Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> >> Of course there is. If you want to help, call it > GNU/Linux, or > >> GNU+Linux. That's all we ask for. uname -o returns GNU/Linux that is enough. I won't do it, it speaks for itself. > > > What will I gain if I do that? Do I get a prize? > > Feeling good and making for a better world

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a war. Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. A war that started back in 1983, and whose proponents have suffered many threats and losses, but also several wins. One of the greatest threats these days are people wh

stop kernel messages from splashing on the console

2008-07-28 Thread Vikram Goyal
Hello, I am getting these kernel messages on the consoles which I want to avoid as many times I have to login through them as the system runs in level 3. I have edited the /etc/syslog.conf as: #kern.* /dev/console kern.*/var/log/kern_messages # Everybody gets emerg

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > It is a war. > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. A war > that started > back in 1983, and whose proponents have suffered many > threats and > losses, but also several wins. > > One of the greatest threats these days are people who just > don't care > about freedom, who jus

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > It is a war. > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. A war > that started > back in 1983, and whose proponents have suffered many > threats and > losses, but also several wins. > > One of the greatest threats these days are people who just > don't care > about freedom, who jus

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 13:32 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > Björn Persson wrote: > > > >> If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what > >> you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the > >> target domain to find their own name servers and send a quer

My own private GNU / Linux thread

2008-07-28 Thread Andrew Kelly
Yes, it's mine, but I'm happy to share. Well, at least as long as it doesn't become tainted by any self-important bluster. I've been in very close contact with a scandinavian physicist who has proof that the number of strange attractors these threads are generating is beginning to affect the eff

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:36:53 -0300 Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is a war. > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of having to put up wit

Excel to CSV batch

2008-07-28 Thread Jonathan Allen
Hi List, Does anyone know of any software that converts Excel format spreadsheets into CSV files in a command-line batch mode ? Obviously OpenOffice can do this but requires an interactive load/save cycle - I'm trying to do this in an email-triggered shell script. Jonathan -- fedora-list maili

Re: DNS Attacks

2008-07-28 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:58 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote: > I've made the decision to surf the Internet using only a sketch pad > and sticks of medium charcoal for the next several months, until this > is all resolved. Last time something like this happened my cousin > caught a trojan that got into is

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Björn Persson
måndagen den 28 juli 2008 skrev Antonio Olivares: > > If the cow is completely free in the same sense as in the > > GPL, then it > > can't have been given as a gift, > > Why can't it be given as a gift, Because it can't be moved. If the cow is free in the sense of the GPL, then it is information,

Re: Excel to CSV batch

2008-07-28 Thread julien brule
Jonathan Allen wrote: Hi List, Hi, usually, i'm using http://chicago.sourceforge.net/xlhtml/ cheers julien Does anyone know of any software that converts Excel format spreadsheets into CSV files in a command-line batch mode ? Obviously OpenOffice can do this but requires an interactive

difference between FEDORA and RHEL 5

2008-07-28 Thread ksh shrm
I have RHEL 5 DVD disk and I have another option of downloading FEDORA. Since I can customize RHEL, can I install RHEL on my desktop with customization. or Should I download FEDORA and then install. It's a desktop and I will not use as server but I'll browse net or sometimes connect to a LAN. Pl

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 09:39 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have yet to find out how you can configure a computer to print to > printers distributed by a remote print serve as well as a local printer > without editing its cupsd.conf file. Any suggestions? Use CUPS browsing (Aaron, I'm sure we've b

Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions

2008-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: You only have to agree to the GPL requirements if you need the permissions for modification and distribution the GPL grants. Who forfeited the opportunity to distribute gnothing under the GPL by violating the license, then? Under your theory that the GPL imposes restri

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: > We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that > Tim will sound off in a few days. :-) This is a samba bug, introduced by the upstream CUPS maintainer when he added proxy authentication support to smbspool: https://

cannot compile the module

2008-07-28 Thread fedora
Hi every i unfortunately bought years ago a DLINK Air-Plus DWL-650+ wirlesss card containing the TI acx chip, the specs of which are secret. there are two ways to create a work-around to make that card work in linux: 1. the acx project. this project has no installable package for fedora 9 2.

