Re: KDE Terminal

2009-01-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 January 2009 16:53, Thomas Iverson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 08 January 2009 15:28:44 John Aldrich wrote: > >> On Thursday 08 January 2009, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > >> > Is there a terminal in KDE 4 that behaves like the main conso

Re: MP3 playback in XMMS

2009-01-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 08 January 2009 01:17, Todd Zullinger wrote: > And why in the world is anyone still using xmms, with it's hideous > gtk1 widget set and poor utf-8 support? It's simple to use, with easy user interface --- play, stop, pause, rew, ff, shuffle, repeat (and nothing else) on one window. I

Re: X locks up after a random time

2009-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 03 January 2009 11:25, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 03 January 2009 01:36:01 Rex Dieter wrote: > > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Ok, this is a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo U9200, with Intel graphics, F10 > > > 64bit, updated last week. KDE desktop, compi

Re: X locks up after a random time

2009-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 03 January 2009 02:07, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Ok, this is a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo U9200, with Intel graphics, F10 > > 64bit, > > updated last week. KDE desktop, compiz and all, but I believe

Re: X locks up after a random time

2009-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 03 January 2009 02:36, Rex Dieter wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Ok, this is a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo U9200, with Intel graphics, F10 > > 64bit, updated last week. KDE desktop, compiz and all, but I believe it > > is not related. > > In the meantime,

X locks up after a random time

2009-01-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Ok, this is a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo U9200, with Intel graphics, F10 64bit, updated last week. KDE desktop, compiz and all, but I believe it is not related. The symptom: system boots up regularly, I do regular work, and after a random amount of time, X freezes. If compiz is on, all I can do i

Test, please ignore...

2008-12-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
I had some problems with my subscription, just checking that now everything is ok. Please ignore this message. Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Commu

Re: F10 flat out rocks...

2008-11-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 29 November 2008 19:47, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > The machine was just built. It is new, It is a dual > > boot with Mr. Gates OS as well. It has not frozen like > > Fedora has. I have run Slax on it for two days straight and > > no freezes. I have blacklisted r8169 driver on it an

Re: set up NAT (network address translation) on local server

2008-11-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 20 November 2008 13:52, Christopher K. Johnson wrote: > Does /etc/sysconfig/iptables actually contain the lines > > *nat > > :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1:233] > :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] > :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] > > -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 10.154.19.210 > COM

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-19 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 17 November 2008 18:49, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I also wonder if I should have a ifcfg-eth1 file in > > > > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ > > Yes, definitely. The "system-config-network" gui should create it for you. > Open it, and see if eth1

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Antonio and others, I'm writing the stuff below off the top of my head --- please feel free to correct me if necessarry, I may have slipped here or there... ;-) On Sunday 16 November 2008 20:52, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I changed DHCPDARG=eth0 as was suggested, but not working. I missed this

Re: Make a DHCP server using Fedora - Help

2008-11-15 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 15 November 2008 01:09, Antonio Olivares wrote: > I am trying once again, something that I have not succeeded in doing. I > have tried before: > > http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&m=112527669314098&w=4 Haven't read the whole thread, sorry, just the beggining. But I hope I didn't miss

Re: F10/KDE4.1.2: What is the "Show Desktop" widget ?

2008-11-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 21:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:04 -0500, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I just spent some time running the F10/KDE Live CD. I noticed that > > there is a "Show Desktop" widget in the widget list. > > > I couldn't get it to work. What is it supp

Re: Wish To Know The Basics of Installing/Downloading a Fedora Operating System

2008-10-30 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:08, Ubique Enterprises wrote: > a) Download a Fedora Operating System on a folder in the hard disk. And > transfer it out of this computer to another stand alone machine which > currently has only a 256 MB RAM with the help of a pen drive/pen drive > having a 1 gb ca

Re: When will KDE4 get a desktop like in KDE3.x ?

2008-10-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 21:19, BRUCE STANLEY wrote: > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It could be argued that files and icons do not belong on > > the desktop, but > > rather in home directory. It could also be argued tha

Re: When will KDE4 get a desktop like in KDE3.x ?

2008-10-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 20 October 2008 23:50, Linuxguy123 wrote: > Why can't we have files and icons on the desktop, ala KDE3.x ? You can. Use folder-view widget, and point it to the Desktop folder under your home directory. However... It could be argued that files and icons do not belong on the desktop, bu

Re: Two problems in f9 - pulseaudio and kde4 - need suggestions

2008-10-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 13 October 2008 00:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marko Vojinovic panet.co.yu> writes: > > But it is being done very fast, and KDE 4.2 (iirc, to come with > > F10) will be much more feature-rich then the present version 4.1. > > F10 will ship with 4.1.2 or 4.1.3, no

Re: wild and crazy selinux dependencies?

