[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night and TM

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidLynchFoundation#p/search/0/oBrzv-iMcCE > > "In times, meditating with them, and someone would burst into tears and I > said 'what was it?' and they said 'well, my Dad molested me' and I'd say 'OK' > an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-02 Thread sparaig
Understand: I am NOT trying to claim that Davidson IS biased, or that Fred Travis isn't, just pointing out that these guys who study meditation always have an agenda and there's none innocent of at least the appearance of bias when researching something like this. An exception might be the scie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > Eh, I can't find the exact quote by Alan Wallace quoting > Davidson as saying "I didn't need to do research to kknow > this stuff works," but wikipedia points out that this > isn't really news to many: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jul 2, 2011, at 4:01 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > Yes, it is called "researcher bias" and a huge portion of the "scientific > > method" is designed to try to compensate for it. > > And the only ones who get taken seriously are > the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 2, 2011, at 4:01 AM, sparaig wrote: > Yes, it is called "researcher bias" and a huge portion of the "scientific > method" is designed to try to compensate for it. And the only ones who get taken seriously are the ones who succeed at it, with things like double-blind studies, etc. > It's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-02 Thread sparaig
Yes, it is called "researcher bias" and a huge portion of the "scientific method" is designed to try to compensate for it. It's not just TM researchers who are susceptible to it. Every researcher needs to be on his or her guard. What I find amusing is that no-one on this forum questions the bia

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 1, 2011, at 2:55 PM, sparaig wrote: > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> >> On 06/30/2011 03:24 AM, sparaig wrote: >>> > [...] >> Research on meditation has been around since way before Maharishi >> started his movement. Scientists are always curious about these th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-07-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 06/30/2011 03:24 AM, sparaig wrote: > > [...] > Research on meditation has been around since way before Maharishi > started his movement. Scientists are always curious about these things. > Yeah, but MMY was the first guru I'm aware

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-30 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/30/2011 03:24 AM, sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 06/29/2011 08:43 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: > So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, > respond to this: > >>> Bhairitu: It doesn't have to be TM either. My tantr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 06/29/2011 08:43 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: > > > >>> So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, > >>> respond to this: > >>> > > Bhairitu: > >> It doesn't have to be TM either. My tantra guru > >> taught meditation to sim

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-29 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/29/2011 08:43 AM, richardjwilliamstexas wrote: > >>> So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, >>> respond to this: >>> > Bhairitu: >> It doesn't have to be TM either. My tantra guru >> taught meditation to similar kids through a program >> on of students who is a juvenile office set

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-29 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
> > So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, > > respond to this: > > Bhairitu: > It doesn't have to be TM either. My tantra guru > taught meditation to similar kids through a program > on of students who is a juvenile office set up. > So, your tantra guru teaches a meditation that is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-28 Thread sparaig
The research was yanked from online publication at the very last minute (12 minutes to be exact) because new data was submitted that no-one had had time to evaluate. If the data turns out to be neutral or reinforce the findings, then the researchers merely have egg on their face for untimeliness

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-28 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Vaj: > I feel sorry for the children and the soldiers > and the cardiac patients they fool... > This deception must be vast, judging by the news story in today's Telegraph! But, I'm beginning to think that the research cited by Vaj is the faked research, NOT the TM research mentioned in many pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:05 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: > > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma- > > abuse_b_883225.html > > > The Balls are well-k

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-26 Thread emptybill
Vaj is a "concern troll" posting here to convert us styoopid TM meditators so we will take up his brand of "cross-eyed joka". WTF? Why expect something else? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: > > > > On

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 06/26/2011 05:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> On 06/26/2011 10:05 AM, sparaig wrote: > >>> So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: > >>> > >>> http://

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-26 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/26/2011 05:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 06/26/2011 10:05 AM, sparaig wrote: >>> So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: >>> >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma-abuse_b_883225.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night

2011-06-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 06/26/2011 10:05 AM, sparaig wrote: > > So, I'm curious as to how MZ, not to mention Vaj, respond to this: > > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-ball/meditation-trauma-abuse_b_883225.html > > It doesn't have to be TM either. M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > I have no problem with that. But it's just a wee tad bit > different than what you said that I was commenting on, > don't you think? > "There are three distinct experiences BEFORE one transcends > to PURE CONSCIOUSNESS; and they are S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Pure consciousness is what one experiences during > > meditation, Billy. > > What you experience is a faint awareness of your own Self > or Jiva (Soul) some may, as MMY has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > Pure consciousness is what one experiences during > meditation, Billy. What you experience is a faint awareness of your own Self or Jiva (Soul) some may, as MMY has said, "Tip toe through the sleeping elephants" (figuratively), an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > David Lynch Foundation Television: > > > > http://dlf.tv/2011/children-of-the-night/ > > > > Good one on mantras too! http:/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > OK, OK I HEAR YOU ! > > David Lynch on his MISSION: > http://dlf.tv/2009/his-mission/ His first comment illustrates why TM MUST divorce itself from Religion.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > David Lynch Foundation Television: > > > > http://dlf.tv/2011/children-of-the-night/ > > > > Good one on mantras t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night - Rescuing Children from Prostitution in America

2011-02-12 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > David Lynch Foundation Television: > > http://dlf.tv/2011/children-of-the-night/ > Good one on mantras too! http://dlf.tv/2009/mantras/ ...though he falls into the same abiss most T