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 13:58 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that > > Tim will sound off in a few days. > > :-) > > This is a samba bug, introduced by the upstream CUPS maintainer

Re: difference between FEDORA and RHEL 5

2008-07-28 Thread Reuben D. Budiardja
On Monday 28 July 2008 8:15:00 am ksh shrm wrote: > I have RHEL 5 DVD disk and I have another option of downloading FEDORA. > > Since I can customize RHEL, can I install RHEL on my desktop with > customization. > or Should I download FEDORA and then install. The short summary: Fedora is aimed mor

Re: pulseaudio does not start after kernel update

2008-07-28 Thread the bx
I went to the original Fedora repository and re-installed pulse audio. Didn't work. Then I did yum update pulseaudio. No luck either. I went to the sound tester applet and clicked to test sound. It came through. It said Intel something. What is the source of the problem? On Sun, Jul 27, 2008

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 06:22 -0700, Craig White wrote: > OK - so next time, instead of removing 'AuthInfoRequired negotiate' I > would be better off changing it to 'AuthInfoRequired none' - got it. No, I don't think that will have any effect; the smb backend will still reset it to 'negotiate'. The

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:35 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 06:22 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > OK - so next time, instead of removing 'AuthInfoRequired negotiate' I > > would be better off changing it to 'AuthInfoRequired none' - got it. > > No, I don't think that will have any ef

Re: Do I get a copy of my mail to fedora-list?

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 13:48 +1000, Simon Slater wrote: > On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 18:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I set up a Search Folder in Evolution to > > show my posts in context with the rest of the thread. Works fine. > > > Could you elaborate on that? It's nothing magical. Mail c

Re: Export and Import Printer configuration

2008-07-28 Thread Tim
TL: >> Okay, right now I don't see any printer on my laptop which is on the same >> LAN >> with the printer server. The printer server runs RHEL 4, and it's set to >> share its printer and allow anyone to use it. No firewall between these >> machine inside the LAN. Could it be because the print

getting sound back

2008-07-28 Thread Mark Haney
My kids informed me late last night when I got back from the UK that one of the desktop systems lost sound over the weekend. They rebooted it and it came back up fine, but as I was tinkering this morning I didn't see a particular service to restart that might have fixed that. I was looking fo

Network printer setup, Vol 53, Issue 249

2008-07-28 Thread Vincent Onelli
>9. Re: Network printer setup (max) > -- > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:25:09 -0400 > From: max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Network printer setup > To: For users of Fedora > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO

why two sets of output for every yum package query?

2008-07-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i don't recall seeing this behaviour before: $ yum info coreutils Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name : coreutils Arch : i386 Version: 6.10 Release: 27.fc9 Size : 10 M Repo : installed Summary: The GNU core utilities: a set of tools com

Re: Excel to CSV batch

2008-07-28 Thread Vnpenguin
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi List, > > Does anyone know of any software that converts Excel format spreadsheets > into CSV files in a command-line batch mode ? Obviously OpenOffice can > do this but requires an interactive load/save cycle - I'm t

Re: getting sound back

2008-07-28 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Monday 28 July 2008 09:58:56 am Mark Haney wrote: > I was looking for something related to pulseaudio, but didn't see anything > that stuck out as being such Well, after making sure the volume is not way down ;) check if pulseaudio is running with: ps -ef | grep pulse If not, start it as y

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 23:38 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > What is a soapbox? I am thinking you mean a soap opera, or somthing > along those lines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapbox poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listi

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: It is a war. Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. No, it is really a war against users where one set of developers have pit themselves irreconcilably against all others making any sort of cooperation impossible. Participating in this war can only red

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > What is a soapbox? I am thinking you mean a soap > opera, or somthing > > along those lines. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapbox > > poc > > -- I did not know that! Thank you for sharing knowledge. I learned something new today :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mail

Re: why two sets of output for every yum package query?

