Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mairin Duffy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: PRIMARY TARGET * Free and open source software enthusiasts, developers, and remixers. I haven't polled the entire team about it, but I can pretty much guarantee you that this description is _not_ what we see as the target audience for

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Perhaps they should also register themselves via the bottom of this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page Create an IRC channel at #fedora-desktop and get involved. FWIW, I've never heard of a Fedora Desktop team. No offense, but... First

Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Luya Tshimbalanga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Blame me for pushing Echo through FESCO. After following suggestion for submitting it to FESCO, I was a bit surprised that icon set was accepted. As one of the FESCo members who accepted it, I'll take the blame for this. I assumed that Echo was at

Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Máirín Duffy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: An isometric perspective is used for the panel-size icons which will make it nearly impossible to fit in with the many upstream application icons that tend to follow the gnome-icon-theme and tango guidelines by default these days. I think some tough

Re: CIA integration

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: So I was going through some old tickets and stumbled across this: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/164 I gave it a quick look over and I'm not against this integration but I'm generally apathetic about it. So I ask if anyone

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Seemingly divergent netboot/disklessrc and livecd/mayflower for initrd, init, etc...

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bryan J Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: - Netboot/disklessrc The current approach in system-config-netboot for Diskless clients is legacy (not even nash, so it looks like some re-use from circa-2003 or even earlier), but the disklessrc approach with they way it loads in the Diskless initrd

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Seemingly divergent netboot/disklessrc and livecd/mayflower for initrd, init, etc...

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bryan J Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Understand that, but there is still a modification of NFS boot for Diskless/Stateless in RHEL 5, even if based on older developments. Not sure what you mean by 'a modification'. The support *is there in the stock initrd in RHEL 5*. Attempting to

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Seemingly divergent netboot/disklessrc and livecd/mayflower for initrd, init, etc...

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bryan J Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 10:41 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Not sure what you mean by 'a modification'. The support *is there in the stock initrd in RHEL 5*. Support is there, yes. But for diskless to work, or should I say, as system-config-netboot

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Seemingly divergent netboot/disklessrc and livecd/mayflower for initrd, init, etc...

2008-10-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bryan J Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Agreed. Which is why I just wanted to take what works in the Stateless Tech Preview in RHEL 5.2 (5.1+) and make a more LiveCD/mayflower-like approach. Use Anaconda to install to a directory, then post-process the initrd for Diskless, disk (including

F10 artwork questions

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Some general questions: When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking... (Also, is it known late this release, and scheduled to be earlier in future releases?) The poster on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Solar - it doesn't appear to be valid English,

Re: F10 artwork questions

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Nicu Buculei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking... (Also, is it known late this release, and scheduled to be earlier in future releases?) As I understand, the final Solar images received OK and are ready for packaging. I am not

Re: F10 artwork questions

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Máirín Duffy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: When is it going to land for integration and review? Time is ticking... Peter already has the artwork for syslinux and grub. The wallpapers are ready to be checked in. I'm going to be working with Ray to make this happen this week likely. The

Re: Solar backrounds - enable by default?

2008-10-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Martin Sourada ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: We need to enable them by default, I believe Mo is taking care of it? There's one concern though - the size of the package is 37.4 MiB. Is there a chance to make it smaller, or is it the best we can achieve? That may be an issue for the livecd. The

Re: Fedora Remix mark

2008-10-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Paul W. Frields ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: By Nicu and Mo: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2a/Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_mizmo_1.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2a/Fedora_secondary_logo_drafts_nicubunu_mizmo_1.svg I like the rounded #13 here. I'm not really sure

Re: de-modularising for the win!

2008-10-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dave Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 11:25:49AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: Bill Nottingham wrote: See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions. Comments? (The netfilter stuff needs further investigation.) Also, please add these, since they're

Re: de-modularising for the win!

2008-09-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jon Masters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Really? Do you have actual stats for the number (percentage) of Fedora users that *actually* need to update their modules (as opposed to following some blindly ridiculous message-board advice...) Nope. I'm just taking the viewpoint that users

Re: rawhide patches.

