Fwd: Power Managemet Testday 22. Oct 2009

2009-10-22 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
Original Message Subject:Power Managemet Testday 22. Oct 2009 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jan Scotka jsco...@redhat.com To: Marcela Maslanova mmasl...@redhat.com Hi folks, Today 2009-10-22 is planned next Power Management Test Day. We

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-22 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Wednesday 21 October 2009 23:27:31 Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 15:16 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: Today I upgrade my Fedora to Fedora 12 Beta, It looks very well. But I found ATi display driver does not run well. My display card is Sapphire HD3650 with 256MB GDDR3

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-22 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 21.10.2009 23:35, Adam Williamson napsal(a): 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something wrong is happening while udev loading I have filed a bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528312 ... if you run udevadm monitor

Re: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)

2009-10-22 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/10/21 John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com: 520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED  - Software Update windows checks for update does not stop .. This has been reported by one person (no dupes), and I'm still waiting for more information. I suspect it's actually a hardware problem or file-system

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

2009-10-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 09:46, Marcus Moeller a écrit : is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? Something like: for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done If you have multiple sources that's usually a sign you're doing something wrong. It is very

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

2009-10-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi, is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? Something like: for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done Best Regards Marcus %setup -q -c -n %{name} -a 0 -a 1 -a 2 -a 3 -a 4 -a 5 -a 6 -a 7 -a 8

What does it mean package not tagged as an update candidate?

2009-10-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I'm trying to create an update for a new package (mingw32-freeglut, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528892) in F-12, but I get the error below: $ make update [...] Creating a new update for mingw32-freeglut-2.6.0-0.1.rc1.fc12 mingw32-freeglut-2.6.0-0.1.rc1.fc12 not tagged

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 22 October 2009 at 00:07, Tom Lane wrote: Lyos Gemini Norezel lyos.gemininore...@gmail.com writes: Why not just require a secondary email address? Require a secondary email address? Not everyone has one, or wants to hand it over if they do. That sounds more like a recipe for

Re: Unable to download Fedora 12 beta using jigdo

2009-10-22 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah
Hi again, I finally managed to create the image by downloading net install .iso image and providing its install.img to jigdo! Good luck, Hedayat On ۰۹/۱۰/۲۲ 03:55, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote: Hi, I'm trying to download F12 beta DVD x86_64 iso using jigdo (I've used jigdo to download previous

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Milos Jakubicek
Hi, On 21.10.2009 20:10, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: * Should we formalize the unwritten policy for Red Hat maintainers who leave the company and don't want to maintain their packages anymore? * Do we need sanity checks to be sure maintainers who do want to keep their packages do so? I

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:10:22AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: * Should we expedite these requests in the future if the email address for the maintainer is no longer in existence? Yes, please. If the mail address of a maintainers do not work anymore, then their packages should be orphaned,

Unreadable binaries

2009-10-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
$ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown $ ll /usr/bin/chsh -rws--x--x 1 root root 18072 2009-10-05 16:28 /usr/bin/chsh What is the purpose of making binaries like these unreadable? Originally I thought it was something to do with them

Re: What does it mean package not tagged as an update candidate?

2009-10-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:26:06 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: I'm trying to create an update for a new package (mingw32-freeglut, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528892) in F-12, but I get the error below: $ make update [...] Creating a new

Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

2009-10-22 Thread Jindrich Novy
Hi, I would like to announce couple of major changes in the TeX Live 2009 repository. The main improvements are: * TL2009 now contains virtual provides to resolve dependencies among .sty files. This assures you have a complete set of other styles installed in order to use one. To install a

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
On 10/06/2009 06:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:27 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I'll create a patch for the scripts generating the livecd to add rd_NO_LUKS to the normal livecd syslinux.cfg entry. I already was planning on doing this, but I

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-22 Thread Hans de Goede
On 10/22/2009 01:46 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: On 10/06/2009 06:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:27 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: Thanks for bringing this up. I'll create a patch for the scripts generating the livecd to add rd_NO_LUKS to the normal livecd syslinux.cfg entry.

