Fedora Board IRC meeting 1800 UTC 2008-09-09

2008-09-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 9 September 2008, at 1800 UTC on IRC Freenode. The public is invited to do the following: * Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. This channel is read-only for non-Board members. * Join #fedora-board-public to

Re: [Echo] New system-network-control icon set

2008-09-06 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi from FUDCon, I've just finished new system-network-control icon set. The metaphor is based on what I've found when looking for network control on google images. I attach PNG, SVG is way too big, so you can get it on my fp.o page [1]. Minor

[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing

2008-09-06 Thread ferossan
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Sep 6 22:19:58 + 2008 --- Support for OTF (with CFF) is a must. Hope soon have some certain good news about

[Bug 453017] Review Request: un-extra-fonts - Korean TrueType fonts

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453017 --- Comment #27 from Dennis Jang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-09-06 21:25:41 EDT --- cvs done. -- Configure bugmail:

[Bug 453017] Review Request: un-extra-fonts - Korean TrueType fonts

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453017 --- Comment #28 from Dennis Jang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-09-06 21:29:44 EDT --- (In reply to comment #27) cvs done. So

Test fedora-release packages for F8 and F9

2008-09-06 Thread Warren Togami
http://togami.com/~warren/fedora/fedora-release-8-5.transitiontest1.noarch.rpm http://togami.com/~warren/fedora/fedora-release-9-3.transitiontest1.noarch.rpm Test fedora-release packages pointing at the newkey update repos. Attached are sha1sums GPG clearsigned by my personal GPG keyid 54A2ACF1.

archives on secondary1

2008-09-06 Thread Matt Domsch
quick sanity check. archives.fp.o is on secondary1.fp.o, right? There are 2 separate rsyncd.conf files in puppet, one for archives, one for secondary. Given they land at the same place on the same machine, only the one for secondary is actually in effect. If they're going to be on the same

Re: archives on secondary1

2008-09-06 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: quick sanity check. archives.fp.o is on secondary1.fp.o, right? There are 2 separate rsyncd.conf files in puppet, one for archives, one for secondary. Given they land at the same place on the same machine, only the one for secondary is actually in

Re: archives on secondary1

2008-09-06 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 10:05:05AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: quick sanity check. archives.fp.o is on secondary1.fp.o, right? There are 2 separate rsyncd.conf files in puppet, one for archives, one for secondary. Given they land at the same place

Re: is it possible to create an orphaned process?

2008-09-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 05Sep2008 19:40, Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I have an odd application that has threads which hang around until all | child processes have finished executing. | I'd like to create a background process that isn't a child of said | thread, so that the thread can exit. Fork twice

Re: Dell OptiPlex 745 reboot problem -- BIOS update went poorly

2008-09-06 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 05.09.2008 23:51, Johnathan Hegge a écrit : Starting up looks fine, all services showed OK. Gets to local, X starts and the box freezes at the spinning dots with a frozen mouse. Can't break with Ctrl-Alt-Del or Ctrl-Backspace. seems that X

Re: [Fwd: Fedora 8 and 9 updates status]

2008-09-06 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul W. Frields wrote: snip As a reminder, the fedora-announce-list is *extremely* low traffic and it's highly recommended that if you bother with any of our lists at all, you should subscribe to it too:

nvidia quadro 135m issues - fc9

2008-09-06 Thread d830usr
I have a problem which I was hoping someone could send me in the right direction. I have a nvidia quadro 135m working with the latest driver from the nvidia site on fc9, but occasionally my screen will flicker, even when the screen is idle. Additionally any time I have the laptop docked using

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 05Sep2008 18:32, Michael Cronenworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You continuously explain what *you* do with your system, but have yet to give a wider, more useful reason for enabling sendmail and atd at startup. Gah. Wake up. It doesn't matter what one of _us_ does with our system, it

Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread kwhiskerz
This is OT, but perhaps someone knows an answer. Is there a way a script can determine which computer it is running on and refuse to run if it is on the wrong computer? if [ some case ]; then run else don't run fi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Luciano Rocha
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 02:27:27AM -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: This is OT, but perhaps someone knows an answer. Is there a way a script can determine which computer it is running on and refuse to run if it is on the wrong computer? if [ some case ]; then if [ $(hostname -s) = puter ]; then

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-06 Thread jdow
From: Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2008, September 05 13:12 * jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080905 20:52]: From: Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2008, September 05 00:50 * jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080905 08:56]: Suppose I have NO RedHat installed. I have no

Re: is it possible to create an orphaned process?