2008-09-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dave Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: linux-2.6-defaults-fat-utf8.patch Drop? Isn't this a local choice similar to the later ones? linux-2.6-net-silence-noisy-printks.patch linux-2.6-piix3-silence-quirk.patch linux-2.6-quiet-iommu.patch linux-2.6-silence-acpi-blacklist.patch

Echo vs the destkop

2008-09-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
When we approved Echo as the default icon theme for F10, I was under the assumption that this was already more or less known as a feature to the Desktop group, and they were OK with the coverage provided and the experience given. Is that the case? Looking at the desktop now (beta), I see: - at

(no subject)

2008-09-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 16:13 -0700, Bill Nottingham wrote: - killing the initrd for that general 90% case can be a big win Ermm, the general 90% (or some large-ish generalizing percentage) are set up to use LVM. Which then requires

de-modularising for the win!

2008-09-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions. Comments? (The netfilter stuff needs further investigation.) Bill ? patch-2.6.27-rc1-git2.bz2 ? patch-2.6.27-rc1.bz2 Index: config-generic === RCS file:

Re: de-modularising for the win!

2008-09-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom spot Callaway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 12:13 -0700, Bill Nottingham wrote: See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions. Comments? (The netfilter stuff needs further investigation.) Fly on the wall here, but wouldn't demodularizing the SCSI stack cause

Re: de-modularising for the win!

2008-09-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
[1] Or someone can dig up the patches for dynamic loop allocation and finish them off :-) Already exists. Try 'mknod loop23 ; losetup ...'... Bill ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com

Re: de-modularising for the win!

2008-09-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Chris Snook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: See various and sundry plumber's conf discussions. Links please? Not sure where things are being posted. Summary: - modules are wasteful (you lose a good chunk of code size savings in page round up) - modules are slow (well, modprobe is) - for the

Re: Removal of old projects from fedorahosted.

2008-09-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: [1]https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/714 So I guess the best thing from here is to send an email to each group notifying them of what has happened and why we'd like to remove their project. tell them how to get the code off if

Re: rawhide, /mnt/koji and /pub/fedora

2008-08-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jesse Keating ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: So I realized something last night. We created a user masher to have the ability to write to /mnt/koji/mash/ but not any of the other koji space. This is useful to prevent too much damage from a horribly wrong rawhide compose. To make things easier

[PATCH] be less annoying on boot

2008-08-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
As long as we're printing mostly useless messages on every boot regardless of debug level, make them 5% more amusing. Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- linux-2.6.26.noarch/arch/x86/kernel/head64.c.foo2008-08-01 15:44:28.0 -0400 +++ linux-2.6.26.noarch/arch/x86

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: Attention Spin Maintainers

2008-07-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
Rex Dieter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Spin Maintainers, may I please have your attention. To be included in the Fedora 10 release cycle, you'll need a Feature page in category ProposedFeature (and change that to the ProposedFeatureF10 category when you feel

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jarod Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a .noarch.rpm, but we can't get that until we start to build it from a separate srpm. We actually *can* make it noarch without much effort -- remember, the kernel is a special beast that actually does get a

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: [RFC] Livecd-creator and selinux, we can play nice

2008-05-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Daniel J Walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Well I think we need to do a couple of these to figure out the common requirements. I envision mock to be quite different then livecd. I think we need to full the mock chroot to think SELinux is disabled and to do no labeling in the chroot. This

[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: [RFC] Livecd-creator and selinux, we can play nice

2008-05-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Eric Paris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: So I've spent a fair bit of time the last 2 weeks trying to get livecd-creator and an selinux enforcing machine to play nicely together. It doesn't look like much, but from the point of view of the livecd creator I think the following patch is all we need.

Re: Disk Space Issues - cvs-int/build hosts - (includes general note on Nagios Disk notifications)

2008-05-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Nigel Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Problem here, is that there are a LOT of old tarballs in that folder, which leaves me wondering if we should do a spring clean ~1 mo after release. Until we get something like correspondingsource up and running, we don't have a good mechanism for weeding

[Fedora-livecd-list] 3 commits - config/livecd-fedora-9-desktop.ks config/livecd-fedora-9-kde.ks livecd-tools.spec Makefile

2008-05-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Author: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue May 6 12:11:24 2008 -0400 bump to 017 diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index 9d26df5..4ac33b5 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -VERSION = 016 +VERSION = 017 INSTALL = /usr/bin/install -c INSTALL_PROGRAM = ${INSTALL

Re: Change request

2008-04-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: The *real* freeze has started. I'd like to build a different box for the secondary.fedoraproject.org bits. Initial space requirements were off, I'd like to move the bits to a host in PHX. This will require kicking a new host with enough storage.

