lly just suggested kerneloops.org, but for userspace
> apps. It would be very nice to have such a beast! Doing statistical
> analysis by extracting the ABRT reports from BZ would just be horrible.
Is the existing CBI project helpful in this case?
http://lwn.net/Articles/362777/
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aches this point though, it complains there are no
translation files despite there being translation files!
The build is producing the following
mkdir
-p
/home/paul/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/monodevelop-boo-2.2-1.fc13.i386/usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/BooBinding/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/
cp '../bui
.
It's not a fix upstream will listen to (as aren't the 64 bit lib fixes -
don't ask, I've been trying for ages to get them to accept them).
I'm going to have a go at building the other monodevelop plugins over
the next week and get them into rawhide Assuming I still can by
t
d and see which one is killing the
system and then feed that back to the kernel bods.
The current rawhide kernel (2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686) is no go on the
laptop.
Question is, how do I configure the spec file to use the latest kernel
tarball?
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Thoughts folks?
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Fixed. Grab it from koji now or wait until tomorrows rawhide update.
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which is what is being picked up on when -pkg:monodevelop is referenced
in the make file. It's not a problem with MD or Mono.Cecil really...
Oh well. I'll look at it (again) on the 28th.
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Descriptio
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Here's the conversation followed by a request from me...
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul
wrote:
> I've got MD-2.2 installed from Fedora rawhide and am trying to build
the
> MD debugger plugin. Problem is that it's looking for Mono.Cecil in the
> MD addins.
ied the window to get
rid of it while on my call and forgot about it.
Later, while just doing some file editing, a (gnome power management?)
popup appears with a power button on the left side, stating
"Paul Wouters is logged on. System will shut down in 60 seconds". Looking
at the popup
be for rawhide?
Correct :-)
Uploading now... Watch this space!
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and this time, I've added a new subpackage for the preview of C# 4.0
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glibc problem.
S, don't ask if anyone else has seen it or report it under the wrong
application then? Sounds like a cunning plan to me...
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e ogg, mp3 or wav files, they all
fail and die with the same error.
I'm using pulseaudio-0.9.21-3.fc13 and the
2.6.32-0.65.rc8.git5.fc13.i686.PAE kernel
PAM fires up and reports all the audio devices are running fine.
Any ideas?
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> Election Results for FESCo - Fedora 13 Cycle
>
> Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 UTC
>
> Nominations:
>
>
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 06:09:42PM +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> Fri, 2009-12-18 at 13:06 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 12:19 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >
> > > Information:
> > >
> > > At close of voting there were:
>
. Robert Scheck (rsc)663
6. Justin M. Forbes (jforbes) 535
7. Richard June (rjune) 415
As such, Adam Jackson, Christoph Wickert, Peter Jones, and Matthew
Garrett are elected to FESCo for a full 2 release term.
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in stepping up to do that work.
I.e. money meet mouth, mouth likewise, you mean? :)
I'll try poke at it later in 2010. I'm more a C programmer than a
python programmer, so I'd rather look at stuff like things like the
SG_IO interface (which Peter Jones pointed me at in private) t
now, which I'm sure must
be acceptable.
Anyway.. I'll try look into this again later next year, and see if I
can fix the "bugs" (in the RFE sense for yum, libvirt) I found. Was
simply hoping to get other people interested in 32-on-64, no more or
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h it think it's running on).
I didn't mean to complain or whinge or intend for people to think I
had silly expectations of this being supported already. Apologies if
I did and/or if that's how it came across.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote:
My data-point is that I ran an x86-64 kernel on i386 F10 for a few
months until I got tired of yum not being able to update kernel
packages. The kernel side apparently works fine AFAICT. The .1% is
yum.
Oh, I don't quite remember the details,
few
months until I got tired of yum not being able to update kernel
packages. The kernel side apparently works fine AFAICT. The .1% is
yum.
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote:
I would like to have the advantages of *both* 32 and 64bit, as and where each
one is appropriate. I'd like to be able to use that 30-60% of memory on more
VMs, e.g., rather than bigger gnome-*, etc. processes.
Ah, and to get the memory benefits
e as if it's an either-or choice between 32 OR
64, which was not my intention at all.
And again, far from being some incredibly difficult thing that I'm
asking for, the support is pretty much 99.9% there..
