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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Hey Lawson:
On Nov 26, 2011, at 2:04 AM, sparaig wrote:
ONe of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
The Shankaracharya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
wrote:
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Lawson, puhleeze, how on Earth could that be (except perhaps
to nirbiija-samaadhi or dharma-megha-samaadhi, but one has
to fly thousands of hours on
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
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wrote:
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Lawson, puhleeze, how on Earth could that be (except perhaps
to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
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wrote:
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Lawson,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Hey Lawson:
On Nov 26, 2011, at 2:04 AM, sparaig wrote:
ONe of the more recent (15th? 14th? century) upanishads
describes yogic flying in the stages
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
The Shankaracharya trad. is very, very clear on this: yogic
flying cultivation is anathema
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
Theme song for Vaj:
http://youtu.be/nkqfa-kaRFM
HeHe, good one ! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
ONe of the more recent (15th? 14th? century) upanishads
describes yogic flying in the stages that MMY does. I
assume he was quoting it.
Many yogis believe that special pranayamas are required
for yogic flying to work,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any
known
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any known
TM Sidha, and (b) numerous Catholic Saints have been witnessed demonstrating
genuine levitation; a first step in a scientific enguiry might be to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
ONe of the more recent (15th? 14th? century) upanishads
describes yogic flying in the stages that MMY does. I
assume he was quoting it.
Many yogis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
ONe of the more recent (15th? 14th? century) upanishads
describes yogic flying in
The difference between floating and flying is one of degree,
not kind, from the TM theory perspective...
turquoiseb:
Tune in next week, boys and girls, as Professor
Lawson brings us another fascinating episode of
Reality The Way Science Would Describe It If
Science Was As Smart As
...a first step in a scientific enguiry might
be to compare what differs wrt TM and the
meditation techniques used by the Saints -
that enabled them to levitate...
cardemaister:
janmauSadhi-mantra-tapaH-samaadhi-jaaH siddhayaH.
(IV 1)
Psychic and spiritual powers (siddhi) may
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote:
On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:37 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
As much as I delighted in watching 2-3/4 year old
Maya watching it, at the same time as an adult I
couldn't help but be struck by the fact that this
we hope it'll
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
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The next morning, I stumbled upon Lawson's explan-
ation of what true levitation is, according to
genuflect Maharishi. I ask you...if you had NOT
been inundated by Maharishi's never-ending claims
that fantastic flights
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
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As far as mere levitation goes, it does not sound so
impossible give the right brain and a healthy body and
maybe a dip into some other dimension that has
different laws.
Or, as Barry has put it, opening a consciousness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
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I guess the only thing I'm riffing on is the
tendency for Maharishi TBs to assume that if
science can't prove something he claimed to be
true, the problem lies with limitations in the
science. I don't understand how
If anyone can honestly present a case WHY we should put any credence
whatsoever on Maharishi's Sidhi Scam and claims about levitation, without
parroting his words the way Lawson did, I'd love to hear it.
** You'd 'love to hear it'? OK, though please excuse my massive skepticism --
First, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
From: Sal Sunshine salsunshine@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:26:58 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Uselessness of the TM Sidhis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
If anyone can honestly present a case WHY we should put any credence
whatsoever on Maharishi's Sidhi Scam and claims about levitation, without
parroting his words the way Lawson did, I'd love to hear it.
** You'd
LOL!!! - still laughing...Happy Saturday!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
If anyone can honestly present a case WHY we should put any credence
whatsoever on Maharishi's Sidhi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
If humans psychologically need fairy tales (I think we might) then science
these days can serve up stuff that is pretty fantastical. If you have seen
the new Nova: universe-multiverse shows on PBS you know what I mean.
If humans psychologically need fairy tales (I think we might) then science
these days can serve up stuff that is pretty fantastical. If you have seen
the new Nova: universe-multiverse shows on PBS you know what I mean.
Multiverses, with one being born (exploded via a Big Bang into
Maybe it has nothing to do with levitating the body, and more to do with
'flying' through space on the level of consciousness...
Because Maharishi was appealing to the 'West' and the west is generally
materialistic, hence the concentration on the body and material wealth...rajas
and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:
Maybe it has nothing to do with levitating the body, and more to do with
'flying' through space on the level of consciousness...
Because Maharishi was appealing to the 'West' and the west is generally
materialistic,
Yeah, so...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
Maybe it has nothing to do with levitating the body, and more to do with
'flying' through space on the level of consciousness...
Because
The sidhis work on the level of subatomic particles, so to speak, from the
level of consciousness...so quantum mechanically it is possible to 'fly' on the
level of consciousness, and when one is in that state of complete silence, one
can feel oneself as if 'transported'...to : anywhere one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:
Yeah, so...
So what you labeled as seeming off in terms of a spiritual practice is
exactly what MMY had people doing. You get it, right?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
--- In
If anyone can honestly present a case WHY we should
put any credence whatsoever on Maharishi's Sidhi Scam
and claims about levitation, without parroting his
words the way Lawson did, I'd love to hear it.
authfriend:
Why are they all no more than a fairy tale but yours
is a valid
Hey Lawson:
On Nov 26, 2011, at 2:04 AM, sparaig wrote:
ONe of the more recent (15th? 14th? century) upanishads describes yogic
flying in the stages that MMY does. I assume he was quoting it.
Please: which Upanishad makes this (heretical) claim?
The Shankaracharya trad. is very, very
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Hey Lawson:
On Nov 26, 2011, at 2:04 AM, sparaig wrote:
ONe of the more recent (15th? 14th? century) upanishads
describes yogic flying in the stages that MMY does. I
assume he was quoting it.
Please: which Upanishad
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
I've heard that masturbating will make you go blind and will
cause hair to grow on your palms. It's also my understanding
that the Church holds it to be a mortal sin. If you don't
stop, you'll go to Hell.
Ruh-Roh!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:
Maybe it has nothing to do with levitating the body, and more to do with
'flying' through space on the level of consciousness...
Srila Prabhupada mentioned in his commentary to the Srimad Bhagavatam that the
ancient rishis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I've heard that masturbating will make you go blind and will
cause hair to grow on your palms. It's also my understanding
that the Church
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
I've heard that masturbating will make you go blind and will
cause
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
Maybe it has nothing to do with levitating the body, and more to do with
'flying' through space on the level of consciousness...
Srila Prabhupada
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:
snip
But to use the technique to cause muscle spasms as
in 'hopping'...would be a waste of energy and pull
the attention away from Being and increase the
metabolic rate...
If you recall, according to MMY, the effect of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any
known TM Sidha, and (b) numerous Catholic Saints have been witnessed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any
known TM Sidha, and (b) numerous Catholic Saints have been witnessed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:
Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any known
TM Sidha, and (b) numerous Catholic Saints have been witnessed demonstrating
genuine levitation; a first step in a scientific enguiry might be to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote:
Given the facts that (a) sustained hovering hasn't been achieved by any
known TM Sidha, and (b) numerous Catholic Saints have been witnessed
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