Re: Koji backups

2008-04-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: We now have all the tapes we need to do koji backups of /mnt/koji. Can I get a +1? Backups are good. +1 Bill ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com

Re: Makefile.common change

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dennis Gilmore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: ? Makefile.common.branch Index: Makefile.common === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/common/Makefile.common,v retrieving revision 1.94 diff -u -r1.94 Makefile.common --- Makefile.common 22 Apr

Re: Change Request: Moving bugzilla sync scripts onto Fedora Boxes

2008-04-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Toshio Kuratomi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: The Bugzilla sync scripts are currently running on a RHEL4 machine on Jeremy's desk. There are a few problems with them that would be hard to fix without RHEL 5. Since it would be helpful to move this out to a Fedora box anyway so anyone can

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] fonts list

2008-04-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Rahul Sundaram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: In the Fedora 9 Xfce ks file, I had to remove the following font packages manually since they ended up being in the live cd even though I had not selected any additional languages. You selected the fonts group, which has fonts for various languages.

[Fedora-livecd-list] config/livecd-fedora-desktop.ks

2008-04-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
config/livecd-fedora-desktop.ks |2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) New commits: commit 1636eabe8fe00f6eeaf48d3671d51961406f6af3 Author: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Apr 17 14:30:08 2008 -0400 gnome-power-manager handles soft-shutdown in GNOME diff --git a/config

Re: Meeting Minutes of Fedora EMEA NPO Meeting

2008-03-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
JoergSimon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: === Foundation Accounting and Membership Registration Software ===  * Ownership: Robert Scheck  * Progress: -  * Meeting Minutes:    * Available software costs money, ranging from 10-100 EURO/month, or one-time fees.    * FOSS Software is old,

Re: Meeting Minutes of Fedora EMEA NPO Meeting

2008-03-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Gerold Kassube ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: By now, we are a association or a company call it whatever you want and fortunately and also unfortunatly we have to cover legal things, law etc. and most of theses things are discussed at our first Board meeting and were topic of the agenda. If you

Re: Mailman list for triage - special requirements

2008-03-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jon Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: John Poelstra and I were just thinking about a mailing list for watching incoming bugs. Unfortunately, I don't know that there's the right combination of checkboxes in Bugzilla to just get mail about new bugs. However, filtering based on mail header

Re: rebuilding from old cvs tags

2008-02-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike Bonnet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: I think immutable tags are the answer here. We already kind of assume tags don't change once they're built, we might as well enforce it. I know force-tag is convenient, but how much harder is it really to bump the revision number instead? In the case

Re: Mailman List Policy for Fedora Hosted

2008-02-19 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jon Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: freemedia is a closed list with private archives, because of the personal information to be found there. fedora-board-list is another one, and I'm sure there's more, dealing with security for example. There needs to be a method of exception to the rule.

Re: kernel posttrans and preun hooks for other packages

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matt Domsch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433121 DKMS would like to have the opportunity to run it's auto-rebuilder/installer after a new kernel RPM has been installed, without having to wait for a system restart to run it. Likewise, when a kernel

Re: kernel posttrans and preun hooks for other packages

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matt Domsch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Use triggers - this functionality already exists without kernel-specific infrastructure. a) LSB suggests triggers are evil. Then triggers must be the right answer. b) triggers don't tell me the version of the package that got installed that

Re: kernel posttrans and preun hooks for other packages

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jason L Tibbitts III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: MD == Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MD [...] there's no ordering guarantee between the two such that we MD know kernel-devel is always installed before kernel. It should be possible to have kernel-devel have Requires(post): kernel

caching in general (was Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] caching repository?)

2008-01-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Douglas McClendon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Tim Wood wrote: Thanks. That will work. InstantMirror does look more maintainable but has the downside (at v0.4) that it looks a little early to use as the basis of real work. Yes- I assumed --cache was so obvious, that you must have wanted

Re: UVESAFB in kernel 2.6.24

2008-01-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Why wouldn't it be a module like (most) other framebuffers? Well.. vesafb is also enabled with 'y' and because uvesafb is it's successor it seems logical to me that it also gets enabled with 'y' (not as a module but build in). Perhaps a good idea for fedora

Re: UVESAFB in kernel 2.6.24

2008-01-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: AFAIK, we don't ship the tools for uvesafb, so it's a little late for it to be a successor. How does it execute them if it's built-in, anyway? uvesafb just got included in the 2.6.24 which isn't even final yet so it's not 'late'.. more early than late.