Anyway :)
Sorry for extending this thread, but it seemed I miscommunicated in
onally think the model used by many Unixes from the 90s makes a
lot of sense - 32bit userpace by default, 64bit kernel, 64bit for a
select few applications that actually need the benefits of x86_64
(memory/bit more performance), but hey..
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 05:01:56PM -0500, Mike Bonnet wrote:
> On 12/14/2009 04:50 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:32:56PM -0500, Eric Christensen wrote:
> >> When trying to install astronomy-bookmarks I get the error that
> >> "astronomy
why it
> would conflict. Does anyone know?
[p...@scarlett ~]$ repoquery -q --provides astronomy-bookmarks
astronomy-bookmarks = 1-6.fc12
system-bookmarks
[p...@scarlett ~]$ repoquery -q --provides fedora-bookmarks
fedora-bookmarks = 11-2
system-bookmarks
They both provide 'system-
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:33 +, Paul Jakma wrote:
You're missing the point.
If I put you in front of 2 identical machines, one running 32bit and
one 64bit software, would you be able to tell which one was which,
from the interactive perfor
reason to
32bit (memory usage). And from that we somehow got into a "x86_64
versus x86" thread of doom, with (IMHO) much missing of the general
point.
Anyway, enough.
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Where do you go to get anorexia?
erence, sure, run them as
64bit.
(Also, please assume in any replies that I have a modicum of clue
about the low-level technical details between i386 and x86_64).
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magnetic interferance from money/credit cards
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Whether that's the case for most applications, I do not know however.
It would though be interesting for someone to go measure this,
especially in the aggregate.
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I know that for some reason PHP on 64 bit arches bloats up
significantly (at least older versions), but that's the only major
difference I've seen.
Pointer rich data structures, likely..
Anyway, as I don't intend to contribute anything, I'll try stop
making noise.
Aside to the
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote:
b) The amount of code on your system that is CPU bound and/or
memory-bound due to register pressure, to an extent that the x64
faster AFAICT, and there's plenty of experience to say that most
software is far from CPU bound or memory bound.
her KVM x86_64 doesn't work for i386 VMs - annoying).
So personally I think x86_64-pure is unrealistic and, independently,
I think 32-on-64 makes sense, but hey. :)
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percentage of code is that an appreciable advantage?
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wrt kernel
updates.
For a lot of tasks, you simply do not need 64-bit pointers and a
64-bit process address space. Both executable code and in-memory
data structures tend to be smaller on 32-bit.
Indeed.
It would be nice if i386-userspace/x64-kernel were officially
support..
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> > Jef, I'll help with istanbul. If anyone else out there is considering
> > doing so, please feel free to team up with me.
>
> Other than revelati
ple in
areas well served by translators are willing to help see this project
through. It's time to pull together, guys, and see if we can help the
translators who give so much across the whole Fedora Project.
* * *
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tools#Website
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Jef, I'll help with istanbul. If anyone else out there is considering
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module which finds the oldest
> > available version of a package in a repo.
>
> The separate Everything tree that does not get obsoleted is required
> in some form for GPL compliance, with respect to the ISO images that
> we ship. Any new solution would have to prese
ine now.
>
> So the answers are now free for public consumption on this page:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/F13_Questionnaire
Thorsten, thanks for the time and effort you put into this. We'll
make sure to notify the community that if they want to see results for
a questi
tworking for my virt guests; there was a plan to support
this in NetworkManager in F-12
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerBridging) but
nothing seems to have happened with that, though I see there is a
similar feature proposed for F-13
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features
vices
Looks like it. Does a koji scratch build succeed?
> If so, should I just close the bug?
I'd wait until Matt's builders are fixed or you might just end up
getting another bug raised.
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riginal problem that Bug 510183 was reported about is indeed
fixed, but along with the fix came an enhancement to use separate
instances of /dev/pts in the chroots where the kernel supported it, and
this enhancement is broken. As mentioned in Comment 10 of the bug,
commenting out two lines mock/backe
ther.
FWIW, you could configure this for your own account by editing your
bugzilla email preferences to not send you mail when the Cc: list changes.
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t of the Fedora community giving
unwanted marching orders to the other parts of the Fedora community is
not an optimal result. (Where that's happened before on rare
occasions, it's never been a good thing.)