2008-10-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 11 October 2008 14:19, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:02:52 + > Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In general, you want a system with active selinux as much as a system > > with file permissions. Security. > > In general, I want

Re: Two problems in f9 - pulseaudio and kde4 - need suggestions

2008-10-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 12 October 2008 06:01, William W. Austin wrote: > The first is a set of problems with pulseaudio. On my favorite > workstation, a 64-bit machine with a dual-core cpu, I have both a SB > Audigy 2 (350) and sound on the mb 8-channel real-tek. [snip] > If anyone has a working pulseaudio con

Re: wild and crazy selinux dependencies?

2008-10-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:58, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > > I was just trying to remove as many selinux related packages as possible > > (a fedora 9 system) to avoid having to download their updates when I have > > selinux turned off anyway. [snip] > > Several of the rpms I t

Re: 3D effects query

2008-10-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 08 October 2008 17:55, Dan Track wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Dan Track <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've installed an nvidia quaddro fx570 card and I have it up and > > running in twinview. I've enabled 3d effects how can I tell if the 3d > > is being done by the graphic

Re: Reboot every 1 hour, 19 seconds

2008-10-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 07 October 2008 12:22, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: > On October 2, 10:00 we had a power outage (I turned my PC on at 17:00). > Since then, my Fedora9 is rebooting approx every hour and 19 seconds. You don't happen to have a hard disk failing the smart test, do you? I had those exac

Re: Video card

2008-10-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 06 October 2008 21:04, Dan wrote: > Could you give me some names of Video cards that are most compatible > with Fedora 9 and that have drivers for Fedora 9?? I've had experience with all three vendors, nVidia, ATI and Intel, with various versions of Fedora. But I have no other resource

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-05 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 23:05, Craig White wrote: > Mini-applications that were formally known as desk accessories like > calculators and stuff were relegated to applications and thus required > more effort to launch. > > KDE and it's plasmoids are returning these 'widgets' to a functional > sp

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > people including myself. On the other hand, some people think its > > great. > > > > I c

Re: How is KDE4 supposed to be used ?

2008-10-04 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 04 October 2008 19:45, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There is and has been a lot of grumbling about KDE4 from a number of > > > people including m

Re: CentOS 3rd party repositories?

2008-10-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 02 October 2008 13:24, Axel Thimm wrote: > > > > ATrpms has way too obsolete installation instructions (some others too > > --- Dries comes to mind) to be seriously considered as a reliable > > repository. For example, Livna has a .rpm file for each Fedora distro > > that I just have t

Re: [OT] CentOS 3rd party repositories?

2008-10-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 02 October 2008 11:53, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > 1) kmod-nvidia and kmod-fglrx --- searching through the web, all I see > > about CentOS is installing/compiling drivers straight from nVidia and > > ATI. Are there maintained yumable packages that get autoupdated along > > with CentOS ke

Re: F8: no fullscreen video with ATI fglrx driver

2008-10-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 02 October 2008 19:00, wwp wrote: > since I use the fglrx driver in my Fedora 8 (Dell D810, X600 ATI board, > was using the radeon driver before), I can't get mplayer or xkype to > display a video in fullscreen. Pressing F in mplayer just does paint > the original size video in a black

[OT] CentOS 3rd party repositories?

2008-10-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Forgive me for querrying the Fedora list for this, but I really don't want to subscribe to a Yet Another Mailing List just to have this one single basic question answered. It is quite unlikely that I will be having any more questions about CentOS in the future, so... Ok, to the problem --- I h

Re: [OT] Monitor recommendations with a wide hsync range

2008-09-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:58, Bill Crawford wrote: > On Tuesday 23 September 2008 17:09:46 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Is there any computer monitor out in the market today that can sync down > > to 15 KHz? > > Might be worth just buying a cheap LCD television (

Re: [OT] Monitor recommendations with a wide hsync range

2008-09-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 03:11, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 23 September 2008, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >Is there any other way to make a square fit to a circle? Here RGB signal > > is a requirement --- s-video, composite and similar stuff are out of the > > p