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i don't recall seeing this behaviour before: > > $ yum info coreutils > Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit > Installed Packages > Name : coreutils > Arch : i386 > Version: 6.10 > Release: 27.fc9 > Size : 10 M >

Re: why two sets of output for every yum package query?

2008-07-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > i don't recall seeing this behaviour before: > > > > $ yum info coreutils > > Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit > > Installed Packages > > Name : coreutils > > Arch : i386

RE: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:23 AM > To: For users of Fedora > Subject: Re: that old GNU/Linux argument > > Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > >> It is a war. > > > > Indeed. A war for

Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?

2008-07-28 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. With the conversion to HDTV in our local market now underway, I need to be able to tell xine what channels there are. Unforch, the dvbscan -fx -o .xine/channels.conf doesn't regenerate the file with the new 8VSB signals that have

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread John W. Linville
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 04:25:55PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I have read some good news(I hope), that Atheros will be releasing > some new drivers for Atheros based wireless. I hope that it will be > better than the ath5k which was ported from OpenBSD and then fixed! > How soon can we see

Re: difference between FEDORA and RHEL 5

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> I have RHEL 5 DVD disk and I have another option of > downloading FEDORA. > > Since I can customize RHEL, can I install RHEL on my > desktop with > customization. > or Should I download FEDORA and then install. Use Fedora, if you use RHEL to just browse the net or connect to a LAN it is not wor

Re: getting sound back

2008-07-28 Thread Mark Haney
Jorge Fábregas wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008 09:58:56 am Mark Haney wrote: I was looking for something related to pulseaudio, but didn't see anything that stuck out as being such Well, after making sure the volume is not way down ;) check if pulseaudio is running with: ps -ef | grep pulse

Re: why two sets of output for every yum package query?

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:27 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > i don't recall seeing this behaviour before: > > > > > > $ yum info coreutils > > > Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit

Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > 2nd send, no echo came back in about 12 hours now. Nonetheless, we already saw it. Before reposting something, please check the list archives. That's a reliable way of knowing whether your message was distributed, even if you

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Mon, 7/28/08, John W. Linville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: John W. Linville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "For users of Fedora" > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 8:32 AM > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008

Moved hard drive, can't get display set properly... Intel Graphics card... Xorg.conf

2008-07-28 Thread linuxguy
Good morning, all. My laptop died on the weekend. (HP, 4th time in the last year !) So I pulled the hard drive and installed it in a Dell desktop machine. Everything works fine except that I can never get the video/display working properly with this setup. The laptop used an nvida board and I

Re: getting sound back

2008-07-28 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:33 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > Jorge Fábregas wrote: > > On Monday 28 July 2008 09:58:56 am Mark Haney wrote: > >> I was looking for something related to pulseaudio, but didn't see anything > >> that stuck out as being such > > > > Well, after making sure the volume is not

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:23:04 -0500 Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > >> It is a war. > > > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. > > No, it is really a war against users where one set of developers have > pit themselves irreconcilably agains

Re: getting sound back

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
> > Fortunately, my kids are savvy enough to check the sound first then > > check the cables. All that was good. I wasn't expecting pulseaudio not > > to be a service I could just restart on the fly. But I'll check it out > > when I get home. > > pulseaudio is run in user space and not a

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > > It is a war. > > > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. > > Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of > having to put > up with you. > > Alan Why me? What have I done wrong? Let me remind you, in case you have forgotten, you fought well and fought hard

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It is a war. > > > > > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. > > > > Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of > > having to put > > up with you. > > > > Alan > > Why m

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
John W. Linville redhat.com> writes: > automatic release after just +3 in Bodhi?!?!? Bodhi's development version has changed to make this more flexible, it just hasn't hit production yet. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redha

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> "I apologize for this, but I simply do not want to > agree to name the > system $ uname -o, it is my right and freedom to simply say > Linux. " > > Does it make any difference to that right if you laugh at > Alexandra and > ignore him ? > I do not know if it would make a difference. I do not

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Antonio Olivares yahoo.com> writes: > Why do I ask, because ath5k (does not work)/(did not work) for me, I had to > blacklist it :( Isn't ath9k for different (newer) devices than ath5k? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.c

