jr with being far more than he is.
"manipulative masterminds" & "glorious leader type personalities":
Bush is neither glorious nor a leader type, he defaulted
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> > > In both cases there is action that is satt
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From: anonymousff
FWIW, in numerous lectures at the first Mallorca TTC, Jan-June, 1971,
Maharishi told us (many times) that we should get rid of as many bad
habits as possible before CC because they wouldn't go away just
because we were enlightened. He said clearly we take our bad habits
Akasha:
> do you hold that sadhana have not effect on behavior?
> > Decreased anger, guilt, embarassment, jealousy, envy, and
> > reactiveness, along with increased happiness, sparkle, crativity,
> > love, tolerance, flexibility and compassion seem not only to be
> > positive correlated with sadha
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> > I think it's a mistake to consider "positive" (sattvic?)
> > actions/events and evolutionary-promotive action to be
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On Oct 10, 2005, at 7:02 PM, peterklutz wrote:
> Ok, so control-freaks need not heed MMY's reported 197? comment on
> loosing one's bad habits?
No hard and fast rule, but from this POV you transform the negative,
neurotic dimension of existence into "All-Accomplishing Wisdom".
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you hold that sadhana have not effect on behavior?
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> Decreased anger, guilt, embarassment, jealousy, envy, and
> reactiveness, along with increased happiness, sparkle, crativity,
> love, tolerance, flexibility and co
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> > > Action, indeed, should be understood,
>
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> > Action, indeed, should be understood,
> > wrong action should also be understood,
> > and inaction should be understood as well.
> > U
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Oct 10, 2005, at 5:00 PM, peterklutz wrote:
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> > In the BG MMY says at least two things that might be of guidance. The
> > first is that an enlightened individual (another oxymoron..?) always
> > acts to promote evolut
On Oct 10, 2005, at 5:00 PM, peterklutz wrote:
> In the BG MMY says at least two things that might be of guidance. The
> first is that an enlightened individual (another oxymoron..?) always
> acts to promote evolution.
Precisely...and this would be enlightened *activity*...typically the
provin
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> > > Even more key, it seems to me, is Kris
Peter:
Any concept of "enlightened behavior" is
more a reflection of a cultural/psychological boundary
of the individual than some assessment of
enlightenment. By the way, I just realized, the term
"enlightened behavior" is an oxymoron. There is no
such thing as enlightened behavior. There's just
b
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> > Even more key, it seems to me, is Krishna's
> > assertion, "Unfathomable is the course of action."
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> BIG SNIP
> >
> > We can,
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> -- snip --
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> > Nicely put. Any concept of "enlightened behavior" is
> > more a reflectio
--- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> -- snip --
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> > Nicely put. Any concept of "enlightened behavior"
> is
> > more a reflection of a cultural/psychological
> b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> -- snip --
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> > Nicely put. Any concept of "enlightened behavior" is
> > more a reflection
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-- snip --
> Nicely put. Any concept of "enlightened behavior" is
> more a reflection of a cultural/psychological boundary
> of the individual than some assessment of
> enlightenme
On Oct 10, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Peter wrote:
> Nicely put. Any concept of "enlightened behavior" is
> more a reflection of a cultural/psychological boundary
> of the individual than some assessment of
> enlightenment. By the way, I just realized, the term
> "enlightened behavior" is an oxymoron. The
On 10/10/05 3:28 PM, "anonymousff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Interesting point.
>>
>> It's different though as we approach Unity and the "extinction of all
>> phenomenon". There's actually a yogic saying on this which states
>> "Ascend with Conduct, Descend with the View." In other words,
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> I once believed that but I no longer do.
> To me all the whole sheband now means is that
> whoever you are, however
> you act, as you become increasingly free from the
> binding influence of
> acti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Oct 10, 2005, at 1:04 PM, anonymousff wrote:
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> > FWIW, in numerous lectures at the first Mallorca TTC, Jan-June, 1971,
> > Maharishi told us (many times) that we should get rid of as many bad
> > habits as possible be
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