Re: Are you using LXDE?

2009-06-01 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:26:56AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right > approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE. > > How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it? > Would you find a Fedora LXD

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 02 June 2009 00:00:30 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they > > will probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told > > them they would have to buy hardware themselves they would scra

Pulseaudio

2009-06-01 Thread jarmo
Quite ironic. Jun 2 09:18:37 oh1mrr pulseaudio[3148]: module-alsa- sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio developers. Someone posted similar to Pulsea

Re: LIVE USB PROBLEMS

2009-06-01 Thread kira . laucas
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:27:07AM +0300, Thales Maciel wrote: > > i downloaded the live F10 cd image, and used the usbcreator and all... > now i'm having trouble with booting it... > > thing is... it starts booting, get the progression bar, and after that, > there's this blank screen (looks lik

Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk

2009-06-01 Thread Sumit Agrawal
Thanks for all.. But I am wondering why USB hard disk is not detected while installation Fedora 10 Core. Is it Bug in Fedora installation? Regards, Sumit Agrawal On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:08 AM, wrote: > > > >> Sumit Agrawal wrote: > > > >> > I am new for Fedora. > > > >> > I was trying to in

Re: mistake about double posting [was:[Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk]]

2009-06-01 Thread kira . laucas
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:21:27PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 00:47 +0530, kira.lau...@gmail.com wrote: > > apparently i forgot to edit my account option to send me an acknowledgement > > mail when i post to this list and so i double posted.Sorry about the > > mista

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... (Gene Heskett)

2009-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:01:54 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > ISTR if you can snoop you can hijack the TCP session setup by responding > first (aren't out-of-window packets ignored?). You don't have to cause > the "real" responses to be dropped, you just have to respond faster. That's still

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:01 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Well, its busy putting the finishing touches and the reboot to rawhide >> right now. It just asked for a runlevel 3 passwd. >> >> And the first casualty is my accessory usb mouse, its dead an

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:01 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Well, its busy putting the finishing touches and the reboot to rawhide right > now. It just asked for a runlevel 3 passwd. > > And the first casualty is my accessory usb mouse, its dead and I am stuck > with > that totally worthless scr

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 01:21:30 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > A Radeon 9250 might end up being the best choice, it's not the most powerful > graphics card out there, but it's cheap, it does have a TCL engine and 3D > acceleration just works. I think you are likely to get more bang for your b

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >>On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >> >>Where did you 'get' the preupgrade. > >>From the F8 repos, the ones with the newkey designation. > >[..] > >>Fedora would never

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 15:23:33 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Is there a Skype HOWTO or FAQ for Fedora-10? > > I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, > but don't see any way to do this under Linux. > > Incidentally, is there any alternative to Skype > that works under Li

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 01:06 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > >> >> I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, > >> >> but don't see any way to do this under Linux. > >> > > >> > AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail > >>

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >Where did you 'get' the preupgrade. >From the F8 repos, the ones with the newkey designation. [..] >Fedora would never 'force' you to use Rawhide. Although it kicks the >poo, IM

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >On 6/1/2009 9:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >>> On 6/1/2009 6:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: > On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Where did you 'get' the preupgrade.

LIVE USB PROBLEMS

2009-06-01 Thread Thales Maciel
hello, first of all, just wanted to say that i'm new here, and... i downloaded the live F10 cd image, and used the usbcreator and all... now i'm having trouble with booting it... thing is... it starts booting, get the progression bar, and after that, there's this blank screen (looks like a prom

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >> On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: >> Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I >> have to wait another wee

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 9:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >> On 6/1/2009 6:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Where did you 'get' the preupgrade. >>> F8 repo via yumex. >> Ok. You had an instal

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 8:14 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > David wrote: > >> And it should be *obvious* that since Fedora 11 has not yet been >> released that Fedora 11 should *not* be offered as an upgrade option. >> >> Why are you trying to make this difficult? > > It's not difficult, it is ambiguous. > > S

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >On 6/1/2009 6:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >>> On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Where did you 'get' the preupgrade. >> >> F8 repo via yumex. > >Ok. You had an install of Fedora 8 and you tried/wanted to upgrade

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show >> topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? > >F8's preupgrade is extremely buggy and out of date. (It was beta at the >time, F9 is the first release wh

Re: Determining Chipsets in USB devices.