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of having to put > up with you. ... says a member of the opposing army with a vested interest in having his faction prevail. Hey, you haven't stopped calling the GNU OS Linux, why shoul

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > Why do I ask, because ath5k (does not work)/(did not > work) for me, I had to > > blacklist it :( > > Isn't ath9k for different (newer) devices than ath5k? > > Kevin Kofler > > -- I believe it is, but here you can find out more information http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Driver

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:43:36 -0300 Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 28, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please take your war elsewhere. The civilians are tired of having to put > > up with you. > > ... says a member of the opposing army with a vested interest i

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I care about freedom, I just do not care for the GNU attaching > itself to Linux That's a decision that Linux developers made very early on in their project. They just decided to deny it to fool you. And yet, you side with them. >

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:32:12 -0400, "John W. Linville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previously I would have said you could expect ath9k in Fedora nearly > as soon as it is upstream, so nearly immediately. Unfortunately, > a combination of unfortunate bugs and questionable changes to > how

change default language (localization)

2008-07-28 Thread David Hláčik
Hello all, i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to switch to "Czech Language". How can i do that : 1) I want to have same packages like if i have choosed Czech Language during install 2) also i have problem with Firefox and setting fonts for "Czech - cs_CZ language

Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Then what? What does this have to do with the GPL? > That the GPL is very hard to enforce. Why do you single out the GPL? Why do you *think* it's any different from any of the other Free Software licenses, or even non-Free Software

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
Please take this off list. And if you are not representing a Red Hat viewpoint perhaps you would also care to post from a personal email address. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who? Anyone who did something contrary to those terms. And who did, in the presented scenario? One of the four must have, because they did something that you claim to be impossible under the GPL. John A. Hacker develops, from scratch,

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:57:53AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Note that some discussions on LWN concerning whether kernel bugs with security > implications were being clearly labelled as such, suggests that the -97 > kernel included security fixes. As such pushing those updates out a bit fast

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Feeling good and making for a better world, is there a better prize >> than that? :-) > How will that make for a better world? Teaching people to value their freedom will make for more products that respect everyone's freedom. Avoi

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > I care about freedom, I just do not care for the GNU > attaching > > itself to Linux > > That's a decision that Linux developers made very early > on in their > project. They just decided to deny it to fool you. And > yet, you side > with them. That is how I knew about it, When I used my fir

Re: OT: Atheros releases free Linux driver for Its 802.11n Devices

2008-07-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
John W. Linville redhat.com> writes: > And -86? And -55? Seems like there was another as well.. 2 others... -55 was the WPA problem (the bad wireless-fixups patch), -86 was iwl4965 flakiness (which appears to be fixed in -97). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@red

FC8: Installing Greasemonkey changes firefox font and font size

2008-07-28 Thread M. Fioretti
Greetings, The title says it all: after I installed greasemonkey, I restarted firefox and now every window opens with smaller text and (though I'm not 100% sure of this second point) even the font itself looks different. What happened exactly, and how to go back to the previous settings, or at lea

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -o > > GNU/Linux > > Good. Learn from it. Spread it. G N U / L i n u x G N U / L i n u x G N U / L i n u x G N U / L i n u x GNU / Linux G NU/ Linux G N U / L

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:50:48AM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -o > > > GNU/Linux > > > > Good. Learn from it. Spread it. > > G N U / L i n u x > G N U / L i n u x > G N U / L i n u x > G N U / L i n u x > GNU / L

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> >> > Where is the script that I shall run to make > my system > >> a GNU/Linux system? > > >> You don't need to run any script to do so, it > already is a > >> GNU/Linux system. > > > > http://www.fsfla.org/svn/fsfla/software/linux-libre/scripts/ > > These will make your *kernel* free. They h

Re: give me my sound back!

