Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:30 PM, g wrote: > Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > >> That won't work - there are too many files. > > maybe you need to write a script to delete them. > > using something like; > > cd /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-mplayer/plugin > find . -type f -name '*' -exec rm -f {} \; Sor

simple question

2009-07-25 Thread solarflow99
Does anyone have the file: cpufreq-userspace try a: find / -name cpufreq-userspace command to see, and if it exists, please also try: yum whatprovides cpufreq-userspace I cant find this file anywhere, and my laptop is overheating. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubsc

Re: F11 Sound without PulseAudio ?

2009-07-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Chris wrote: 2009/7/24 Bill Davidsen : Anyone who reads this list will know I despise PA totally, but vlc has worked fine for me using PA, in FC11, in FC11 running in a VM under FC9 KVM (from cli) and in FC9. Hi Bill. There was a discussion on this list a couple of hours ago in which someone

Re: Lost Desktop Icons in F11

2009-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/26/2009 03:51 AM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote: > When upgrading from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11 failed, I did a clean install > of Fedora 11 and restored my personal home directory including the > subdirectory .gconf from Fedora 10. I use Gnome for my desktop environment. Add another user and see if

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Craig White wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 19:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it >>> work, which is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default. >> >> ignoring the reality that PA works for most pe

Re: F10 mock build error: srpm md5 sum mismatch

2009-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/26/2009 05:12 AM, Clodoaldo Pinto Neto wrote: > Running Fedora 10. Two source rpms from fc11 with md5 sum mismatch: > > $ mock -r epel-5-x86_64 subversion-1.6.1-4.fc11.src.rpm > ERROR: Exception(subversion-1.6.1-4.fc11.src.rpm) > Config(epel-5-x86_64) 0 minutes 19 seconds Fedora 11 has swit

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> I would probably start at: >> http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/Documentation >> >> There is a nice menu on the right side that serves as a table of >> contents, as well as pointing to where to find information on things >> like userland programs. >> >

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Four of six had simple output to the laptop speakers work after install, > the two desktops had two channel from the sound card, no setting I've > found will enable the other speakers from any source, even on hardware > which had 5.1 with Windows and FC6. > You may want

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread solarflow99
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Farkas Levente wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Alan Cox > wrote: > > > >> "all of my system has a wrong openssl version" > >> > >> all these symptoms sound like your upgrade w

yum cleanup

2009-07-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
I have been running yum with keepcache=1 to save rpms I install. Being busy I seem to have gotten several versions of some packages in /var/cache/yum. Is there a command which will delete anything listed in obsoletes without losing my copy of the most recent? I create a local archive of recent

Re: F11 Sound without PulseAudio ?

2009-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: > No, on the machine with vlc PA works fine for two channel output, with > vlc, xine, mplayer, mpg321, audacity, etc. I was making the point that > removing PA has not been required on that machine. If PA has a menu to > enable 4ch, 5.1ch, etc I've never found it, but just two

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread R. G. Newbury
gil...@altern.org wrote: R. G. Newbury wrote: > Even better are the stupid messes where there is NO default setting to > change. Google 'kstartupconfig4 error 3' No-one, and I mean no-one knows > what causes this, or how to fix it. It seems somebody at the Fedora Forum had the same problem

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread David Boles
Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:34 AM, David Boles wrote: >> >> (K)Ubuntu has its place. They are distribution for the 'install it and >> forget it' crowd. They do all the setups and configuration and all of >> the nanny hand holding. This 'install it and forget it' crowd then sits

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 25 July 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote: >Craig White wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 19:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it >>> work, which >>> is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default. >> >> >> ignoring the r

F11 after auto update locks on boot-up

2009-07-25 Thread Vincent Onelli
Hi, I accept the automatic update of F11, after the installation was completed I rebooted and noted that nothing was changed, so I reboot again this time I press down arrow to select the boot, and I noted that there was an additional line added for f11 so I selected it, the boot start few line s

Re: simple question

2009-07-25 Thread stan
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:13:26 +0800 solarflow99 wrote: > Does anyone have the file: cpufreq-userspace > > try a: find / -name cpufreq-userspace command to see, and if it > exists, please also try: yum whatprovides cpufreq-userspace > > I cant find this file anywhere, and my laptop is overhea