[OT] Monitor recommendations with a wide hsync range

2008-09-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
This is OT, but I guess there are some among you folks who could provide some info on this, please... :-) My old monitor just died beyond repair, and now I am considering bying a new one (widescreen tft something, typically). However, I would also like to connect some video equipment to that m

Re: video equipment still forcing my laptop to a lower res, argh

2008-09-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 13:02, Ed Greshko wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > Quoting Ed Greshko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >>> is there any way to de-activate that checking within X? from what > >>> you've > >>> written, i'm assuming that the X server sees what's ha

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 22:29, g wrote: > you did your research well. i commend you. :-) It isn't like I was doing any research. I am aware of such details simply because I used to be a grid team member some time ago, so have some inside information... ;-) > > means that SL will in time st

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 10:29, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 19:05 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Can't afford to buy a certificate? Scientific Linux webadmins? Those > > who are backed up by institutions like Cern and Fermilab (which spend > > billion

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 13:36, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:03 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > I must say I was fairly unimpressed with the error I got > > when browsing to the suggested URL, > > . > > I know there was some sort of explanation given

Re: Fedora home server using core 9

2008-09-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 September 2008 07:12, g wrote: > Frode Petersen wrote: > > Just curious, as I'm about to install one of them alongside F9: Is there > > any reason to choose one over the other? My impression is that they are > > pretty much equivalent choices, but that might be a superficial > > observ

Re: Laptop Recommendations

2008-08-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 26 August 2008 15:26, Dave Cross wrote: > I'm about to buy a new laptop. And I'd like to buy one that works well > with Fedora 9. [snip] > I'm looking for a light laptop with something like a 12" screen, a 2 Ghz > or more processor, 2 Gb of RAM, 300 Gb hard disk, wireless and > bluetooth

Re: Cairo-like dock for KDE? [SOLVED]

2008-08-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 23 August 2008 22:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 21:54 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > [...] > > > Now, I believe I have already specified, but for the record, this is KDE > > 4.0, not 4.1 from updates-testing. > > Your origina

Re: [OT] Machine won't boot [SOLVED]

2008-08-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 23 August 2008 07:19, Tim wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 11:14 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > just for the record --- the problem turned out to be a rather rare > > situation of both hard drive *and* dvd drive failing simoultaneously > > Two things dying at t

Re: Cairo-like dock for KDE? [SOLVED]

2008-08-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 22 August 2008 14:21, Colin J Thomson wrote: > On Friday 22 August 2008 14:58:29 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 09:36 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > But the problem I am now facing is shutting down the panel --- there > > &g

Re: [OT] Machine won't boot [SOLVED]

2008-08-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 18 August 2008 12:47, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > This is a rather old Celeron machine, 433 MHz with 320 MB ram. It was > working properly up to a couple of days ago, when the first hd started > dying out (which is understandable, given its age and the conditions it's > in)

Re: Cairo-like dock for KDE? [SOLVED]

2008-08-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 21 August 2008 00:53, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > How did you add K Menu to Cairo dock? Well, I didn't. I added a standalone widget for that on the desktop, for the time being. But the problem I am now facing is shutting down the panel --- there is no obvious way of doing it. I

Re: [OT] Machine won't boot

2008-08-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 15:14, Ed Greshko wrote: > What motherboard are you talking about...and what time frame are you > certain was the time when it was manufactured with faulty capacitors? What I know is not precisely for one specific type of motherboard. It's just that during the Pentium

Re: [OT] Machine won't boot

2008-08-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 18 August 2008 14:07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What could fail and induce such behavior? > > Another thing to do is check the motherboard carefully for burnt parts > or leaky capacitors. Yeah, I know of the l

Re: Cairo-like dock for KDE? [SOLVED]

2008-08-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 18 August 2008 19:42, Phil Meyer wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Ok, you know, that thing from Mac OS X, that zooms the icons > > parabolically when you hover the pointer over them... > > Cairo is available in Fedora: > > cairo-dock > cairo-dock-devel

Re: [OT] Machine won't boot

2008-08-20 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 18 August 2008 13:24, Alan Cox wrote: > > What could fail and induce such behavior? I have never seen anything > > similar before. A computer usually does boot completely or does not boot > > at all. I've never seen it boot halfway and then lock up. > > Age, component failure , corrosion,

Cairo-like dock for KDE?