2008-09-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:40:32 -0700 Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have an odd application that has threads which hang around until all child processes have finished executing. I'd like to create a background process that isn't a child of said thread, so that the thread

Re: Dell OptiPlex 745 reboot problem -- BIOS update went poorly

2008-09-06 Thread Bjørn Tore Sund
Changing the subject like that is normally a very good way to make sure I won't spot your reply... Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:51:59 -0500 From: Johnathan Hegge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dell OptiPlex 745 reboot problem -- BIOS update went poorly To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID:

Re: Jack Audio Not Working

2008-09-06 Thread Jeremy
Hello Chris, What soundcard are you using? Could you post the output of cat /proc/asound/cards? And the options with which you fire up jackd? Jeremy Chris Spencer wrote: I'm unable to hear any audio using the Jack server. I've followed the guide at

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Arun Shrimali wrote: I am planning to setup fetchmail + sendmail so that I can fetch mails from remote server for few users and they can access mail through outlook express or squirrel mail. Is the combination right ?? where can I get the how to about this combination ?? I have googled

Re: Regarding Fedora core 7

2008-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 17:36 +0530, winiston wrote: Can you provide the VGA driver for Fedora core 7? How to make it works? Fedora 7 no longer supported. End of Life Upgrade to Fedora 8 or 9 Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread jdow
From: Arun Shrimali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2008, September 06 03:15 Dear All, I have a remote mail server and domain where all our mails are received. Locally I have a squid proxy server (non transparent) (on FC6) behind a router through which my local users access the Internet

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread jdow
From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2008, September 06 03:32 Arun Shrimali wrote: I am planning to setup fetchmail + sendmail so that I can fetch mails from remote server for few users and they can access mail through outlook express or squirrel mail. Is the combination

Re: When the floodgates open ...

2008-09-06 Thread jdow
From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2008, September 06 04:21 When updates re-appear, will we have to do anything more than say yum update? Will we (common-or-garden users) have to do anything to validate or accept the new key? Good questions. I wonder if the

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:26 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:35 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 15:07 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 09:39 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 18:46 -0430, Patrick

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
jdow wrote: I do this, with cron jobs to run fetchmail from the different mail servers every few minutes. Why bother with a cron job. Fetchmail itself has a daemon mode. Use it. Thanks, I didn't know about that. I'm trying it now (fetchmail -d 300). Actually, I also fetch some mail by

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread Arun Shrimali
Dear All, It means that I have to configure fetchmail + dovecot and outlook or other client at local users PC. Please mention the howto of this combination if any body knows .. regards Arun On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arun Shrimali wrote:

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Arun Shrimali wrote: It means that I have to configure fetchmail + dovecot and outlook or other client at local users PC. Please mention the howto of this combination if any body knows .. I'm no expert, but I collect my email with fetchmail (and uucp, but that is almost certainly

Re: [Fwd: Fedora 8 and 9 updates status]

2008-09-06 Thread Joe Christy
Vis-a-vis Jesse Keating's forwarded note of 2008-09-05 10:08: ... Today we've reached a major milestone in this progress. We have done a successful compose of all the existing and as of yesterday pending updates for Fedora 8 and Fedora 9, all signed with our new keys. These updates will

Re: [Fwd: Fedora 8 and 9 updates status]

2008-09-06 Thread Joe Christy
Vis-a-vis my note of 2008-09-06 07:53: ... A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Please save us from our ignorance. Let's not be so busy making easy things trivial that we make hard things an ordeal. ... This is a joke. I'm perfectly content to wait until the

Re: Regarding Fedora core 7

2008-09-06 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:06 AM, winiston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Respected Sir/Madam, My name is P.Winiston. I am working in Futura Automation Pvt Ltd as a RD Engineer. Technical problem: We are using Intel 852GME chipset with 6.4 Display. After installing the Fedora core 7, it support

Re: When the floodgates open ...