2008-07-28 Thread the bx
another thread on the same issue, I think. "pulseaudio does not start after kernel update" I updated kernel of F8 and lost sound. I know that most reports here concern F9. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Fortunately, my kids are savvy enough to check

mount windows share

2008-07-28 Thread David Hláčik
Hello, how to mount windows share from Fedora 9 ? using places ... connect to server ... does not work becouse of : - can't display location smb:// ... no application registered to hande this request. Thanks for help! David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: htt

Re: Announcement: New repo with updated ClamAV packages for Fedora 8

2008-07-28 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 28/07/08 04:09, Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote: Verily I say unto thee, that Rahul Sundaram spake thusly: Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote: Thanks. I've disabled unrar support, rebuilt and published (now available for F7-i386 too): http://rpm.slated.org On my Fedora 7 system I get fro

updating my "getting started with QEMU under fedora" howto

2008-07-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i was going to take what i thought was a couple minutes and update my writeup on QEMU under fedora: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/QEMU for fedora 9 but, apparently, it's not going to be a simple s/8/9/g. there doesn't appear to be a (livna) kqemu-kmdl package anymore; instead,

Re: mount windows share

2008-07-28 Thread Armin
On Monday 28 July 2008 15:02:37 David Hláčik wrote: > Hello, how to mount windows share from Fedora 9 ? > > using places ... connect to server ... does not work becouse of : > - can't display location smb:// ... no application registered to hande > this request. > > Thanks for help! > > David I'm

old redhat box suddenly acting up

2008-07-28 Thread kalin m
i have this old redhat 7.2 box that suddenly started to act up. it restarts all the time and there is nothing in the log but this: Jul 23 03:06:25 grande syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Jul 23 03:06:25 grande syslog: syslogd startup succeeded something somewhare has changed but i can't figure it out. t

Missing Hardwae option

2008-07-28 Thread Aaron Konstam
Where in F9 is the equivalent of: System-> Preferences->Hardware->Removable Drives and Media? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions

2008-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Who? Anyone who did something contrary to those terms. And who did, in the presented scenario? One of the four must have, because they did something that you claim to be impossible under the GPL. John A. Hacker develops, from scratch, a program that contains two sourc

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> Right. It's the GNU operating system, and it also > contains non-Free > Software. It only appears to be a contradiction if you > conflate RMS, > FSF, GNU, Free Software, GPL, patent-avoidance, Free Open > Standards, > no-DRM, etc, all under the same "I don't like this > topic" umbrella. > But t

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > laugh at Alexandra and ignore him ? ^ Wow, it wasn't enough to rename the operating system and the movement, now you're trying to rename *me*? :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Softw

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please take this off list. And if you are not representing a Red Hat > viewpoint perhaps you would also care to post from a personal email > address. Already covered, even in this thread. There are no limits to the distractions people will c

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 28, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know I really don't care what you call it, but I do care that you are > systematically driving people away from free software. Away from Free Software or away from Fedora and Linux, that are both non-Free Software, and vocally not interes

Re: mount windows share

2008-07-28 Thread David Hláčik
Thanks, but this unfortunately did not solved my problem. Regards, David On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2008 15:02:37 David Hláčik wrote: > > Hello, how to mount windows share from Fedora 9 ? > > > > using places ... connect to server ... d

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
Antonio Olivares wrote: But GNU utilities exist in *BSD camps as well, and the name GNU/*BSD is not used or required. A page explains that since Linux Distributions are more popular than *BSD distributions, it makes much more sense to attach to a more successful project. Not to the same ext

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > You know I really don't care what you call it, but > I do care that you are > > systematically driving people away from free software. > > Away from Free Software or away from Fedora and Linux, that ^ ^ Do you really mean Linux, I thought y

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 04:06, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > It's a huge mistake to create analogies between information and property. > > If the cow were software, you and I could both milk it. It would never > run out. That's the way information works: you copy it and the ori

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 01:21, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 27, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Memtest runs under the bios operating system. > > Nope. It does rely on probing and some BIOS configuration tables to > find out what it's running on, but that's about it. No ope

Re: mount windows share

2008-07-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 28 July 2008 19:36:33 David Hláčik wrote: > Thanks, but this unfortunately did not solved my problem. > > Regards, > > David > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 28 July 2008 15:02:37 David Hláčik wrote: > > > Hello, how to mount windows shar

skype auto-start in gnome

2008-07-28 Thread David Hláčik
Hello, is there a way, to configure Skype to auto-start after log-in to gnome desktop ? -- Fedora 9 Thanks in advance! David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: skype auto-start in gnome