2009-06-01 Thread Rick Stevens
Jim wrote: How do you determine what Chipset is in a USB device. Open it up physically. That's the only way. I have googled this with no results. I don't see how lsusb reads chipsets. It can't. It can give you the manufacturer's ID and device ID. A number of manufacturers, however, have

Re: Are you using LXDE?

2009-06-01 Thread Steven I Usdansky
Using it on my Acer Aspire One. I like the fact that it's lighter weight than GNOME, both in terms of disk space and memory usage. I'd really like to see it on a Live CD. The presence of XFCE is irrelevant when running from the Live CD, and removing XFCE has got to be easier than removing GNOME

Determining Chipsets in USB devices.

2009-06-01 Thread Jim
How do you determine what Chipset is in a USB device. I have googled this with no results. I don't see how lsusb reads chipsets. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communi

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Kevin Kofler wrote: > The right choice is to pick one of the older ATI models (up to X1950), see: > http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon > All except the r100 (Radeon 7000/VE) series have texturing, clipping and > lighting (TCL) support. > > Also note that the cited Asus K8V-MX motherboard

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
David wrote: > And it should be *obvious* that since Fedora 11 has not yet been > released that Fedora 11 should *not* be offered as an upgrade option. > > Why are you trying to make this difficult? It's not difficult, it is ambiguous. Since the title of the thread is "update to F11" it is not

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, >> >> but don't see any way to do this under Linux. >> > >> > AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail >> > contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and hav

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Ed Greshko
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > >> There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges. >> > > But don't buy NVidia! Proprietary drivers only cause problems. > Only for some people I've said it beforeand I'll say it again I've been using the

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: > There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges. But don't buy NVidia! Proprietary drivers only cause problems. >> 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is. > I'd go with a AMD/Ati card due to AMD's effort to bring quality open > source drivers to

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Dave Stevens
On Monday 01 June 2009 07:03:21 am Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: > > 1. Cheap > 2. T&L capability > 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is. > > [This is for a desktop with an Asus K8V-MX motherboard. > I need the T&L feature for my g

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alan Cox wrote: > In which case you are probably ok with the typical onboard video (for > most boards). The onboard video is probably what he's using now and isn't powerful enough for his granddaughter's Winblow$ games. (The motherboard he cites has VIA Unichrome onboard graphics.) Kevin

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gene Heskett wrote: > From an uptodate F8 install? This pix is still blurry... F8 is no longer updated, so this bug will never get fixed. Use another upgrade method. And you should have already upgraded half a year ago. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
Jim wrote: FC10 How do you treat a l3886usb.arm firmware package in Fedora. How do you install it into /lib/firmware ? Just copy and rename it to the appropriate name for your USB adapter. I think the problem in your case is, it is unclear what the appropriate name for your adapter is. You

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 6:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >> On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Where did you 'get' the preupgrade. > > F8 repo via yumex. Ok. You had an install of Fedora 8 and you tried/wanted to upgrade to Fedora 10? Correct? It will have to wai

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > .. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 I think you mean Fedora 8 there. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicat

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 5:40 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > David wrote: > Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. > >>> Assuming you have to check the "Display unstable test releases" >>> and then choose Rawhide, >>> why not say this? >>> >>> It may be obvious to you, >>> but would not be to many Fedora users

Re: Input/output errors when reading data DVD

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > I have recorded some data DVD some time ago. Now, I am trying to copy > them to my hard disk, but I am always getting an > > 'input/output error'. > > Any ideas? Maybe the following helps to identify the problem: Jun 2 00:08:43 localhost kern

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gene Heskett wrote: > Whats the deal in forcing everybody into rawhide when there is a show > topper bug extant and holding up the F11 release? F8's preupgrade is extremely buggy and out of date. (It was beta at the time, F9 is the first release where it's really usable.) But it will not get fixed