2008-09-06 Thread Travis Arnold
When updates resume, would anything show up in package kit and how would your sort of non geeky/technical user fix the problem- would this involve updating mirrors by hand in a file? *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: When the floodgates open ...

2008-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 11:53 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: When updates resume, would anything show up in package kit and how would your sort of non geeky/technical user fix the problem- would this involve updating mirrors by hand in a file? *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Chris Tyler wrote: For sure. But the original statement it is true when configuration means configuration of the MTA or MUA. Let me clarify: In my case, on my desktop at work and on my home machines, I can do a default installation of Fedora and then send mail

Re: When the floodgates open ...

2008-09-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 17:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 11:53 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: When updates resume, would anything show up in package kit and how would your sort of non geeky/technical user fix the problem- would this involve updating mirrors by hand in a

Re: Fetchmail + Sendmail for local users ??

2008-09-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
jdow wrote: From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2008, September 06 03:32 Arun Shrimali wrote: Is the combination right ?? where can I get the how to about this combination ?? I have googled but ... I do this, with cron jobs to run fetchmail from the different mail

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Dennis Kaptain
if [ some case ]; then if [ $(hostname -s) = puter ]; then echo running fi I'd check how the hostname command runs on your computer, See what happens on my F8 system: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname confianza [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname -s localhost [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ the -s

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Look, we have been at this too long. Agreed. switchdesk changes the file .Xclient-defaults but that file is not sourced on my machine. If you know how to get it sourced when you login I will be glad to learn something new. And I've

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
Michael Cronenworth wrote: For sure. But the original statement it is true when configuration means configuration of the MTA or MUA. Let me clarify: In my case, on my desktop at work and on my home machines, I can do a default installation of Fedora and then send mail without knowing anything

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread kwhiskerz
The problem is that both computers return hostname = localhost, so that won't work. IP address is not always possible, as the network might not be up, especially on the laptop. How would I check the HWaddress (MAC)? As ifconfig returns a whole list of things: 1.How can I isolate just

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
Michael Cronenworth wrote: If you don't use email, why are you using computers again? And if you do, you've provided exactly this information to one or several email client programs. Doing it once for sendmail lets any number of users run any number of email clients that just hand off to

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread kwhiskerz
A suggestion I found on the net is to test for the value of md5sum /etc/passwd. Now, does this stay the same, even if a password is added or changed? Is it unique to a computer? And also, how do I isolate the number and strip off the space and /etc/passwd from the result? -- fedora-list

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 11:54 -0600, kwhiskerz wrote: The problem is that both computers return hostname = localhost, so that won't work. IP address is not always possible, as the network might not be up, especially on the laptop. How would I check the HWaddress (MAC)? As ifconfig returns

Re: NFS statd fails to start

2008-09-06 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, While booting F9, I NFS statd fails to start. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul What troubleshooting steps have you taken? More details are needed. The mandatory questions: have you checked your logs for

Re: Regarding Fedora core 7

2008-09-06 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:44, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Kam Leo wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:06 AM, winiston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Respected Sir/Madam, My name is P.Winiston. I am working in Futura Automation Pvt Ltd as a RD Engineer. Technical problem: We are

Re: [Fwd: Fedora 8 and 9 updates status]

2008-09-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 07:53:49 -0700, Joe Christy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vis-a-vis Jesse Keating's forwarded note of 2008-09-05 10:08: What, pray tell, are the new locations? I have local mirrors of the F{8,9} updates, since it takes less time to rsync the trees than to do

Re: [Fwd: Fedora 8 and 9 updates status]