I'm not saying that FESCo shouldn't ha
I just repeated what you
said, not sure if I caught the nuance.)
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as also rocking, with the added bonus of 3D support. I'm really
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atching /var/run/mod_.* with suitable
permissions and include that directory in your package then it should
get the right SELinux context set so that it will work out of the box.
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:52:07PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 09/30/2009 01:47 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:11:56PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >> After further review... by a number of people, its been decided
> >> the /etc/nfsmount.
on -- consult with
the Docs team at #fedora-docs for more information.)
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Make changes that cause other software to have to make changes
I thought this was a particularly good idea.
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:12:03PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >>>
bfound...
I think that what we need, Steve, is some sort of information about
what testing has happened up to this point that satisfies FESCo that
this change the equivalent of moving the needle from 99% complete to
100% complete, as opposed to moving from 90% complete to 91% complete
(with testing being t
g forward.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points
We'll need a heads-up to the Marketing list if there's a reversion
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On 21/09/09 19:16, Warren Togami wrote:
On 09/21/2009 11:41 AM, Paul Howarth wrote:
On 21/09/09 16:33, Warren Togami wrote:
Should we obsolete and remove perl-Mail-SPF-Query? Apparently
perl-Mail-SPF obsoleted perl-Mail-SPF-Query ~3 years ago.
Really? Says who? It certainly doesn't pr
ckage according to repoquery that
requires perl(Mail::SPF::Query).
What is to be gained by doing this other than a miniscule saving in
mirror space and metadata size?
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re, and it kind of escaped my attention.
I am not sure what happened to Paul (accident? fired? three month vacation? ??)
but there appears to be no active author/creator/maintainer since late June or
since about three months ago.
I've been active with Fedora, just not on this issue. An
piled under previous versions of Mono not running under the 2.6 svn
branch yet, so it should be good and smooth.
I would recommend though that maintainers of applications reliant on
mono recompile them against 2.6 when it hits rawhide just to be safe.
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:07:46PM +0530, Aditya Patawari wrote:
>I was just reading the mails about the Fedora print magazine. There
> Paul Frields said that "In the longer term we really do want to move
>away from the Install DVD to a Live DVD that has more
>rele
x27;s a regression in a
well-publicized feature. (The maintainers are already aware of the
problem and working on it, I'd just like to make sure it's not lost in
the shuffle.)
That criterion is worth considering generally for blocker status. But
maybe it needs some
t;
> Ugh, this should be:
>
> Requires: bar%{isa}
>
> (as I pointed out, foo%{isa} will always work in modern Fedora
> (F10+)).
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
And you probably mean %{_isa} rather than %{isa} too.
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Visit this URL and add what you'll be working on:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009#Hackfests
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decision not to provide either should
definitely get a mention in the release notes. Just edit the wiki
here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Desktop_Beat
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2.2 (full version) is due in October sometime.
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What to do with this then?
(I know, this package is dead, and I will likely orphan it soon. :-) )
Try here:
http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/src/obsolete/
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:53:54 -0600
Philip Prindeville wrote:
> Paul Howarth wrote:
> > On 03/09/09 17:07, Philip Prindeville wrote:
> >
> >> Paul Howarth wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:
> >>>
On 03/09/09 17:07, Philip Prindeville wrote:
Paul Howarth wrote:
On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:
Seems to be an rpm versioning issue:
[r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --rebuild
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
State
10-x86_64 --clean" isn't adequate. Perhaps
"mock --nuke" would be useful here following an version update to zap
stale state?
Or should I just uninstall and reinstall mock?
I'd try this first:
# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
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ome
> selected packages have dependency problems -- here they are. they have
> been deselected, press OK again to retry".
I might be wrong, but I could swear that PK acted like this in my
Rawhide machine the other day when there was a particular deps problem
at the mir
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:34:24 +0200
Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take
> over:
>
...
> - perl-Jcode -- Perl extension interface for converting Japanese
text
I've taken that one.
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> split out one of the packages into a number of smaller ones.
I'm not sure if this would make sense from your perspective Peter, but
is it worthwhile to have a Moblin component in the comps file that
delivers some set of packages (albeit without a browser, given what
you mentioned above),
kety. Additionally I
> don't see any need to tie talking points and marketing directly to the
> feature list in a 1:1 because we may miss things.