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-22 Thread Liang Suilong
Hi, I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly how slow it is, is there anything I can use for measuring? Michal btw,

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-22 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 10/22/2009 01:56 PM, Liang Suilong wrote: I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. I noticed that performance with KMS is more

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

2009-10-22 Thread Neal Becker
Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, I would like to announce couple of major changes in the TeX Live 2009 repository. Where? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

2009-10-22 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:30:37AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, I would like to announce couple of major changes in the TeX Live 2009 repository. Where? In the Fedora TeX Live 2009 testing repository, for more info:

Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-22 Thread Stephen Smalley
Hi, /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut. Is that intentional? Also, any ideas on why a dracut-generated initramfs image generated for a kernel.org kernel tree would

Re: Fedora 12 Blocker Bug Meeting #1 :: 2009-10-23 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)

2009-10-22 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 08:47 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/10/21 John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com: 520750 - PackageKit - ASSIGNED - Software Update windows checks for update does not stop .. This has been reported by one person (no dupes), and I'm still waiting for more information.

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

2009-10-22 Thread Mat Booth
2009/10/22 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi, is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? Something like: for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done Best Regards Marcus %setup -q -c -n

Orphan Package: system-config-cluster (was Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2)

2009-10-22 Thread Steven Whitehouse
Hi, On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 11:10 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:11:37AM +0100, Steven Whitehouse wrote: Hi, Jim Parsons left Red Hat a little while back and the only contact details I have is his Red Hat email address, which is of course no longer valid. I've

Re: F12 media-less installer totally broken

2009-10-22 Thread Chris Lumens
- Put the iso on a ntfs partition - Put the vmlinuz+initrd.img in F11's grub .. and boot into the installer, pointing it to install from HDD - The installer cannot pickup the iso Yeah this probably won't work because of the NTFSness, but what's the exact error message? What does the log on

Re: Upload debug-like-info to Mozilla servers every update

2009-10-22 Thread Jan Horak
On 10/14/2009 03:40 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jan Horakjho...@redhat.com wrote: Mozilla prefers using their own system in this case. It has some pros, like user don't have to download debug packages (which is approx 80MB for each package). Building the

Re: Unreadable binaries

2009-10-22 Thread Stephen Smalley
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: $ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown $ ll /usr/bin/chsh -rws--x--x 1 root root 18072 2009-10-05 16:28

F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-21 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap

2009-10-22 Thread James Laska
#fedora-bugzappers: F-12-Blocker bug review (part#1) Meeting started by jlaska at 15:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at

Fedora Test Day Summary - Confined Users

2009-10-22 Thread Eduard Benes
Greetings! This Tuesday was the Confined Users Test Day / FitFinish [1] (TD/FF). Though we expected higher attendance, the results are really valuable. The most valuable outcome of a test day could be a fact that we should bring more attention/people to using/testing SELinux policy and related

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-22 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 17:08 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:31 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts 1 - during

Status of multiseat feature

2009-10-22 Thread Linus Walleij
Is anyone actively working on multiseat? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat Linus Walleij -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their packages, they can just change the owner of the package to their new private account before leaving Red Hat. That assumes the maintainer knows they're leaving Red Hat ahead

The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous attempts (including the current no frozen rawhide wiki page). So I felt it prudent to forward it along to the devel list for more eyes to look upon it

Re: Status of multiseat feature

2009-10-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:20 +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: Is anyone actively working on multiseat? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Multiseat The necessary infrastructure for multiseat is (slowly) being developed in ConsoleKit and gdm branches upstream. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Jon Masters
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: This is my vision on how to accomplish both a always active development stream, and a more stable pending release stream, keeping everybody happy. Want to help? I'll be at FUDCon Toronto discussing roadblocks to this vision and