2008-09-06 Thread Itamar - IspBrasil
why not create a fedora 8.1 and 9.1 release with new key's ? Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 07:53:49 -0700, Joe Christy[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vis-a-vis Jesse Keating's forwarded note of 2008-09-05 10:08: What, pray tell, are the new locations? I have

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Les Mikesell
kwhiskerz wrote: The problem is that both computers return hostname = localhost, so that won't work. IP address is not always possible, as the network might not be up, especially on the laptop. How would I check the HWaddress (MAC)? As ifconfig returns a whole list of things: 1.How can I

Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
Until changing to F-9 Thunderbird used to display the e-mail sender's time and offset in the header above the text field like 14:03:08 -0500 instead of 15:03 which is an almost totally useless bit of information [to me] and is already displayed in the list of incoming messages. I've spent

FYI

2008-09-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
Forwarded Message From: Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com To: fedora-announce-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fedora Board IRC meeting 1800 UTC 2008-09-09 Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:33:30 -0400 The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on

Re: Mouse in gnome-terminal under ssh?? SOLVED

2008-09-06 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:06:29 +, Beartooth wrote: [X] Enable-mouse-in-xterm is still checked in the new Alpine configuration -- but it no longer works. I find this an invaluable tweak, which my fingers have long since adopted without requiring conscious attention. So now, of

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Look, we have been at this too long. Agreed. switchdesk changes the file .Xclient-defaults but that file is not sourced on my machine. If you know how to get it

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:10 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:37 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Ypou are absolutely correct but I wanted to change the window manager not the display manager. I am sorry I got the terms confused in a previous message. switchdesk is

Re: When the floodgates open ...

2008-09-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 15:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 17:02 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 11:53 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: When updates resume, would anything show up in package kit and how would your sort of non geeky/technical user fix the

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 15:16 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:10 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:37 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Ypou are absolutely correct but I wanted to change the window manager not the display manager. I am sorry I got the

Re: Regarding Fedora core 7

2008-09-06 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 06 September 2008 21:01, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:44, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Did FC7 still have the VGA driver? That would limit you to 640 x 480 - but it would only be 256 colors. You can also try specifying a

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 15:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Look, we have been at this too long. Agreed. switchdesk changes the file .Xclient-defaults but that file

Re: NFS statd fails to start

2008-09-06 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While booting F9, I NFS statd fails to start. Any ideas? What troubleshooting steps have you taken? More details are needed. The mandatory questions: have

Re: NFS statd fails to start

2008-09-06 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While booting F9, I NFS statd fails to start. Any ideas? What troubleshooting steps have you taken? More details are needed. The mandatory questions: have you checked your logs for messages? Do you get any errors? Have you

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Sep2008 12:01, kwhiskerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | A suggestion I found on the net is to test for the value of md5sum | /etc/passwd. That's horrible. Unreliable, etc. | Now, does this stay the same, even if a password is added or | changed? With shadow passwords, yes. But if someone:

Re: Can't switch to KDE

2008-09-06 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 15:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Look, we have been at this too long.

Re: NFS statd fails to start

2008-09-06 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While booting F9, I NFS statd fails to start. Any ideas? What troubleshooting steps have you taken? More details are needed. The mandatory questions: have

Re: NFS statd fails to start

2008-09-06 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While booting F9, I NFS statd fails to start. Any ideas? What troubleshooting steps have you taken? More details are needed. The mandatory questions: have you checked your logs for messages? Do you get any errors? Have you

Thunderbird won't Display jpg pictures

2008-09-06 Thread Jim
If I get a .jpg picture in a email Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 won't open pictures, Even after I tell it to Open Images. But if I go to attachments at bottom of email and click on attachments it will open the pictures in a different window. In /Edit/Preferences/Attachments/Download Actions/View and

Samba Crash

2008-09-06 Thread Darren Foster
Hi There Folks, I have a problem in fedora core 9 in that when ever i go to system settings and click on Samba i get a KDE Crash Report with the following short description message. The application KDE Control Module (kcmshell4) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) This happens when ever

