--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "handsonmaui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Good point Gullible Fool.
>
> Your example of Houston vs. Israel shows why statistics can be so
> misleading. Just a quick google and I found there were 26 gun
> homicides in Iowa (3 year average 2000 - 2002).
Good point Gullible Fool.
Your example of Houston vs. Israel shows why statistics can be so
misleading. Just a quick google and I found there were 26 gun
homicides in Iowa (3 year average 2000 - 2002). Iowa population was
just under 3 million (haven't checked recently) compared to Israel's 7
m
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/20/ap/strange/main2712870.shtml
In a message dated 4/20/07 7:29:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can't draw conclusions about gun control based on
Houston and Israel being the same size. 96 percent of
the population of Israel consists of but two ethnic
groups. Most of the city shares the same r
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I only am responding to this part but there were many
> great lines. In particular I could use the address of
> chicks who are retired at 33 in Spain and who made a
> living making men happy. I have a theory
You can't draw conclusions about gun control based on
Houston and Israel being the same size. 96 percent of
the population of Israel consists of but two ethnic
groups. Most of the city shares the same religious
beliefs. Israel is a nation, with a population that is
spread out amongst different cit
Ok, there are a lot of guns around already. Does that mean we need to have even
more?
The Cho guy didn't get a gun from somebody that owned already a gun (like a
parent). He bought a new one, with a procedure that lasted a couple of
minutes. Buying a car would have taken much more red tape.
Please, look at CNN video news in the CNN website called "Bearing Arms".
It talks about gun law in Israel. Israel is one of the most violent places on
earth, and though it is not easy to get a gun. The gun laws are similar to
almost any other civil place in the world: months of paper work, mult
"Ain't it just heartbreaking, the level of FEAR that people
> must live with on a daily basis to really *get into* guns?
> I know a fellow who is one of the sweetest guys you could
> ever meet. You'd like him...he's a musician, and a pretty
> good one. Guitars, keyboards, the whole tamale. Got a w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and
> flexibility.
>
> Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry
> in the states. Going after outdoor weed crops created the
> still boomi
Comment below:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"
wrote:
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**snip**
> Of course the means of destruction do matter: Thats why automatic
> weapons were invented in the first place, because the one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Seems to me that today's climate is not a good one for
> > > > taking
Prohibition attempts are a study in human creativity and flexibility.
Blocking imported weed created an outdoor growing industry in the
states. Going after outdoor weed crops created the still booming
indoor growing primo bud industry. Shut down meth labs in the
Midwest? No problem, now it is
In a message dated 4/20/07 12:32:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Uns, just to clarify for a Brit, the purpose
of the original "right to bear arms" language
in the U.S. Constitution was *not* to allow
the people to fight off "Indians" if the need
arose. It was to fig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor"
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> > wrote:
> > > uns_tressor wrote:
> > > > The danger of the Apaches galloping
> > > > over
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 4/19/07 3:55:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> The threat which underlay the original tolerance
> of guns is gone. And guns should go along with it.
> Lesislation along with fero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just allowing people to arm themselves to fight real or imaginary
> oppression is NOT the answer, in my humble opinion. Gandhi was
> inspirational because he defeated the world power of his age with NON-
> VIOLENCE!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" wrote:
> >
> > But returning to the US scenario - I CAN'T see any
> > justification for people holding on to arms. They
> > would NOT stop an undemocratic "coup" or re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> wrote:
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> > > Seems to me that today's climate is not a good one for
> > > taking even tentative steps toward reducing anybody's
> > > civil liberties
> >
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> wrote:
> >
> > uns_tressor wrote:
> > > The danger of the Apaches galloping
> > > over the horizon is relatively low
> > > nowadays, I am told.
> >
>
In a message dated 4/19/07 3:55:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The threat which underlay the original tolerance
of guns is gone. And guns should go along with it.
Lesislation along with ferocious policing would
sort it if, and only if, there was the will.
No UN
http://www.slate.com/id/2164510/nav/tap2/
forget about guns, worry about bombs...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> uns_tressor wrote:
> > The danger of the Apaches galloping
> > over the horizon is relatively low
> > nowadays, I am told.
> >
> Were you also told that many Brit invaders
> had guns that caused the Apache
uns_tressor wrote:
> The danger of the Apaches galloping
> over the horizon is relatively low
> nowadays, I am told.
>
Were you also told that many Brit invaders
had guns that caused the Apaches to gallop
over the horizon to defend the right to
their land? If you weren't told this in
history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 4/19/07 9:26:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> There have been a bunch of good points about many aspects of this
> problem and lots of good counters. The fact is that this kid
In a message dated 4/19/07 9:26:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There have been a bunch of good points about many aspects of this
problem and lots of good counters. The fact is that this kid had
mental problems and "went off". Plenty of people saw "warning signs"
bu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Seems to me that today's climate is not a good one for
> > taking even tentative steps toward reducing anybody's
> > civil liberties
>
> Despite saying what you do above about reducing civil liberties,
> below in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > There have been a bunch of good points about many aspects of
> > this problem and lots of good counters. The fact is that this
> > kid had me
"We've got more than
enough to do to keep Bush from extending his incursions,
and then eventually rolling those back."
When I wrote the phrase "dumbass mob" trying to reduce complex
problems into simple solutions, I was totally thinking of every time
Bush talks about bringing "democracy" to Iraq,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There have been a bunch of good points about many aspects of
> this problem and lots of good counters. The fact is that this
> kid had mental problems and "went off". Plenty of people
> saw "warning signs" bu
I've been hearing a lot on the news from politicians who want to "do
something" so that this terrible tragedy "never happens again". It
represents contrasting qualities that I both love and hate about my
country. The positive side is American optimism. That Micky Rooney
addressing the whole town
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> wrote:
> >
> > Discuss amongst yourselves.
>
> There is a perverse logic here. But it is perverse.
> We in England are defeated by Americans' love
> of guns. Th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6567329.stm
> guns, bombs = means of destruction
> 32 killed in US - terrible - a mad guy perhaps
> over 100 killed DAILY in Iraq - horrific - an insane situation for
> sure
Jews in WW2, liberation movements & guns.. maybe that was the only
way THEN? Don't think we should encourage people to have guns..
Governments have better guns, organization & oppressive apparatus
anyway. The Palestinians tried to use violence to help their cause -
personally I think it did NOT
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Discuss amongst yourselves.
>
There is a perverse logic here. But it is perverse.
We in England are defeated by Americans' love
of guns. The danger of the Apaches galloping
over the horizon is relatively low nowaday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6567329.stm
>
> guns, bombs = means of destruction
> 32 killed in US - terrible - a mad guy perhaps
> over 100 killed DAILY in Iraq - horrific - an insane situation for
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6567329.stm
guns, bombs = means of destruction
32 killed in US - terrible - a mad guy perhaps
over 100 killed DAILY in Iraq - horrific - an insane situation for
sure
Is there a parallel? Gun laws don't help; neither do endless Hollywod
movies and int
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