Re: Unreadable binaries

2009-10-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:59:00AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:04 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: $ ll /usr/libexec/pt_chown -rws--x--x 1 root root 28418 2009-09-28 13:42 /usr/libexec/pt_chown $ ll

Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread King InuYasha
Hello, I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. http://icculus.org/fatelf/ There is even a proof of concept VM

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Jon Masters
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 12:28 -0500, King InuYasha wrote: http://icculus.org/fatelf/ There is even a proof of concept VM of Ubuntu 9.04 that has both 32-bit and 64-bit kernels and all the apps compiled as FatELF binaries Except, they're not really ELF binaries. ELF doesn't allow you to do

Re: rawhide report: 20091022 changes

2009-10-22 Thread Quentin Armitage
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:06 +, Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Thu Oct 22 06:15:12 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- openscada-visStation-0.6.4-3.fc12.i686 requires openscada-Special-FlibSYS Updated Packages:

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-22 Thread Quentin Armitage
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 20:20 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I thought with the mass rebuild the i586 rpms were suppose to be gone but it seems the F-12 repository still has quite a few of them. Are the old packages that should have been blocked, ones that's that weren't rebuilt for

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.10.2009 19:38, schrieb Jon Masters: Except, they're not really ELF binaries. ELF doesn't allow you to do both at the same time in the headers, so this adds a new header and is essentially an encapsulation for other ELF files. Thus, a kernel

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:43 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.10.2009 19:38, schrieb Jon Masters: Except, they're not really ELF binaries. ELF doesn't allow you to do both at the same time in the headers, so this adds a new header and is

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous attempts (including the current no frozen rawhide wiki page). So I felt it prudent to forward

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
King InuYasha wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. http://icculus.org/fatelf/ Yuck!!! Please

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: So to make this a reality, we need to ensure that whatever is in rawhide has a *=* ENVR than anything in the other trees. So I assume that when submitting a bodhi update, bodhi would check rawhide and ensure that whatever you were about

Re: rawhide report: 20091022 changes

2009-10-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Quentin Armitage wrote: Error: xorg-x11-proto-devel conflicts with libXxf86dga-devel [snip] Should the Rawhide report have identified this as a broken dependency? No. The Rawhide report only lists unresolvable dependencies, not conflicts. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread King InuYasha
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: King InuYasha wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:02 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: So to make this a reality, we need to ensure that whatever is in rawhide has a *=* ENVR than anything in the other trees. So I assume that when submitting a bodhi update, bodhi

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Jon Ciesla
King InuYasha wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at mailto:kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: King InuYasha wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:02 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 10:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: So to make this a reality, we need to ensure that whatever is in rawhide has a *=* ENVR than anything in the other trees. So I assume that when submitting a bodhi update, bodhi

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Rex Dieter
Tomas Mraz wrote: We could allow adding numbers after the dist tag in release for this purpose. That is already allowed, and encouraged, for branch-specific modfications, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Minor_release_bumps_for_old_branches -- Rex --

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

2009-10-22 Thread Jiri Cerny
Hi Jindrich, (sorry for not replaying to the original message, I was reading the list through archives) I was using TeXLive 2009 repository before, without any problem. After seeing your message, I followed the instruction In case you have an older TL2009 installed on your system from the

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Alexander Boström
tor 2009-10-22 klockan 12:28 -0500 skrev King InuYasha: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. There's

Re: Major reorganization of TeX Live packages

2009-10-22 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 22 October 2009 19:46:29 Jiri Cerny wrote: Hi Jindrich, (sorry for not replaying to the original message, I was reading the list through archives) I was using TeXLive 2009 repository before, without any problem. After seeing your message, I followed the instruction In

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:39 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Tomas Mraz wrote: We could allow adding numbers after the dist tag in release for this purpose. That is already allowed, and encouraged, for branch-specific modfications,