Re: Thunderbird won't Display jpg pictures

2008-09-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jim wrote: If I get a .jpg picture in a email Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 won't open pictures, Even after I tell it to Open Images. But if I go to attachments at bottom of email and click on attachments it will open the pictures in a different window. In /Edit/Preferences/Attachments/Download

Re: Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Bob Goodwin wrote: Until changing to F-9 Thunderbird used to display the e-mail sender's time and offset in the header above the text field like 14:03:08 -0500 instead of 15:03 which is an almost totally useless bit of information [to me] and is already displayed in the list of incoming

Re: Thunderbird won't Display jpg pictures

2008-09-06 Thread Jim
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Jim wrote: If I get a .jpg picture in a email Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 won't open pictures, Even after I tell it to Open Images. But if I go to attachments at bottom of email and click on attachments it will open the pictures in a different window. In

Re: Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: Until changing to F-9 Thunderbird used to display the e-mail sender's time and offset in the header above the text field like 14:03:08 -0500 instead of 15:03 which is an almost totally useless bit of information [to me] and is already displayed in the

Re: Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Bob Goodwin wrote: One way to accomplish this is to install the ConfigDate addon. In the preferences it says: There is a hidden option to display the original date string instead of the formated date in messages headers. I've been too lazy to find the hidden option. That fixed it.

Re: Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: One way to accomplish this is to install the ConfigDate addon. In the preferences it says: There is a hidden option to display the original date string instead of the formated date in messages headers. I've been too lazy to find the hidden option.

Re: Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Bob Goodwin wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: One way to accomplish this is to install the ConfigDate addon. In the preferences it says: There is a hidden option to display the original date string instead of the formated date in messages headers. I've been too lazy to

Re: NFS statd fails to start

2008-09-06 Thread Stuart Sears
Paul Smith wrote: Whenever I run /sbin/service rpcbind restart I get everything OK, but Selinux pops up a message indicating: AVC denial After the rpcbind restart, no progress regarding nfs being able to start. Yes, I am running F9. I don't run F9 -so I cannot be much help if I don't

Re: Character encoding

2008-09-06 Thread Björn Persson
Adil Drissi wrote: I want to know what is the encoding type of a file. So i run this command: file --mime index.php. The output is : index.php: text/html But this does not give any character encoding type. I would like to convert this file to UTF-8 but the command convmv cannot be run

Re: Thunderbird header 'date' display -

2008-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
Ed Greshko wrote: I think you are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. I guess ... I am *was* too lazy to find out exactly what the check box was doing under the hood. I know what the results are...otherwise I would not have been able to answer your question. :-) Under the odd

Re: Thunderbird won't Display jpg pictures

2008-09-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jim wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Jim wrote: If I get a .jpg picture in a email Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 won't open pictures, Even after I tell it to Open Images. But if I go to attachments at bottom of email and click on attachments it will open the pictures in a different window. In

Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

2008-09-06 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 01:21:40AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Are there any legitimate reasons why the atd and sendmail services are enabled by default? A default install is for a desktop and they are quite useless in that regard. Maybe they're useless to YOU. Sendmail only stores

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread kwhiskerz
I will see if I can make the HWaddr test work. Thanks, those are great suggestions. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Fedora 9 Openchrome drv HP w2207h Monitor was: Re: help with setting up graphics

2008-09-06 Thread Björn Persson
Björn Persson wrote: Beartooth wrote: I can't imagine why startx would work immediately after logging in in text mode, without touching anything that affects the configuration of X; and it seems a strange, roundabout approach. But I'm willing to try it, if I understand aright what

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
kwhiskerz wrote: The problem is that both computers return hostname = localhost, so that won't work. IP address is not always possible, as the network might not be up, especially on the laptop. How would I check the HWaddress (MAC)? As ifconfig returns a whole list of things: 1.How can I

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike McCarty wrote: jdow wrote: If this can be done once in an initial install situation it can be done again in an update situation using the same mechanism. One way is to download the stuff from Red Hat's site itself, and trust that no one has managed to intercept your communications.