RE: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Markus Kesaromous
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:30:03 +0800 From: solarflo...@gmail.com To: maths...@gmail.com; fedora-list@redhat.com CC: Subject: Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Farkas Levente wrote:

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:34 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 19:31 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> If it doesn't work out of the box there are no tools to ever make it > >> work, which > >> is why PA should be in the toybox, not the default. > > > >

RE: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Markus Kesaromous
> From: craigwh...@azapple.com > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:48:37 -0700 > Subject: Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ? > > On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:34 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Craig White wrote: >>> On

Re: Problem with new Samsung HM121hc disc

2009-07-25 Thread Mick M.
--- On Sat, 7/25/09, DB wrote: > Anyone any ideas how to check that what I have is > compatible with my system before I ship it back? (purcahsed > in the UK whilst visiting, now back in Austria.) > > As ever, all suggestions greatfully received! > > Dave read this: http://downloadcenter.

(no subject)

2009-07-25 Thread Markus Kesaromous
Building latest F11 kernel 2.6.29.6-213 ... # amke install modules_install . . . WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-215.fc11.i586/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.ko needs unknown symbol speedstep_get_processor_frequency WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-215.fc11.i586/kernel/arch/x86/k

Re: update for thunderbird on f11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Steven W. Orr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/25/09 13:35, quoth Mail Lists: > On 07/24/2009 12:24 AM, g wrote: >> Mail Llists wrote: >> >> i follow support-thunderbird list and i do hate to say it, but there are a >> lot >> of bugs that need to be fix. >> > > > I follow tb devel too - a

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread William Case
Hi Mikkel; Still no sound. On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 13:30 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > > Hi Mikkel; > > > > There is probably no need to reply to this post -- unless you see > > something obviously wrong. I am just posting to get the results on the > > record -- so to

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread stan
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:40:58 -0700 Markus Kesaromous wrote: > > I have watched this thread for a couple of days, and finally decided > to throw in my $.02's worth. > 1. I had absolutely NO problems with F11's installation. > 2. I did have a problem with the fact that the Kernel does not enable >

Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread g
Fernando Cassia wrote: > Sorry, I might be missing something, but what is wrong with cd'ing to > /home/ranbir/.cache/gnome-player > and doing rm-rf plugin > and then re-creating it (mkdir plugin)? well, now that you mention it, nothing wrong with that. as long as he does not still get a 'too man

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread stan
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:56:59 -0700 Markus Kesaromous wrote: > On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:34 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Craig White wrote: > > pulse audio is little more than a collection layer for audio from > > various sources. I am fairly convinced that most of the griping I > > see on thi

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/26/2009 07:51 AM, stan wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:40:58 -0700 > Markus Kesaromous wrote: >> >> I have watched this thread for a couple of days, and finally decided >> to throw in my $.02's worth. >> 1. I had absolutely NO problems with F11's installation. >> 2. I did have a problem wit

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread William Case
Hi Michael; I have removed PulseAudio and re-installed the firmware for cx23885. On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 11:52 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:49:06 -0400, William wrote: dmesg now seems content. ]$ dmesg cx23885 driver version 0.0.1 loaded cx23885 :02:00.0: PCI INT A

Re: processor modules, Was: (no subject)

2009-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:14 -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote: > > Building latest F11 kernel 2.6.29.6-213 ... > > # amke install modules_install > . > . > . > WARNING: > /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-215.fc11.i586/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.ko > needs unknown symbol speedstep_get_proc

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Joe Klemmer
oleksandr korneta wrote: I don't do upgrades either, since the time rh9 to fc1 didn't work for me. But I dont complain, kind of got used to the idea that fedora is not made for upgrades. However, fresh install every time takes too much time for deploying all the old tweaked configs and stuff.

Re: Firefox 3.5.1 broke my flash 3.5 worked fine

2009-07-25 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:48:48 -0400, Randall J. Berry wrote: > Is anyone else having problems with flash locking up after updating > firefox to 3.5.1? I've noticed it on several flash pages that sound > locks up or it completely locks the video. Things such as youtube have > miraculously become unw

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Joe Klemmer
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Fedora doesn't enable them because they aren't in the upstream kernel (not counting the staging tree) RPM Fusion repository has the kernel modules. # yum install kmod-rt2860 or kmod-rt2870 Is there a list of all the available repositories that are available for Fedora

Fedora repositories

2009-07-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/26/2009 09:39 AM, Joe Klemmer wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Fedora doesn't enable them because they aren't in the upstream kernel >> (not counting the staging tree) >> >> RPM Fusion repository has the kernel modules. >> >> # yum install kmod-rt2860 or kmod-rt2870 > > Is there a li

Re: What the hell are these dirs?

2009-07-25 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 02:22 +, g wrote: > i believe the main thing he needs to do is clean them up on a regular > bases. I will start doing that. It just sucks I never noticed this earlier. > i believe biggest part of problem is that gnome-player does not clean > up files, as it is acting li

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread gilpel
Suvayu Ali wrote: > *ubuntu is not that install and forget if you want to do something > serious. I use Fedora 11 at home and Xubuntu 8.04 for work, and every > time I try out something not conventional Fedora works flawlessly > whereas Xubuntu fails big time. I hate it, but the management at our

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread gilpel
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Very long emails are less likely to be read, especially when they're so > discursive. You seem to be more interested in topics such as market > share than actual technical content Mikkel L. Ellertson thinks the same. I suppose you're not both wrong, but there are some

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread gilpel
Geoff wrote: > And *that* answer does not work. My home dir was already 'user:user'. > I have also confirmed the chcon context is now > 'unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t:s0' for /home/user > > And it doesn't work! Still get the error and no login. Sorry it didn't work. I'd like to help you mo

Re: update for thunderbird on f11 ?

2009-07-25 Thread Mail Lists
On 07/25/2009 10:16 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: > I would love to upgrade but I have not yet had a chance to go to F11. I tried > to build an RPM from the F11 src.rpm but it died in the middle of a compile. > If anyone would like to take a stab at building the src rpm for x86 on F10 I'd > be happy to

Re: 3G-device for fedora 11?

2009-07-25 Thread Joerg Bergmann
Am 17.07.2009 15:15, schrieb David Timms: On 07/17/2009 08:24 PM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: I want to make my thinkpad T40 G3-enabled. It has a CardBus slot, USB is available too. Any suggestion for a fedora 11-friendly device? HSDPA/HSUPA should be possible. The couple of different ones I'v trie

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:18:54 -0400, William wrote: > To get a clean start by first getting tvtime working with ALSA alone, I > removed PulseAudio, rebooted and ran: 1) No need to reboot. You could have killed the pulseaudio daemon. 2) Since tvtime doesn't do any audio playback, it doesn't have m

Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?

2009-07-25 Thread gilpel
RAhul Sandaram wrote: > On 07/25/2009 09:53 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >> Jul 23 15:45:05 Updated: brasero-libs-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 >> Maybe the 32 bit version that you use always worked, I have no idea. I inquired about this too and had no answer. >> I can't discuss the matter further NOW. S

Re: Playing quicktime movies on Firefox

2009-07-25 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Suvayu" == suvayu ali writes: Suvayu> 2009/7/25 Colin Paul Adams : >> I don't know anything about MozPlugger - is it supposed to >> invoke totem? The dropdown gives one alternative (Use Movie >> Player (default)). Does this mean totem? I'm going to try it >> and see if

Re: 3G-device for fedora 11?

2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 07/26/2009 12:22 AM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: > > > Am 17.07.2009 15:15, schrieb David Timms: >> On 07/17/2009 08:24 PM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: >>> I want to make my thinkpad T40 G3-enabled. It has a >>> CardBus slot, USB is available too. Any suggestion for >>> a fedora 11-friendly device? HSDPA/

Re: 3G-device for fedora 11?

2009-07-25 Thread Joerg Bergmann
Am 26.07.2009 07:30, schrieb Thomas Cameron: On 07/26/2009 12:22 AM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Am 17.07.2009 15:15, schrieb David Timms: On 07/17/2009 08:24 PM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: I want to make my thinkpad T40 G3-enabled. It has a CardBus slot, USB is available too. Any suggestion for a fed

Re: yum verify

2009-07-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 20:54:56 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to check the integrety of my installation. Is their an > option of yum which could let me check all the packages and download > the one which are not correct ? > > rpm let me verify, but not download. You can

Re: active network connection stops working...

2009-07-25 Thread charles zeitler
first, thanks again for your replies. Rick, no worries, i was not led astray, just having to digest the info a byte at a time... Tony, i believe chances are you're right, & possibly the problem is at my provider's end... Mikkel, my context on /etc/ppp/ip-up matches yours & permissions on resolv.c

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