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen wrote: > If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they > will probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told > them they would have to buy hardware themselves they would scrap Linux, > and be cost justified. You shouldn't have bought

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Still running a 386 with Win98SE for one scanner, as long as it works I'm > not going to drop most of $1k to buy another. I really can't see throwing > out an expensive scanner to make a political (religious?) point of "only > Linux on my systems." There are really cheap sca

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim
FC10 How do you treat a l3886usb.arm firmware package in Fedora. How do you install it into /lib/firmware ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuid

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >>> On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: > David wrote: >>> Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
Jud Craft wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your contacts. Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype accounts, n

Re: Are you using LXDE?

2009-06-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right > approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE. > > How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it? > Would you find a Fedora LXDE

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Jud Craft
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is > install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your > contacts. Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype accounts, not merely a new

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 22:31 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > >> I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, > >> but don't see any way to do this under Linux. > > > > AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail > > contacts are

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, but don't see any way to do this under Linux. AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have

Are you using LXDE?

2009-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Some of us in Fedora are discussing about what would be the right approach for providing a good experience to those using LXDE. How many people here are using LXDE? What do you find good about it? Would you find a Fedora LXDE Live CD useful? Would it still be useful if it was a combined Xfce

Re: mistake about double posting [was:[Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk]]

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 00:47 +0530, kira.lau...@gmail.com wrote: > apparently i forgot to edit my account option to send me an acknowledgement > mail when i post to this list and so i double posted.Sorry about the mistake. You can also just look at the archives. See the URL at the end of every mes

Re: Blocking an IP for one user

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Paul wrote: Hi, My son is getting to that "funny" age whereby I need to keep certain sites away from him. Is there any way that I can block an IP address or certain keywords from his user settings so that it doesn't matter which browser he uses, he can't access them? For example, I want to blo

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jim wrote: On 06/01/2009 01:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/1 suvayu ali: 2009/6/1 Jim: Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
David wrote: >>> Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. >> Assuming you have to check the "Display unstable test releases" >> and then choose Rawhide, >> why not say this? >> >> It may be obvious to you, >> but would not be to many Fedora users. > Err... when Fedora 11 is released it will be offer

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 3:11 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/6/1 David : >> >> For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a >> preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. >> >> I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, >> eventually,

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 3:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >> On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: David wrote: >> Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I >> have to wait another wee

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jim wrote: FC10/Kde I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message from DMESG. usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2 usbcore: regi

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Rick Stevens
Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan : T&L capability Texture and Lighting capability. While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly generic "you can't run this game because...

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, >> but don't see any way to do this under Linux. > > AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail > contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines and have > never had t

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Alan Cox
> Actually I only want it to work in graphics mode, > my needs are minimal. In which case you are probably ok with the typical onboard video (for most boards). Even though the Nvidia reverse engineered 2D driver has no 3D support and is a bit patchy for render and fancy effects but quite solid

Re: ipv6 question

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Michael Fleming wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009 23:38:52 +0200 Michael Casey wrote: Hi I just want to ask one big question :) If I would have an IPv6 address [home pc, behind a router - supporting ipv6 e.g.: openwrt, ISP gives ipv6], then I can see an IPv6 address with ifconfig, on the PC e.g.: "

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: >> I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: >> >> 1. Cheap > There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges. > >> 2. T&L capability > I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently > available will have this

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >> 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan : >> > T&L capability >> >> Texture and Lighting capability. >> >> While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly >> generic "you can't run this game because..."

