RE: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:11 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened? The *only* criterion I can think of that would lead me to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 8:22:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do you assume M is enlightened? I’m not saying he isn’t, but why do you assume he is? Wow, you got me there! I think I do out of habit. I assumed he was long before I ever set up that rule I te

RE: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened? In a message dated 1/28/07 6:12:06 P.M. Central

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
I think this is the best film ever made about this issue. I remember seeing it with my girlfriend at college in a mall theater in 1979. Afterwards she said, "What the f*** was that?" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/07 6:12:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/28/07 6:12:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what would *your* criteria be, if you've formulated them? I'm honestly curious, because so many here and on other forums seem completely convinced that people they've met or people who are no longer ali

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Before enlightenment, I chopped wood and carried water. After enlightenment, I chopped wood and carried water. Zen proverb. Laughter relieves us of superfluous energy which, if it remained unused, might become negative, that is, poison. Laughter is the antidote. Gurdjieff TurquoiseB <[EMA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Trying is the first step towards failure. Homer Simpson. TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Do or do not. There is no try. Yoda. TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield Lif

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. > > Because the topic has come up on several different > forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying > answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield Life: > > What criteria would convince you that someone you > met w

[FairfieldLife] Why would you believe that someone is enlightened?

2007-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
A new topic, hopefully bias- and argumentation-free. Because the topic has come up on several different forums of which I am a member lately, with edifying answers, I pass the question along to Fairfield Life: What criteria would convince you that someone you met was enlightened? Because I'm po