Re: Restart TG apps for high mem-usage

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Toshio Kuratomi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Here's a short script to test our TG apps run via supervisor for excessive memory usage and restart them if necessary. We could run this via cron in alternate hours on each app server. Does this seem like a good or bad idea to people? It's a

Re: RHEL 5.1

2007-11-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
rob myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: diff --git a/mash/__init__.py b/mash/__init__.py index b02d6c8..6e7a496 100644 --- a/mash/__init__.py +++ b/mash/__init__.py @@ -209,6 +209,18 @@ class Mash: # now deal with noarch for pkg in noarch: for target_arch in

Re: Mirror Manager Backup

2007-11-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
seth vidal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: build: koji, plague, local mirrors for building, cvs, bodhi, pkgdb distribution: mirrormanager, mirrormaster, staging, torrent primary site: fp.o, wiki, docs, start.fp.o meta services all of the above will or do require: vpn, fas[2], puppet,

Fedora Core 6 End of Life

2007-11-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
A reminder to users: Fedora Core 6 will reach its end of life for updates on Friday, December 7, 2007. Fedora 7 will remain supported until one month past the release of Fedora 9 (as things stand, this would be roughly through the end of May, 2008). - The Fedora Board -- fedora-announce-list

rpms/perl-Finance-Quote/devel perl-Finance-Quote.spec,1.5,1.6

2007-10-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
::MakeMaker) %description This module retrieves stock and mutual fund quotes from various exchanges @@ -44,6 +44,9 @@ %{_mandir}/man3/*.3* %changelog +* Wed Sep 26 2007 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] +- add perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) buildreq + * Tue Sep 18 2007 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL

Re: Fusion io solid-state storage

2007-09-28 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Just saw this, figured someone here might be interested. http://www.fusionio.com/ $30/GB. That's gonna hurt. Bill ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-Finance-Quote/devel perl-Finance-Quote.spec,1.4,1.5

2007-09-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Sep 18 2007 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] +- fix source download URL + * Fri Aug 3 2007 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tweak license tag -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Off on Monday

2007-09-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mike McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Just letting you guys know I'll be off on Monday, going to a cubs game and generally doing everything you've seen in: Woo, our infrastructure leader, the sausage king of Chicago! Bill ___

Re: -vanilla builds.

2007-08-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jason L Tibbitts III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: DJ == Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DJ I think we ended up settling on putting them on DJ people.fedoraproject.org. Given the 150MB quota, this probably DJ means... Actually all it means is that you need to ask for more space. Sort

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] default to using a global livecd yum cache, not a private one

2007-08-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 16:07 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: This patch moves the yum cache into /var/cache/livecd so that out of the box, the tool doesn't repeatedly download stuff from the internet. Patch is empty :) But going from the earlier patch you

Re: thinking about the Fedora brand (WARNING: this is for you)

2007-08-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Rahul Sundaram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Frontpage of Fedora already has this: The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content. Isn't the guy who leads the charge waving the flag the one that gets shot first? Bill --

Re: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.* [was Re: Who decides what drivers go on the install disk?]

2007-08-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bill Nottingham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Here you go; sorts them into two piles (networking and block), and expands the symbol list to catch some of the missing modules such as ahci and some of the wireless drivers. ... committed. Bill ___ Fedora

Re: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.* [was Re: Who decides what drivers go on the install disk?]

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Depends on how many copies of the qlogic driver there are ;-) RHEL live CDs? What's that? (Actually, I lied - drivers/block + drivers/scsi is 1.3M compressed.) I mean, I guess I can just do manual twiddling to rule out things that aren't under

Re: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.* [was Re: Who decides what drivers go on the install disk?]

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: If it's done at runtime, you can handle whatever kernel you happen to get, even if it's not one of ours. There are plenty of constraints we have around kernel configuration. Asking for a file to be shipped with the kernel which tells us a little

aic7xxx_old

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Isn't it about time for this to die? Bill ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list

Re: Who decides what drivers go on the install disk?