That's fairly dead on, Mike. We can include an item beyond the
feature list if there's a compelling story to tell the appropri
. To
do this, we develop additional material like podcast and print
interviews with the people responsible for or involved with the
features. Developing that material takes time and energy so it
behooves us to get an early start, shortly after feature freeze since
the list is complete at that point
h-2.27.5-1.fc11.i586 needs 43MB on the
> /var/tmp/imgcreate-rScTyr/install_root filesystem', (9,
> '/var/tmp/imgcreate-rScTyr/install_root', 44228608L)), ('installing
> package gnome-bluetooth-libs-2.27.5-1.fc11.i586 needs 43MB on the
> /var/tmp/imgcreate-rScTyr/
e a hospitable place for developers to discuss code,
features, and packaging, we need to get conversations to the places
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aised point and it would be useful to get some good
> comparisons.
James has written about these before:
http://illiterat.livejournal.com/5043.html
http://illiterat.livejournal.com/5218.html
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to test this if one does not have the luxury of
re-installing one's desktop to F12 (from F11)?
ObPA: I wish client volume state was kept PA side - not enjoying the
frequent resets of volume in clients in F11. Bring back system-side
state for volume please..
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d news. Thanks for doing it. Are these test packages available
> > publicly?
>
> You'll have to ask Jeroen how he handles testing. Once he has a patchset
> suitable for an F-11 update, he submits it for review and then we go from
> there. The idea being that once we roll the u
ls have been available for many releases now.
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; chipsets.
> - Really add patch.
> - Fix patch to not break nouveau.
Sorry, nouveau is still broken due the kernel. Works fine under
2.6.31-0.81.rc3.git4.fc12.i686.PAE, but nothing since. I've a GF7600 on
this box.
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though, receives the famous betanag up front, which basically tells
them "I'm a pre-release, are you sure you want to install me?"
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package data should be frozen pretty hard for the last couple of
weeks?
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x27;t have the time to figure it out (as it
> appears it's going to take some investigation).
I wrote this a while ago and finally moved it to a better name where
more people could find it:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_build_a_Rawhide_ISO_image_for_testing
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> Could you try running "gparted" as root after plugging USB drive?
> For me it triggers some kind of scan, after which proper HAL-based mount
> proccess works.
Still says i'm not authorised to mount the drive...
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to create a directory in /home/paul, su, mount /dev/sd*1 newdir and then
can only do things as su to that directory, but as paul for taking from
it.
TTFN
Paul
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Hi,
As of next week, I'll be starting the weekly builds of mono from svn and
putting them into rawhide. It is my intention to push 2.4.2.2 into F11
in about a months time (it should hit rawhide tomorrow).
TTFN
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se of the new distro
with package updates, and you reboot when you're ready. There's
nothing in preupgrade to deal with repartitioning, though, it's purely
for an in-place upgrade. Downloading happens in the background, and
you reboot when you're ready to run the transactio
quot; ] ; then
> PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
> fi
> as default - so this dir gets added automatically when does exist.
> I'm generally +1 for changing the default that way - as it would not
> change anything for users without that directory.
I would only want this at
creating the child process
for this terminal". OK, xterm just sits there, but I'm guessing it's
suffering from the same problem.
Any ideas when normality will be returned?
TTFN
Paul
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You've missed perl-Term-ReadLine-Gnu (and I wonder how many other
packages?) but that one's OK as it's GPL+.
Paul.
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o be found there for content, but I'm not sure it
captures everything we hope to include in the future.
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ive like "Documentation" would be good.
It's possible that the Docs team might produce some content that would
be useful here as well. Or alternately, "Books and Guides"?
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m is working on
providing an easy way for people to retrieve and install
language-specific documentation such as a user guide which would
integrate into the desktop menu system. (I'm pretty sure that
integration is desktop environment-neutral.) The confluence of those
two developments might
in F-11 and newer uses a sha256sum and mot md5sum the rpm is
> > incompatible. you would need to get the rpm from F-10 updates to
> > install it
> >
> >
> > Dennis
> >
>
> Grrr... that would cause all sorts of other things to be brought in.
>
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