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ed Greshko wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The hypothetical scenario being discussed is that you have already replaced the former (good but now possibly suspect) public key with a spurious new one. If that were to happen, you would be in danger of

Re: Script Test [OT]

2008-09-06 Thread kwhiskerz
Tried it on both computers. Works great! Neither will run the other's script. Fantastic! THANKS :-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Character encoding

2008-09-06 Thread Adil Drissi
Hi, Thank you for your answer. I want to use this in my personal computer. Can you give me the name of the variable please? Say I will set that variable to UTF-8 in /etc/profile, do you think that vim will always save my files in utf-8 format? Another thing, a lot of editors allow to choose

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-06 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:38 AM, jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2008, September 05 13:12 Some 5 posts later . Where are the other critical open source players in all this? Moving forward... At this point a critical missing component

Rahsia Hebat Automatik RM593,645.00 Dari Rumah Terbongkar.

2008-09-06 Thread ahmad kamil
Rahsia Hebat Automatik RM593,645.00 Dari Rumah Terbongkar. maaf mengganggu anda. Langkah Demi Langkah Bagaimana Mohd Nizam Menjana RM100, RM300 Hingga RM500 Sehari Dari Rumah Tanpa Bercakap Dan Berjumpa Dengan Sesiapa, Dan Anda Juga Boleh Ikut Macam Mohd Nizam. sila layari di sini

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] F9-x86_64: setarch i686 not working anymore?

2008-09-06 Thread Sebastian Vahl
Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz: On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 00:54 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: Is a setarch i686 livecd-creator ... to create a i686 based live image on a x86_64 host not working anymore? It should be fine -- are you sure your config hasn't been changed to have

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] 2 commits - imgcreate/creator.py imgcreate/kickstart.py

2008-09-06 Thread Jim Gettys
Ok, now works again. But it apparently hasn't helped the /usr/share/locale size issue. I still get 272MB in the locale directory, and tons of languages - Jim On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 12:07 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 11:11 -0400, Jim Gettys

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] 2 commits - imgcreate/creator.py imgcreate/kickstart.py

2008-09-06 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 15:37 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: Ok, now works again. But it apparently hasn't helped the /usr/share/locale size issue. I still get 272MB in the locale directory, and tons of languages Are you actually specifying instlangs? (%package --instLangs en_US:es_ES or

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] F9-x86_64: setarch i686 not working anymore?

2008-09-06 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 10:41 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz: Also, 'setarch i686 uname -m' should give basically the same information for what arch is used The output of this is the correct i686. I'm not sure about this but I think this

Re: press kit

2008-09-06 Thread Neville A. Cross
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:25 AM, wonderer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hy there, I had a short look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Press and I miss a press-kit, a lets say press information document, a short doc where all necessary things a journalist needs to know about fedora is

Re: press kit

2008-09-06 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
Hi, I had a short look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Press and I miss a press-kit, a lets say press information document, a short doc where all necessary things a journalist needs to know about fedora is presented. Is there a need for it? If yes, I would be glad to write one.

Re: [Fedora-music-list] [Fwd: [Bug 440736] FTBFS qsynth-0.2.5-7.fc9]

2008-09-06 Thread Hans de Goede
Michel Salim wrote: I can take a look at it later today. Good, Let me know if you can't solve it then I'll take a look. Regards, Hans ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com

Re: [Fedora-music-list] [Fwd: [Bug 440736] FTBFS qsynth-0.2.5-7.fc9]

2008-09-06 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 09:11 -0400, Michel Salim wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Hans de Goede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michel Salim wrote: I can take a look at it later today. Good, Let me know if you can't solve it then I'll take a look. I've pushed the build to the

[Bug 461350] New: cpanspec nearly always misses the BuildRequires: perl(Test::More)

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: cpanspec nearly always misses the BuildRequires: perl(Test::More) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461350 Summary: cpanspec nearly always misses

[Bug 461383] New: Data::Visitor 0.19 is out

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 461383] Data::Visitor 0.19 is out

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 461383] Data::Visitor 0.19 is out

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 461383] Data::Visitor 0.19 is out

2008-09-06 Thread bugzilla
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