2008-07-28 Thread Nicolae Ghimbovschi
Go to System->Preferences->Personal->Sessions and in Startup Programs add skype. 2008/7/28 David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > is there a way, to configure Skype to auto-start after log-in to gnome > desktop ? > > -- Fedora 9 > > Thanks in advance! > > David > > -- > fedora-list mailing

Re: Announcement: New repo with updated ClamAV packages for Fedora 8

2008-07-28 Thread Keith G. Robertson-Turner
Verily I say unto thee, that Erik P. Olsen spake thusly: > On my Fedora 7 system I get from yum update clamav: > Error: Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.3 is needed by package klamav > I do indeed have libclamav.so.3 so what is wrong? The error message is misleading. It doesn't mean that you curr

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
> Hey, how about me starting a quest here? :-) > > When you say "information" above, you actually > mean "classical information", > as opposed to quantum information, which does not possess > the property of > copying (this famous property is called the no-cloning > theorem). quantum as opposed

Re: skype auto-start in gnome

2008-07-28 Thread Armin
On Monday 28 July 2008 15:48:57 David Hláčik wrote: > Hello, > > is there a way, to configure Skype to auto-start after log-in to gnome > desktop ? > > -- Fedora 9 > > Thanks in advance! > > David go to System > preferences > personal > sessions and add the entry for skype there. -- Armin -- fe

Re: mount windows share

2008-07-28 Thread Seann Clark
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008 19:36:33 David Hláčik wrote: Thanks, but this unfortunately did not solved my problem. Regards, David On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008 15:02:37 David Hláčik wrote: Hello, how to

Re: FC8: Installing Greasemonkey changes firefox font and font size

2008-07-28 Thread g
M. Fioretti wrote: The title says it all: after I installed greasemonkey, I restarted firefox and now every window opens with smaller text and (though I'm this is a known problem from when greasemonkey came out. do not recall what/where problem is. you should be able to find it at mozilla si

New support lists?

2008-07-28 Thread Mike Chambers
Hi all, Reading the last couple emails from another thread on maybe new list or two, and to segregate the content to them was brought up and have couple new list names that might help make sense or to get the ball rolling? fedora-list(this one) - General Fedora talk, opinions, suggestions, commen

Re: mount windows share

2008-07-28 Thread David Hláčik
Hi, thank you all very much for answers! Yeah, so i will do it manually, i was just really curious, how-come that Places - Connect to Server in gnome does not work, but as i can see, problem is that this is not implemented or something. It is working to some one? Thanks in advance! David On Mo

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Claude Jones
On Mon July 28 2008 12:56:17 pm Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> RMS is the one requesting this > I am.  He's not here.  He's not even aware I'm doing this > here. I too am beginning to chafe. You have not only become tiresome, but, you ar

Re: New support lists?

2008-07-28 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Mon, 7/28/08, Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Mike Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: New support lists? > To: "Fedora" > Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 12:15 PM > Hi all, > > Reading the last couple emails from another thread on maybe > new list or > two, and to segre

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread John Cornelius
Antonio Olivares wrote: The right thing for me to do is to {sHuT ThE HeLl up}* as many people are ***very pissed off***, It is hard for me to do that * because I really enjoy reading the comments by all the members who have posted. I would like to remain on the sidelines and come in to the field

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 01:41:36PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: >> But GNU utilities exist in *BSD camps as well, and the name GNU/*BSD is >> not used or required. A page explains that since Linux Distributions >> are more popular than *BSD distributions, it makes much mo

Re: old redhat box suddenly acting up

2008-07-28 Thread Todd Denniston
kalin m wrote, On 07/28/2008 02:13 PM: i have this old redhat 7.2 box that suddenly started to act up. it restarts all the time and there is nothing in the log but this: Jul 23 03:06:25 grande syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Jul 23 03:06:25 grande syslog: syslogd startup succeeded something somewhare

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