Input/output errors when reading data DVD

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I have recorded some data DVD some time ago. Now, I am trying to copy them to my hard disk, but I am always getting an 'input/output error'. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2009 02:05 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade >>> screen? >> >> .. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that pre

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 01 June 2009 19:56:20 Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Not always easy.  I printed out the whole list of known-to-work webcams, and > > couldn't find one of them in the store.  No box ever tells you what chipset > > is being used.  In the end I bought a cheap own-brand webcam.  To my surpris

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade >> screen? > >.. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that prevents it >from being a reliable method to upgrade to

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
David wrote: > > > For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a > preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. > > I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, > eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no pr

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> David wrote: > Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I > have to wait another week? Use preupgrade. Works like a charm.

rhythmbox software is lacking

2009-06-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
I don't know about F10 and F11 but of F9 rhythmbox is the only CD reading software that refuses to load CD information like a playlist. Can someone explain how to make it work properly.? -- === Don't look now, but the man in the mo

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/02/2009 12:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Then why is an update to F10 not presented as an option in the preupgrade > screen? .. because the preupgrade version in Fedora 9 has a bug that prevents it from being a reliable method to upgrade to Fedora 10. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fe

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2009/6/1 Timothy Murphy : > > I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: > > 1. Cheap There are cheap models in both Nvidia's and AMD/Ati's product ranges. > 2. T&L capability I'm not sure, but probably almost all graphics cards currently available will have this, and be ab

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, David wrote: >On 6/1/2009 10:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? >>> >>> Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. >>> >>> How to use PreUpgrade >>> >>> http://fedorap

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't want to have to use crappy buggy proprietary drivers which weren't even

mistake about double posting [was:[Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk]]

2009-06-01 Thread kira . laucas
apparently i forgot to edit my account option to send me an acknowledgement mail when i post to this list and so i double posted.Sorry about the mistake. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedo

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/6/1 David : > > > For Fedora 8 to Fedora 10 I can not say. Just this weekend I did a > preupgrade test of Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 that worked with no problems. > > I then did a preupgrade test of that same Fedora 10 to what will be, > eventually, Fedora 11 which is still Rawhide. Again with no p

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 12:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> David wrote: Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I have to wait another week? >>> Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. >>> >>> How to use PreUpgrade >>> >>> http://fed

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:23 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I would like to transfer my Skype contacts to someone else, > but don't see any way to do this under Linux. AFAIK your Skype contacts are held by Skype, rather like your Gmail contacts are held by Gmail. I use Skype from several machines a

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan : > > T&L capability > > Texture and Lighting capability. > > While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly > generic "you can't run this game because..." error which has been > pasted verbati

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote: True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet (or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years old, th

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread David
On 6/1/2009 10:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > David wrote: > >>> Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I >>> have to wait another week? > >> Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. >> >> How to use PreUpgrade >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade >> >> This will t

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... (Gene Heskett)

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said: > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:26:17 -0500, > Chris Adams wrote: > > HTTPS with an unknown self-signed cert is barely any more secure than > > unencrypted HTTP, since a man-in-the-middle attack could just be > > replacing the cert and decrypting all communi

Re: self-signed certificates (was Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...)

2009-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:08:08 -0700, "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" wrote: > > As for the man-in-the-middle attack, I'd imagine the biggest usage case > is an eavesdropped-in-the-middle and not someone that was able to break > the data stream and insert themselves. Having an encrypted channel with

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 20:27:37 Andras Simon wrote: On 5/28/09, Konstantin Svist wrote: Another example from my experience: I bought a Creative webcam on impulse (it was very cheap, found it on Slickdeals). Plug it in - no dice. Search for the drivers - nothing. Some simila

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... (Gene Heskett)

2009-06-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 13:26:17 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > > Most likely it's just a self-signed SSL certificate. Very common, and > > Firefox stupidly throws a fit over it (which is dumb because it encourages > > sites to just use unencrypted HTTP inste

Bluetooth rfcomm -- enabling serial stuff for a cell phone

2009-06-01 Thread Jud Craft
Hey there. I'm trying to use BitPim for one of my cell phones, but BitPim seems to only work well with COM ports. From an article at Ars Technica [1], I read how to map a Bluetooth channel to a com-port using /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf. (Under Windows the mapping is done automatically, but you m

Re: problem with my laptop

2009-06-01 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nebur Álvarez B. wrote: > hi!, before, my english is not very well, i'm sorry. > > i have a problem with my laptop (sony vaio vgn-nr330fe), when I execute many > process, fails gnome and kde, and them does nothing when i try do click in > anywhere place. I try fin

