[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread WillyTex
Joe: > My copy has a name written in Sanskrit or > Hindi with the word Enjoy on the first page... > Non sequitur. None of the cited published editions have over 335 pages. 'Concordance' Maharishi Intl Univ Press, December 1967 http://tinyurl.com/3y5wqsn > > > > > > So, if true, what MMY sai

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > MIU didn't exist in 1966 Willy. The world as we know it didn't exist in 1966, man. Pre-hippie revolution, Pre-In A Silent Way and pre-Bitches Brew. :-) > Man, do I have to point out everything to you? Someone sure does. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread WillyTex
> > Is it possible blondes could be as scarce and > > appreciated in India as they are in Italy? > > TurquoiseB: > Having just spent August in the Netherlands, > I thought I'd discovered Blonde Heaven... > So, how many blonde babes did you pick up in Amsterdam? LOL!!! Where is Edg when we

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread Joe
MIU didn't exist in 1966 Willy. Man, do I have to point out everything to you? (My copy has a name written in Sanskrit or Hindi with the word Enjoy on the first page. Go figure.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > > So, if true, what MMY said about karma is

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread WillyTex
> > > > So, if true, what MMY said about karma is > > > > now "scripture"? What page was that on, > > > > Joe? > > > > > > > Page 671. > > > > > In a 432 page paperback? Go figure. > > Joe: > Good lord man, read the hardback! > So, you're thinking that the hardback edition has twice as many pa

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Having just spent August in the Netherlands, > I thought I'd discovered Blonde Heaven. It's > a shock to learn that there I was still in > the 20-49% Blonde Zone, and that there are > places a little further north that are in > the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-09-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool wrote: > > > "It's Maharishi's leftover karma; we're just > > victims of it. Pass the blondes please." >    > Is it possible blondes could be as scarce and appreciated > in India as they are in Italy? > > I did not know this interesting map ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Joe
Good lord man, read the hardback! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > So, if true, what MMY said about karma is > > > now "scripture"? What page was that on, > > > Joe? > > > > Joe: > > Page 671. > > > In a 432 page paperback? Go figure. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread WillyTex
> > So, if true, what MMY said about karma is > > now "scripture"? What page was that on, > > Joe? > > Joe: > Page 671. > In a 432 page paperback? Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > Bill: > > What happens to those effects? > > > Karma is a Buddhist concept, along with samsara and > moksha, from the shramana tradition, "of which > Buddhism and Jainism are continuations." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Sanchit karma is the stored reserve of karmic sanskara-s. Rather than > being just imprints, sanskara-s are described as being the seeds for > further actions. However, when a person liberates (jivan-mukta) from > misidentification,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > The karma goes to the deceased person's close > > > > relatives? That's what MMY said in one of his > > > > books. I'm pretty sure it was the Science of > > > > Being book. > > > > > TurquoiseB: > > > So if Maharishi's co

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread WillyTex
> > So, we can pretty much discredit anything the > > you might have to say about MMY and his visits > > to any Shanks, right? > > Vaj: > You're supposed to answer emails BEFORE you drop > the acid Willy. > So, you made a mistake and got mixed up - no need to get angry at me and try to smear me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Vaj
On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:16 PM, WillyTex wrote: So, we can pretty much discredit anything the you might have to say about MMY and his visits to any Shanks, right? Wrong. You're supposed to answer emails BEFORE you drop the acid Willy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread WillyTex
> > > The karma goes to the deceased person's close > > > relatives? That's what MMY said in one of his > > > books. I'm pretty sure it was the Science of > > > Being book. > > > TurquoiseB: > > So if Maharishi's corrupt uncles start messing > > with the female disciples they've got an "out."

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread WillyTex
> > So, we can pretty much discredit anything the > > Shank of Kanchi would have to say about anyone > > or anything, right? > Vaj: > Wrong. It's Srinigeri math, the only relatively > unbroken Shank. line. > Allright, so you got mixed up, no big deal, but there is no 'Shank of the South' - you prob

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Vaj
On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:19 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > If we were to accept the hocus-pocus about not > > being a doer, then we'd be forced to conclude > > that MMY's actions were...pretty far-fetched). > > Vaj: > Yeah. One of the key aspects of a jivanmukti > in the Shank. trad. is that s/he has

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread WillyTex
Bill: > What happens to those effects? > Karma is a Buddhist concept, along with samsara and moksha, from the shramana tradition, "of which Buddhism and Jainism are continuations." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma According to Buddhist teaching, 'karma' has nothing to do with a persons fut

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Joe
MMY has his own political party in India? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > However, it is well-known that the Kanchi Shank > was in support of MMY's political party in India. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread WillyTex
> > If we were to accept the hocus-pocus about not > > being a doer, then we'd be forced to conclude > > that MMY's actions were...pretty far-fetched). > > Vaj: > Yeah. One of the key aspects of a jivanmukti > in the Shank. trad. is that s/he has overcome > innate "demonic tendencies": hypoc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread gullible fool
s as jiva, or individual soul."   - MMY --- On Tue, 8/31/10, TurquoiseB wrote: From: TurquoiseB Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 3:31 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Joe
You beat me to the punch Barry! That was too easy, just served right up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool wrote: > > > > The karma goes to the deceased person's close relatives?  > > That's what MMY said in one of hi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Peter
. Although this understanding has absolutely no application for the dharma of waking state where doership is the order of the day with all sorts of ethical and moral choices. --- On Mon, 8/30/10, yifuxero wrote: > From: yifuxero > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread Vaj
On Aug 30, 2010, at 11:41 PM, yifuxero wrote: Interesting but speculative of course since nobody knows for sure (and nobody seems to know that, and so on...). I disagree that there's no doer. Adi Da's metaphysics is simpler and avoids the enigma of a "doer" since before E., the doer is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool wrote: > > The karma goes to the deceased person's close relatives?  > That's what MMY said in one of his books. I'm pretty > sure it was the Science of Being book. So if Maharishi's corrupt uncles start messing with the female disciples they'v

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-30 Thread cardemaister
Plz, read Taimni's comment on IV 7 karmaashuklaakRSNaM yoginas trividham itareSaam, it might answer most of yer questions (niSkaama-karma, and stuff)... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > Interesting but speculative of course since nobody knows for sure (and nobody

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-30 Thread Joe
Gee Bill..would you be my Guru?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Sanchit karma is the stored reserve of karmic sanskara-s. Rather than > being just imprints, sanskara-s are described as being the seeds for > further actions. However, when a person liberates (ji

[FairfieldLife] Re: What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

2010-08-30 Thread yifuxero
Interesting but speculative of course since nobody knows for sure (and nobody seems to know that, and so on...). I disagree that there's no doer. Adi Da's metaphysics is simpler and avoids the enigma of a "doer" since before E., the doer is the body/mind along with the false identification. ...