Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> > Depends on which bits you look at. Most of the packages are based on >> > Fedora packages, the whole lot is built using the suse build system. >> > The NM/connman is an interesting split. It seems suse is assisting the >> > process from the build side of things but has written a NetworkManger

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>> I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch >> is below and feedback is welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> Peter >> >> +     >> +      mutter >> +      mutter-moblin >> +     > > Speaking of these two, any reason mutter-moblin does not currently > require moblin? (And when it's

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-21 Thread Michel Salim
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:57 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch > >> is below and feedback is welcome. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Peter > >> > >> + > >> + mutter > >> + mutter-moblin > >> + > > > > Speaking of these t

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > It's usually possible to have the devel packages co-exist by renaming > the new library (make it libopenal-soft.so). This may require a small > patch to any app you want to build against the new version (make it look > for libopenal-soft instead of just libopenal), but I th

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Pushing openal-soft info F-11/F-10 is a violation of the Fedora > updating policy. It's not. It's entirely acceptable to bump a soname if there's a good reason to and dependent packages WILL have to get rebuilt. It would be impossible to update something like xulrunner fo

Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jindrich Novy wrote: > Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the > noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains > the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. Wouldn't texlive-csplain-libs or texlive-csplain-bin be more compliant to ou

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Indeed. A single tomboy build obsoleted more than a dozen Mono packages > and actually got marked stable sometimes later without anyone adding > a comment. I'd blame the tomboy maintainer for the chaos there. Before you push an update to a package, you MUST check for pre

Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-21 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:10 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have > > names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..? > > Nope, it is intentional. It

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: >238Can libvdpau go in Fedora? As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a dependency to the properitary nVidia video driver which is provides by rpmfusion.org. For this reason I vote agains the inclusion of this package int

Multiline values in bodhi.template

2009-08-21 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
I'm believe before this works fine, but now I try put multiline comment into notes field like: # Description of your update notes=- New version. - Name directory in tarball sim instead of trunk. - Step to lzma source packaging. - For BUG#478341 fixing add R kdebase3-libs and got error: [pa...@x

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Vivek Shah
Picked up: 1. gquilt 2. quilt Co-maintainers are welcome. Thanks and Regards, Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:39 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: > > >238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? > > As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a > dependency to the properitary nVidia video driver which is > provides by rpmfusion.

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
On 08/20/2009 10:10 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > Apologies for the late agenda, I completely blanked out today :(. The > following are the topics for tomorrow's meeting at 17:00UTC on > #fedora-meeting on freenode: > > 244 Reconsider Moblin Feature for Fedora 12 > 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? >

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 21.08.2009 15:57, schrieb Adam Jackson: > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:39 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: >> >>> 238Can libvdpau go in Fedora? >> >> As far I understand this package itself is open sourc

Re: Audacious 2.1 coming - SONAME change

2009-08-21 Thread Hans de Goede
On 07/16/2009 02:30 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Audacious 2.1 is going to land in Rawhide soon. src.rpm updates have been comitted to Fedora package cvs/devel already. Compared with 1.5.1 this new final release changes the SONAME version of essential libraries within the audacious-libs package.

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:39 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >238  Can libvdpau go in Fedora? >> >> As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a >> dependency to the proper

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:07:47PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Indeed. A single tomboy build obsoleted more than a dozen Mono packages > > and actually got marked stable sometimes later without anyone adding > > a comment. > > I'd blame the tomboy maintainer for the ch

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:26 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > - From my point of view. This cases demostrate, that we need a > clarification about the requirements which a package has to fullfill > for inclusssion into Fedora. I don't disagree, but... > Package which are only useable if you have in

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 21.08.2009 17:10, schrieb Adam Jackson: > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:26 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > >> - From my point of view. This cases demostrate, that we need a >> clarification about the requirements which a package has to >> fullfill for inc

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:51 +0200, drago01 wrote: > Well S3 does, but there driver isn't open either. > But it proves that non nvidia implementations are possible. S3's driver implements VAAPI, not VDPAU. I already have a package review for libva submitted (mentioned it yesterday). -- Adam Will

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:51 +0200, drago01 wrote: > >> Well S3 does, but there driver isn't open either. >> But it proves that non nvidia implementations are possible. > > S3's driver implements VAAPI, not VDPAU. I already have a package rev