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/6/1 Timothy Murphy : > David wrote: > >>> Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I >>> have to wait another week? > >> Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. >> >> How to use PreUpgrade >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade >> >> This will take a while. A long

Re: EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Timothy Murphy wrote: Beartooth wrote: In any case, I decided to try Fedora-10, and found that much more to my liking. It actually worked better on my EeePC-4G, eg WiFi (to my surprise) worked out of the box, while eeebuntu seemed to require madwifi . I have the 701, one of the earliest smal

Re: help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk

2009-06-01 Thread kira . laucas
> > >> Sumit Agrawal wrote: > > >> > I am new for Fedora. > > >> > I was trying to install Fedora 10 core to my external USB 40GB harddisk > > >> > using bootable Fedora 10 core DVD. > > >> > I have unplugged all internal hard disk for any risk. > > >> > But while installation it was not detecting

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim
On 06/01/2009 12:51 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/1 Jim: On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jimmailto:mickey...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: FC10/Kde I'm trying

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Mike Cloaked
ravi2boxster wrote: > > > My About menu shows 2.0.72 - which is the latest for Linux I believe... > > The following guide still works for F10 I believe - not sure about F11 yet though? http://fedorasolved.org/multimedia-solutions/installing-skype -- View this message in context: http://w

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread suvayu ali
2009/6/1 Jim : > On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> >> Jim wrote: >>> >>> On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim >>> > wrote:    FC10/Kde    I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
Jim wrote: But the device I have is a WUSB54G is a USB device. The Firmware I downloaded is for the kernel I have and the firmware is the isl3886usb but another person told me to rename it to /lib/firmware/isl3890usb Am I missing something here ? Something that puzzles me is, I have X86_64 bo

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim
On 06/01/2009 01:02 PM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/1 suvayu ali: 2009/6/1 Jim: Modules that are loading p54usb 14208 0 p54common 20452 1 p54usb mac80211 194224 2 p54usb,p54common As you can see from this device list, your adapter i

Re: problem with my laptop

2009-06-01 Thread Les
On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 13:10 -0400, Nebur Álvarez B. wrote: > hi!, before, my english is not very well, i'm sorry. > > i have a problem with my laptop (sony vaio vgn-nr330fe), when I > execute many process, fails gnome and kde, and them does nothing when > i try do click in anywhere place. I try fi

Re: update to F11 with yum

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: >David wrote: >>> Is there a way I can try to upgrade now to what will be F11 or do I >>> have to wait another week? >> >> Use preupgrade. Works like a charm. >> >> How to use PreUpgrade >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade >> >> This will tak

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread Jim
I forgot to tell you that in menuconfig Prism54 USB Support(So it is enabled in Kernel) On 06/01/2009 12:15 PM, Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 01:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/31/2009 02:21 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Jim

Re: WUSB54G firmware

2009-06-01 Thread suvayu ali
2009/6/1 suvayu ali : > 2009/6/1 Jim : >> >> Modules that are loading >> >> p54usb                 14208  0 >> p54common              20452  1 p54usb >> mac80211              194224  2 p54usb,p54common >> > > As you can see from this device list, your adapter is not there. > http://wireless.kernel.

Re: Lappy has F8, network connection, whats best way to bring it up to F10?

2009-06-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 June 2009, Mike Burger wrote: >I do believe that preupgrade will work...if not, boot directly from the >F10 DVD and upgrade that way. > >At least, that's how I've been doing them. > Ok, that is installing via yum, whats next? Reboot? I has tried to build fmit on the F8 it has, but th

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread RS
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:25 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > RS wrote: > > > I just finished installing and configuring skype on F11 Pre. Get the > > "static" tar.bz2 file and untar. when you run the skype executable. it > > will complain about a bunch of missing .so files. INstall one by one and >

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
RS wrote: > I just finished installing and configuring skype on F11 Pre. Get the > "static" tar.bz2 file and untar. when you run the skype executable. it > will complain about a bunch of missing .so files. INstall one by one and > you can then launch skype. You may have to try a few tricks to get

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