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:17 +0200, Michal Hlavinka wrote: For the slow 2D performance - _how_ slow is it, really? gnome-terminal has never been much of a speed demon. Does it get any faster if you boot with 'nomodeset' as a kernel parameter? Hi, I've installed F-12 beta on my new

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:07 +, Mat Booth wrote: 2009/10/22 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi, is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? Something like: for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:33 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: Good point. SCM commit time (or tag time) with a CVS hook would be awesome as long as the hook was fast enough. Note, I didn't say CVS, I said SCM (: -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca:

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:54 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous attempts (including the current no frozen rawhide wiki page). []

Re: Eternal 'good file hashes' list

2009-10-22 Thread David Stark
On 10/21/2009 07:47 AM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: Hi. On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:40:46 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: In most cases, you can get that information from the original RPM compared to the system... if you have the RPM :). rpm -Vppackage_file_goes_here Which is pretty much what I

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:28:36 -0500, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:56 +0800, Liang Suilong wrote: To Adam Williamson I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. Thanks for

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:25 -0400, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: In this day and age? It's highly unusual for people to only have one. I'd say it's rather more common than it used to be; many people don't use ISP email any more, they just use a gmail or Yahoo! or whatever account for everything.

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their packages, they can just change the owner of the package to their new private account before leaving Red Hat.

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:50 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous attempts (including the current no frozen rawhide wiki page). So I felt it prudent to forward

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:47 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:50:54 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all. It has been brought to my attention that my description of my future vision of rawhide as explained here is much clearer than previous attempts

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their packages, they can just change the owner of the package to their new private account before leaving Red Hat.

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their packages, they can just change the owner of the package to

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Pete Zaitcev writes: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:28:36 -0500, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 23:20, Jesse Keating a écrit : So you can continue to run rawhide all you want. Your entry point to rawhide may change slightly, you may have to start with the current Fedora release or the current testing release for the next Fedora, and then upgrade to the rawhide

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:42 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: Perhaps no one should be using their @redhat.com address for Fedora work :-/ We generally discourage it but several still do it. Uh, we do? No-one's ever indicated that to me. Why would it be discouraged? Doesn't RH like its

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:42:16PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks do you mean? If maintainers want to keep their

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 22 octobre 2009 23:45, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:42 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: Perhaps no one should be using their @redhat.com address for Fedora work :-/ We generally discourage it but several still do it. Uh, we do? No-one's ever indicated that to

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:02:42 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, but it may happen before the bodhi stage, when we get autoqa working on post-build tests. This kind of check could happen at SCM commit time, package build time, or finally bodhi push time. Seems

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:42:16PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:43:46AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 11:16 +0200, Till Maas wrote: What kind of checks

pxe-kexec

2009-10-22 Thread Ed Swierk
A few months ago I put together a package for pxe-kexec, a tool that uses kexec to boot already-running machine from a PXE server, which is handy for kicking off OS installs remotely. The package has been reviewed and is ready to go, except I'm not sponsored and haven't found the time to become

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:26 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I actually have both. rhel bugs get assigned to svidal at redhat.com fedora bugs go to skvidal at sethdot.org Many people aren't willing to jump through the hoops necessary to manage that separation. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom²

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 14:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I have two particular nits with it. One, it's pretty unwieldy, especially for part time maintainers (thinking how many hoops we'll have to jump through just to keep our packages up to date). Having to jump through the Bodhi hoops

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Miller
I think this is an awesome idea, and yes I think this version of the verbage is more clear. Kudos to Jesse (and all those involved in the development of the idea of the split rawhide) and I hope to see this come to fruition. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-22 Thread Milos Jakubicek
Hi, On 22.10.2009 19:29, Quentin Armitage wrote: 1. Is the script that is run and produces the output at http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/needed-f12-rebuilds.html actually the script referred to at the bottom of that page (https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/browser/scripts) ? The reason I ask is