Re: Orphaning some packages

2009-08-21 Thread Christian Krause
Hi, sali...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > On these other packages, I'm reducing my involvement to being > co-maintainer, and new package owners are already selected when > ownership was released: > banshee [spot] If there is help needed, I'd like to volunteer co-maintaining banshee. I'm using bansh

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 18:22 +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:51 +0200, drago01 wrote: > > > >> Well S3 does, but there driver isn't open either. > >> But it proves that non nvidia implementations are possible. > > > > S3's

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Till Maas wrote: > I'd blame the bad workflow and the unexpected beheaviour of bodhi. Btw. > all your steps are not documented in the Package Update Howto[0] and are > probably not valid anymore, since the auto obsoletion is disabled now. > But I do not really know how Bodhi would behave now. The

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: >> Indeed. A single tomboy build obsoleted more than a dozen Mono packages >> and actually got marked stable sometimes later without anyone adding >> a comment. > > I'd blame the tomboy maintainer for the chaos there. Be

Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Norbert Preining wrote: > So you are packaging each an every tlp into one rpm. Wowww. > > Well, that makes many things easier, and at the same time also > complicated. Many packages. In Debian we couldn't do that, adding sooo > many packages in one go. That was how rel-eng and FPC explicitly

FESCo meeting summary for 20090821

2009-08-21 Thread Jon Stanley
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-21/fedora-meeting.2009-08-21-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-21/fedora-meeting.2009-08-21-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-21/fedora-meeting.2009

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: > Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single > package obsolete a complete group update? > That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about wh

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:13:34PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >drago01 wrote: >> Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single >> package obsolete a complete group update? >> That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. > >It's broken (we've had some fun with that

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > drago01 wrote: >> Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single >> package obsolete a complete group update? >> That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. > > It's broken (we've had some fun with that with th

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Robinson
>>> Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single >>> package obsolete a complete group update? >>> That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. >> >> It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, >> we learned to be careful about what

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:13:34 +0200, Kevin wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single > > package obsolete a complete group update? > > That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. > > It's broken (we've had some fun with that with t

Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jerry James
Would someone who has editing rights to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Emacs please do a global search and replace: %{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages to %{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages/lisp In particular, be sure that %{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages/site-start.d gets changed to %{_data

popcorn sound with kernel 2.6.29.6

2009-08-21 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
Hello there, I am experiencing some random popcorn sound while playing mp3 and while assisting flash based webinars with the kernel-2.6.29.6. However I am not experiencing this with kernel-2.6.29.5. By random I mean, I don't get this popcorn sound everytime I play the same mp3 and at the same tim

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JJ" == Jerry James writes: JJ> Would someone who has editing rights to JJ> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Emacs please do a global JJ> search and replace: Could we have some explanation of why these changes are needed? Have these directories changed location recently? Are ther

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Could we have some explanation of why these changes are needed?  Have > these directories changed location recently?  Are there versions of > Fedora where these changes will not apply?  What about RHEL/EPEL? No, the XEmacs locations ha

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jerry James wrote: > that it would be taken care of.  Ah, perhaps it was.  Item #7 in the > Executive Guidelines on the wiki page gets it right. Now that I look closer, the text gets it right everywhere. It's just the spec file samples that get it wrong. So forge

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Certainly the text not agreeing with the templates is something we need to fix. I've changed four references of xemacs/site-packages to xemacs/site-packages/lisp in two specfile templates. Please double-check that everything is correct. - J< -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list

Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs

2009-08-21 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Certainly the text not agreeing with the templates is something we need > to fix.  I've changed four references of xemacs/site-packages to > xemacs/site-packages/lisp in two specfile templates.  Please > double-check that everything is

Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Aurelien Bompard
I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - agave -- Generate a variety of colorschemes from a single starting color - apachetop -- A top-like display of Apache logs - basket -- Taking care of your ideas - blobby -- Volley-ball game - cryptopp -- Public domain C++

Re: popcorn sound with kernel 2.6.29.6

2009-08-21 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 21:41 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > I am experiencing some random popcorn sound while playing mp3 and > while assisting flash based webinars with the kernel-2.6.29.6. Can you reproduce if for example running "pasuspender totem " ? Jon. -- fedora-devel-list mailing lis

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Aurelien Bompard
Whoops, I forgot a few more : - libifp -- A general-purpose library-driver for iRiver's iFP portable audio players - libkexif -- Allow Kipi plugins to extract EXIF information - libkipi -- Common plugin infrastructure for KDE image applications - libvisual & libvisual-plugins -- Abstraction libra

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Miller
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: > > - apachetop -- A top-like display of Apache log I'd like to take this one, I use it quite often. I'll be taking ownership in Fedora pkgdb here in a moment.