2007-07-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Chuck Ebbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: The arcmsr driver is in-kernel but you can't install to a system using it for the main disk controller: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=249647 Ditto for the uli526x network driver, network installs are impossible on systems

Re: Removing atomic.h from Fedora kernel headers

2007-06-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
Chuck Ebbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Why do we explicitly remove atomic.h from our kernel header package? IIRC, the reasoning was because the operations weren't actually atomic when used from userspace; ergo, it was a bad idea to provide them. Bill

Re: Upgrade metrics

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Axel Thimm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: The interesting part is to create a graph over time to answer the question whether the 13 month EOL is really paying off. And perhaps on base of that graph one could revise this decision. At the very leats it would be interesting to notice the upgrade

Re: mash + koji write-signed-rpm

2007-06-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
rob myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: why not have mash write a signed rpm out instead of just warning users when a package has cached signatures, but no signed rpm? lightly tested patch attached. That would require the user running mash to authenticate to koji with a fairly high level of

Re: atop?

2007-06-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Axel Thimm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Would it make sense to add these patches to Fedora's kernel? http://www.atcomputing.nl/Tools/atop This could help in the area of extending laptop battery life by detecting unneccessary disk access. The first step is to have some disk I/O to process

Re: atop?

2007-06-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Axel Thimm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: These patches: a) aren't upstream b) change the format of /proc/stat c) change process accounting in an incompatible way So... no. OK, fair enough (I wasn't aware of b) and c)). Any other way then to achive the stated goals? I haven't

Re: Fedora 7 Upgrade

2007-06-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Toshio Kuratomi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Depends... What is the reason for those boxes to be on Fedora instead of RHEL? For the mash/bodhi box, it's because it requires yum-3.2.x and current createrepo. At the moment it's running them recompiled for FC6, and, well, I'd rather not do that

Re: RFR: GIT Package VCS

2007-06-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
Karel Zak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: My wish is git rebase always after upgrade to new upstream code. The current make prep is nightmare... See Linux kernel. That's normal that people maintain their patches outside official tree(s) for pretty long time. The modern VCS is the right tool

Re: RFR: GIT Package VCS

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Right. I really don't think we want to just take our current system, switch out CVS, and end up with all of the same workflows. The change should be more about how do we improve workflows. That means thinking about things like: * How do we make it

Re: Problem with updates updates-testing repo

2007-06-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Stephanos Manos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Apologies for the noise if this is not the right place to report this it seams that the createrepo script didn't run correctly for updates-7 updates-7-testing since it includes the debuginfo packages The problem is visible either with cli yum or

Re: the mechanics of pushing updates

2007-05-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Luke Macken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: By the looks of the fedora-release-tools module, there are two scripts that have been used to sign packages, ftsign and fedorasign, both of which call /usr/local/bin/rpm-4.1-sign, which is a symlink to /usr/lib/rpm/rpmk. ... which doesn't interact well

the mechanics of pushing updates

2007-05-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mmm, plumbing. bodhi is heading for production soon. To push updates, what bodhi currently does is, for any update: - sign the package - copy the package to a 'staging' tree of the entirety of updates - read a static list of packages that should be multilib, act on that - run createrepo - check

Vote for the (probable) name of Fedora 7!

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
The board has sent a list of suggested names for Fedora 7 to our legal department, and they have responded with the names that have passed preliminary legal approval. Please vote for your favorite choice at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/vote.cgi The choices are 'Lee',

Vote for the (probable) name of Fedora 7!

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
The board has sent a list of suggested names for Fedora 7 to our legal department, and they have responded with the names that have passed preliminary legal approval. Please vote for your favorite choice at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/vote.cgi The choices are 'Lee',

Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] using koji as repository?

2007-05-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Sebastian Vahl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Am Sat, 19 May 2007 11:23:42 -0400 schrieb Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 12:22 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: ATM the packages tagged as f7final are getting too slowly into rawhide. Is there a way to set up koji as the used

Re: [PATCH] koji import-comps

2007-05-14 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jeremy Katz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: biarchonly, basearchonly, groupreq and metapkg are all elements of the old comps format supported by rhpl.comps and not the new comps format supported directly by yum. groupreq still exists in current comps. Perhaps that should be 'fixed'? Bill --

Re: cvsl10n CVSROOT

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dimitris Glezos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Our translators have made it clear they want to use a SCM for the translations and said an *additional* web-based tool would be nice. So, let's first create our SCM and we'll see about whether we should use pootle. Use *one* SCM. How to gate currently

Re: Infrastructure Design - Look Feel

2007-02-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Máirín Duffy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: - Is the main Fedora Project wiki up for redesign as well? I think it could use a little tweaking. Well, there has been talk of moving the frontpage to a static site that is actually designed, along with the docs and other more static content. Doesn't

Fedora Core 4 Transferred to Fedora Legacy

2006-08-07 Thread Bill Nottingham
With the release of Fedora Core 6 Test 2, the Fedora Core Steering Committee would like to announce the transfer of Fedora Core 4 to the Fedora Legacy Project. For more information on the Fedora Legacy Project, or if you wish to join the team, please see http://fedoralegacy.org/. --

fedoraproject.org wiki down

2006-08-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
The Fedora Project wiki is currently down. We are working to resolve the issue. Apologies for the inconvenience. Bill -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list

Re: Running rpmlint within mock

2006-07-14 Thread Bill Nottingham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: My python skills are pretty much nil ATM, but I'm willing to learn too... Any and all pieces of advice and/or code gladly accepted Sounds like a good idea to me... I suggested some other things to check on this list a few months back. Bill --

Re: Anaconda: good work!

2006-03-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Garry Williams (gtwilli...@gmail.com) said: One thing that we really probably need to look at for FC6 is revisiting the time remaining algorithm. Yeah, it took about fifteen minutes after all packages were installed to finish doing an update. That was long 1 minute remaining. :-) In

Re: Wild and crazy times for the development tree

2006-03-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Richard Hally (rha...@mindspring.com) said: Bill Nottingham wrote: Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said: I'm not claiming to be representative of the majority of Fedora users, but given there are a lot of Fedora users less fortunate than myself, I believe that discontinuing CD iso's would

Re: Wild and crazy times for the development tree

2006-03-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Alan Cox (a...@redhat.com) said: On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:02:03AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Hi Bill, How or where did you get those number? http://torrent.fedoraproject.org:6969/ So its torrent stats only - thats fairly biased if so Yes, but it's what's immediately

Re: Wild and crazy times for the development tree

2006-03-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said: I'm not claiming to be representative of the majority of Fedora users, but given there are a lot of Fedora users less fortunate than myself, I believe that discontinuing CD iso's would severely impact a huge portion of our userbase. It'd be interesting to

Re: Reorganization of src.rpm: not arch agnostic

2006-03-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
Axel Thimm (axel.th...@atrpms.net) said: On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:07:13PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Axel Thimm (axel.th...@atrpms.net) said: while putting together these src.rpms under one folder was a good thing, it uncovers an issue with conditional and macro-dependent

Re: Fedora Core 5 Status

2006-03-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Philippe Rigault (priga...@oricom.ca) said: Thank you, Jesse, for the explaination. On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:35:06 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 16:24 -0500, Philippe Rigault wrote: Sure, only 2442 RPM packages have been rebuilt out of 2442. Um, no. These were

Re: rawhide report: 20060307 changes

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
Christopher Aillon (cail...@redhat.com) said: Speaking about NM, are there any plans for supporting static IP addresses? Static IPs are supported, but there is no way to configure it with NM. Configure it with system-config-network, and NM will pick up the static IP fine. ... assuming

Fedora Core 4 Update: gnucash-1.8.12-0.fc4

2006-01-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
, this will be pushed final sometime around the new year. - * Tue Dec 20 2005 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.8.12-0.fc4 - update to 1.8.12 - This update can

Fedora Core 4 Update: chkconfig-1.3.22-0.4

2005-11-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
, you may need to run: rm -f /etc/rc*.d/*nscd chkconfig --add nscd to correctly set up nscd (which you can then enable/disable with chkconfig or nscd.) - * Wed Nov 9 2005 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] - fix doSetService call

Fedora Core 4 Update: chkconfig-1.3.23-0.4

2005-11-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
11 2005 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.3.23-0.4 - fix ntsysv (#172996) - This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/4/ 6557f4dae8b955ecb7a05a3b537c417e SRPMS

Fedora Core 4 Update: hwdata-0.158.2-1

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Nottingham
. - * Fri Nov 4 2005 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0.158.2-1 - add migration for mptfusion - mptsas/mptspi/mptfc - This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com

Fedora Core 4 Update: mutt-1.4.2.1-4.FC4

2005-10-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
. - * Thu Oct 27 2005 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:1.4.2.1-4.FC4 - add patch from 1.5 branch to fix SASL logging (#157251, #171528) * Fri Aug 26 2005 Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5:1.4.2.1-3 - add patch from 1.5 branch to fix base64 decoding (#166718

Fedora Core 4 Update: util-linux-2.12p-9.9

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. - From: Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fedora-announce-list@redhat.com

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