RE: pxe-kexec

2009-10-22 Thread Scott_Collier
I'll take it if that's ok. I'm new to packaging and looking for more experience. -Scott -Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Ed Swierk Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:12 PM To: Development

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-22 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 18:26 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I actually have both. rhel bugs get assigned to svidal at redhat.com fedora bugs go to skvidal at sethdot.org Many people aren't willing to jump through the hoops necessary to manage that

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
King InuYasha wrote: I dunno, it could be useful for Live CDs/USBs. It would let you pack multiple arches onto a single LiveCD/USB. The Live CDs are already full without supporting this completely useless feature. Surely, the real solution is to position the 64-bit version more prominently

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Miller
I would also like to jump on the help train if there is anything I am able to lend a hand with. -Adam (From Android) On Oct 22, 2009 9:05 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Adam Miller wrote: I think this is an awesome idea, and yes I think this ve... I agree, how

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alexander Boström wrote: There's already lib / lib64 for parallell-installation of libraries, though granted it's limited to only two arches, but yes, something that covers bin too would be useful. bin is not multilib for a reason. You don't need 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit machine unless

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-10-22 Thread Gerry Reno
Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find anything interesting, feel free to pick it

[Bug 24613] fc-query can't query face 0

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24613 --- Comment #4 from Akira TAGOH ak...@tagoh.org 2009-10-21 23:37:27 PST --- (In reply to comment #3) Indeed, in the pattern you got after modifying that line, you see that charset is empty, that is, fontconfig could not recognize any

[Bug 24613] fc-query can't query face 0

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24613 --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-10-22 00:31:46 PST --- The correct solution is probably to write a filter that adds the freetype info to the font files, so they become normal unicody fonts any font libe

[Bug 530285] New: Specific Information about default font need to be displayed on global font settings' GUI

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Specific Information about default font need to be displayed on global font settings' GUI https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530285 Summary: Specific

[Bug 530285] Specific Information about default font need to be displayed on global font settings' GUI

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530285 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=225617 --- Comment #24 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2009-10-22 05:07:15 EDT --- (In reply to comment #23) 2. You

[Bug 526204] Review Request: ucs-fixed-fonts selected set of bitmap fonts

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526204 --- Comment #7 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2009-10-22 06:01:59 EDT --- updated package link

rpms/msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-10-22 Thread Robin Sonefors
Author: ozamosi Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19493 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Log Message: .cvsignore and sources entries for source Index: .cvsignore

rpms/msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts/devel msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts-fontconfig.conf, NONE, 1.1 msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts.spec, NONE, 1.1

2009-10-22 Thread Robin Sonefors
Author: ozamosi Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv25401 Added Files: msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts-fontconfig.conf msimonson-anonymouspro-fonts.spec Log Message: Add missing files --- NEW FILE

[Bug 24613] fc-query can't query face 0

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24613 Behdad Esfahbod freedesk...@behdad.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED

[Bug 529196] Review Request: ms-anonymouspro-fonts - AnonymousPro fonts

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529196 --- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-10-22 11:11:18 EDT ---

rpms/gdouros-aegean-fonts/devel gdouros-aegean-fonts-fontconfig.conf, NONE, 1.1 gdouros-aegean-fonts.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-10-22 Thread Robin Sonefors
Author: ozamosi Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/gdouros-aegean-fonts/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16603 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: gdouros-aegean-fonts-fontconfig.conf gdouros-aegean-fonts.spec Log Message: First version --- NEW

[Bug 508899] Monospace no more

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508899 --- Comment #12 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com 2009-10-22 11:57:43 EDT --- I believe this is fixed in freetype

[Bug 511580] FTBFS fonts-KOI8-R-1.0-11.fc11

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511580 Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 529594] pango uses different fonts for LATIN and COMMON glyphs

2009-10-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529594 --- Comment #20 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com 2009-10-22 15:04:59 EDT --- Maybe someone can first describe what

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