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Miller
You might not have gotten around to it, but it appears you only orphaned the devel branch of apachetop, wasn't sure if you want to continue to maintain the stable branches but no longer beyond that or completely orphan? -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Aurelien wrote: > I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: > > - taglib -- Audio Meta-Data Library I'll sign up for that one... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/l

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Aurelien Bompard
> You might not have gotten around to it, but it appears you only > orphaned the devel branch of apachetop, wasn't sure if you want to > continue to maintain the stable branches but no longer beyond that or > completely orphan? I'm not sure what the right way is. If you want to maintain it, I'll b

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Vivek Shah
Hi, I would like to take up pdftohtml. I could only see the devel branch in pkgdb without the Fedora 10 and 11 branch. I will be taking up ownership of the devel branch. Thanks and Regards, Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Vivek Shah
Hi Aurélien, Picked up stow. If you want I can manage the Fedora-10 and 11 branches as well. In case you orphan them, I will pick them up as well. Thanks and Regards, Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Vivek Shah
Grabbed tiger and agave as well. Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday 21 August 2009 04:34:24 pm Aurelien Bompard wrote: > - ulogd -- The userspace logging daemon for netfilter I'm taking this one. Thanks, -Steve -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > - qca2 -- Qt Cryptographic Architecture I'll take this one - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqPE+IACgkQiPi+MRHG3qR5BACdF9QP6V0LSJPnDtLklv3FSUIG roUAoL8FVAQGEyZtbMQtPrjLLRsXpgM4 =Smit -END PGP

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Robinson
> Hi All, > > I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch > is below and feedback is welcome. This is updated with the current components that are in rawhide. All the other packages should be pulled in by deps. Cheers, Peter --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig 2009-08-20 17

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Friday 21 August 2009 01:41:09 pm Aurelien Bompard wrote: > Whoops, I forgot a few more : > > - libifp -- A general-purpose library-driver for iRiver's iFP portable > audio players I have a package or two that uses this, I'll take it. Regards, -- Conrad Meyer -- fedora-devel-list mailing l

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Aurelien Bompard [21/08/2009 22:59] : > > - perl-Unicode-Map -- Perl module for mapping charsets from and to utf16 > unicode > - perl-Unicode-Map8 -- Mapping table between 8-bit chars and Unicode for > Perl > - perl-Unicode-MapUTF8 -- Conversions to and from arbitrary character sets > and UTF8

Upcoming scheduled tasks

2009-08-21 Thread John Poelstra
Name Start End Stage & Sync Alpha to Mirrors Thu 2009-08-20 Tue 2009-08-25 Alpha Export Control Reporting Fri 2009-08-21 Fri 2009-08-21 Allow Pre-branch Fedora 13 Tue 2009-

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Christian Krause
Hi Aurelien, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: > - xbindkeys -- Binds keys or mouse buttons to shell commands under X. I took this one. If you like I can also take care of F11 and F10. So if you orphan them, I'll take ownership

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Pitfalls remain nevertheless. F10 ktorrent got marked stable with the > KDE4 buildroot override packages still sitting in updates-testing. Yeah, indeed, the maintainer screwed up big time there. :-/ He didn't talk to us at all before pushing that ktorrent update. :-( He

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Aurelien Bompard wrote: > - gwenview -- Simple image viewer for KDE This one is obsolete, gwenview is part of kdegraphics these days. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-21 Thread Milos Jakubicek
Hi, On 21.8.2009 22:41, Aurelien Bompard wrote: - python-dialog -- Python interface to the Unix dialog utility I've taken this one, if you want I can also grab the F10/F11 branches. Regards, Milos -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailma