[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course >

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > concerned... Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed from demonstrat

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > concerned... > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have describe

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral ob

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral ob

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ..."Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the Maha

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
But meditation is about letting go. Perhaps for some TMers the obstacle to transcending is no more than realising that that is what TM is supposed to enable. Maybe the idea that one has a 'guru' can make one tardy in the focus of one's practice. In reality, if one has a guru he kicks butt and

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' Star, 1978 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROT

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ..."Shankaracharya Swami Shantanand Saraswati (Guru Dev's successor) noted that the last thing a renunciate lets go of, is the idea of renunciation." Delightful, and to the point. Seems difficult to avo

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
> >>> > >>> Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > >>> Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > > from > >>> demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > > own > >>> dodgey reputation. Mr. Paul; let's call a spade a spade

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' > Star, 1978 So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was he sitting

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
But if one does the renunciation in the meditation, the situation is simplied. Letting go of the idea of guru and the idea of renunciation and the idea of meditating and then the idea of a focus of meditation. & that's what one is supposed to be plunged into, during every period of 'meditation'

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not like, because it digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they resort to personal attacks. I don't usually bother to answer crap like this but today I thought I'd mak

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
--- > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > Maharishi will probably always be in question. There you have Paul Mason in a nutshel

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course > w

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil the fun. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not > like, because it digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they > resort

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > > group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not > > like, b

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
I hear what your saying - more info on the hut - leave out the stuff about The Beatles feeling let down and that they had been led to believe there was more to him than there was - S ..the story goes that he wasn't taken with the 'bungalow' that had been built for him in his absence, so he

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than > about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try > to spoil t

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a s

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair > and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about > half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil > t

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hear what your saying - more info on the hut - leave out the > stuff about The Beatles feeling let down and that they had been > led to believe there was more to him than there was - S... > the story

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
I goofed, I meant combined on the TM newsgroups altogether. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite >

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand P

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I goofed, I meant combined on the TM newsgroups altogether. Ok, between a.m.t. and FFL I can think of six. But only six. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
> "As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and > whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of > the greatest publicity the Spir

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
But I was including TMnews, I had a couple of out-to-lunchers lunge into me. But in essence we appear to agree. Actually, it gets very obvious when I am saying something that threatens someone's belief system, other times when it's just about quotations from Guru Dev people tend to be very well

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
Mia Farrow's own take on HER incident with MMY (from her book "What falls away", p. 128): "Now we will meditate in my 'cave'," said Maharishi, and I followed him down steep wooden steps into a dark, humid little cellar room that smelled of sandalwood. It was my first time in his cave: there w

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
Paul Mason, qualified to translate Guru Dev's teaching ? What a joke, he has not even understood the fundamentals of Maharishis teachings. > By the way, I am translating Guru Dev's teachings and two things he has > said surface on this subject. Yahoo! Groups Spons

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair and > reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about half a > dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil the

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sp

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand P

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
It is good to read this account of Mia Farrow. I was initiated in this 'cave', the basement of the 'bungalow'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mia Farrow's own take on HER incident with MMY (from her book "What > falls away", p. 128): > > "Now

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a t

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > > > One might ask, "Why does what Paul believes about > > MMY affect you in any way? Why do YOU care?" > > > > Seems to me that you're interested in finding a > > way to demonize as "biased" someone who simply > > believes differently than yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of > > Maharishi stems ? > > I think it stems from the time he finally stopped > beating his wife. > It's calle

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Mahar

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a s

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfrien

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > > group of individuals who when confronted with facts they

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Let's call the spade the spade and a

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > The issue isn't where MMY was sitting; th

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > What is downright laughable is when one of those people >

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "a

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lup

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shem

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sp

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 8:27 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
'John, John,' the guru called out mournfully. 'Please don't leave me! Come back, come back!' For the second time today I post this quote from Peter Shotton biography of John Lennon. Really, calling out mournfully and whining are virtually synonymous in the English language Lawson. --- In Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair and > reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about half a > dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil the

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a t

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair > > and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of mor

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mia Farrow's own take on HER incident with MMY (from her book "What > falls away", p. 128): > > "Now we will meditate in my 'cave'," said Maharishi, and I followed > him down steep wooden steps into a dark, humid l

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [...] > Paul Mason on one side of the spectrum on the question at hand, > Spare Egg on the Other. Ofcourse. But I'm not pretending to be non-biased on the subject. > > And every point in between. > > Doesn't matter where you are on the above

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of Maharishi stems ? I would guess the same frustration that many feel when they see the TMO going in ways they don't believe are good, based on what they think is best fo

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of > > Maharishi stems ? > > I think it stems from the time he finally stopped > beating his wife. But... DID he

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [...] > Have you read Paul's book? > > I have and the impression I got is that his feelings for MMY are > about 180 degrees from "hate". > > Only a fanatic would describe an individual who demonstrates > anything less than unconditional, unth

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'John, John,' the guru called out mournfully. 'Please don't leave me! > Come back, come back!' > For the second time today I post this quote from Peter Shotton > biography of John Lennon. > > Really, call

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "aut

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'John, John,' the guru called out mournfully. 'Please don't leave me! > Come back, come back!' > For the second time today I post this quote from Peter Shotton > biography of John Lennon. > > Really, cal

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But I have found many of those posting a

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Pa

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote: > As you know, I skimmed a few chapters in Paul's > book and found some pretty snarky remarks > concerning MMY. > So, you haven't read Paul's book. But, isn't it a fact that the parts you read you read on the Internet. Exactly which parts of the book do you consider to be snarky? Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 4:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > That's wild. She already says that she's disoriented and she bases > > the entire incident on this. I would think that there was non-stop > > rounding going

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Rick Archer wrote: > Of course, on many other occasions, with > other partners, he hit home runs. > This isn't your finest moment, Rick - apparently you'll stoop to any level to bash the Maharishi - up to and including discussing his private sex life, or lack thereof. Maybe it's time for someone el

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
For a long time I dismissed the Mia Farrow/Maharishi story for all the reasons one dismisses it -- it was a misunderstanding; Magic Alex fabricated the rumor to regain his drug customers; Mia fabricated the story for reasons known only to Mia. I *really* dismissed the allegations of impropriet

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" [...] > Before the Sexy Sadie file came into being, the Mia Farrow/ > Maharishi story was an isolated incident I was inclined to > dismiss. Now I've read enough to dismiss the Farrow incident > not as unlikely, but as overkill. I've read eno

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- sparaig wrote: > > do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file > is true? Have you spoken with any of the authors personally? Oh no, I've not talked to any authors. And of course I cannot *know* if any of the stories are true. But so many people's stories jibe with one anoth

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > [...] > > Paul Mason on one side of the spectrum on the question at hand, > > Spare Egg on the Other. > > Ofcourse. But I'm not pretending to be non-biased on the su

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] > > Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of Maharishi stems ? > > I would guess the same frustration that many feel when they see the

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- sparaig wrote: > > > > do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file > > is true? Have you spoken with any of the authors personally? > > Oh no, I've not talked to any authors. And of course I ca

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- sparaig wrote: > > > > > > do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file > > > is true? Have you spoken with any o

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > do you

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
>> I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. >> The alt.m.t. political pundits: Judy, Barry1, Barry2, Shemp, and Lawson. Invasion of the political pundits - we will assimilate you - resistance is futile. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast acc

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 4:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > That's wild. She already says that she's disoriented and she bases > > the entire incident on this. I would think that there was non- stop > > rounding goi

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
shempm wrote: > What's with the hug after meditation. > It's very popular now to hug your guru or student. There's a "hugging" guru in India - I think they call her Ma, but they don't even bother with the meditation. Go figure. > ..is it, as Mia said Prudence said to her that it is a great > hon

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For a long time I dismissed the Mia Farrow/Maharishi > story for all the reasons one dismisses it -- it was a > misunderstanding; Magic Alex fabricated the rumor to > regain his drug customers; Mia fabricated th

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > do y

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe it's time for someone else to > > moderate this forum. > > How about if Barry and Judy co-moderate it? > > >Is this supposed to be a family-oriented > > discussion group? > > Without sex, there would be no famili

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. > >> > The alt.m.t. political pundits: Judy, Barry1, Barry2, Shemp, and Lawson. > > Invasion of the political pundits - we will assimilate you - > resistance

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patr

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTEC

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Pa

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jstein wrote: > > As you know, I skimmed a few chapters in Paul's > > book and found some pretty snarky remarks > > concerning MMY. > > > So, you haven't read Paul's book. > > But, isn't it a fact that the p

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMA

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jstein wrote: > > > As you know, I skimmed a few chapters in Paul's > > > book and found some pretty snarky remarks > > > conc

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > jstein wrote: > > > > As you know, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Oh no! > > Not another goddamn poet > > On FFL... > > Should be: > > O gosh no! > Not another goddam poet > On our FFL... Or:

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-06 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Oh no! > > > Not another goddamn poet > >

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