2008-08-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Ok, you know, that thing from Mac OS X, that zooms the icons parabolically when you hover the pointer over them... Trying to find some equivalent eyecandy for KDE 4.0 or 4.1 or whatever. I already have Compiz-fusion pretty customized, but all that is not enough, I want even more eye-candy... M

[OT] Machine won't boot

2008-08-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
This is a rather old Celeron machine, 433 MHz with 320 MB ram. It was working properly up to a couple of days ago, when the first hd started dying out (which is understandable, given its age and the conditions it's in). But then at some point the computer stopped booting completely --- bios sta

Re: network vs NetworkManger services ?? [SOLVED] kinda

2008-08-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Ok, can I give it a try to help clear things up? Not that I am an expert on the subject, but hopefully... :-) Somebody please correct me if I get something wrong here. When we speak of "network", there are several layers at work here. First, there is hardware. Cables, network cards at their en

Re: Intel 965GM chipset with compiz

2008-08-10 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 09 August 2008 05:12, John Priddy wrote: > Is anyone out there using this chipset on FC9 with acceptable video > performance? Depending on what "acceptable" means. Works for me. > My performance issues are especially noticeable when > 'scrolling' (for lack of a better word). It is a

Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU (was: Re: that old GNU/Linux argument)

2008-07-30 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 17:28, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 28, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the following paragraphs of that post, I used it to draw a silent > > parallel to the whole Linux vs GNU/Linux discussion. > > FWIW, classical/i

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 19:06, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Hey, how about me starting a quest here? :-) > > > > When you say "information" above, you actually > > mean "classical information", > > as opposed to quantum information, which does not possess > > the property of > > copying (this famous

Re: My own private GNU / Linux thread

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 09:31, Andrew Kelly wrote: > Yes, it's mine, but I'm happy to share. Say, are you sharing it under the viral-GPL or some more-free licence? ;-) > I've been in very close contact with a scandinavian physicist who has > proof that the number of strange attractors these thread

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 27 July 2008 23:56, Antonio Olivares wrote: > +1 :) > > Marko, > I have to say that I totally agree with you. With respect to naming of > things, I have learned that many times, the person(s) that do the work, > someone else gets the credit. It is an unfortunate fact of life. Thanks fo

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 16:56, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > And it's not GNU utilities. It's an operating system. If it was just > "the GNU utilities", you might be right. GNU is *not* an operating system. An operating system must have a kernel as its part. GNU does not, so it is not an operating sy

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 01:21, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 27, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Memtest runs under the bios operating system. > > Nope. It does rely on probing and some BIOS configuration tables to > find out what it's running

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 July 2008 04:06, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > It's a huge mistake to create analogies between information and property. > > If the cow were software, you and I could both milk it. It would never > run out. That's the way information works: you copy it and the ori

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-27 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 27 July 2008 14:54, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > They just want you to push on their agenda. What do you get out of it? > > Err... I happen to work for the goals I myself believe in. That's > why I co-founded FSFLA, a completely autonomous organization. It just > so happens to pursue th

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-27 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 27 July 2008 03:40, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 26, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But the system without a kernel has *precisely zero* usability. > > Yet you provided and cited the counter-example yourself: the boot > loader required

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 25 July 2008 07:56, Gordon Messmer wrote: > I think that some knowledge of history would probably change your > perspective, and is certainly relevant to the conversation. Probably, but it seems that the argument I am trying to communicate is based on discussing the *purpose* of Linux a

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy

2008-07-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 25 July 2008 22:07, John Cornelius wrote: > I fail to see the value of this line of discussion in this forum even > though the points are provocative to say the least. [snip] > Note that my opening thought was that I fail to see the _value_ of this > discussion in this forum not that the

Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy (was: Re: that old GNU/Linux argument)

2008-07-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
:-) I'll try to be just a little bit shorter. Though I may not succeed. ;-) On Friday 25 July 2008 20:18, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the kernel "does the essential work" (actually, it communicates > &g

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 26 July 2008 01:26, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Persons A and B are running a marathon on the Olympic games. > > You're quite creative at presenting analogies that sound convincing to > support

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 24 July 2008 18:03, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Reading the (last few days of the) thread, I saw many aspects and > > different opinions on the subject of the name Linux vs GNU/Linux being > > raised. But all that aside, as a half-ignorant na

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 24 July 2008 20:11, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jul 24, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Under the hood there is the Linux engine, > > > > But tell me, what is in principle The Single Most Important element > > of the car? There

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-24 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Hi everyone, :-) Please forgive me for jumping into the thread, I've been reading it only for the last couple of days, although I can see that the discussion is going on for some time now. On Wednesday 23 July 2008 06:47, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > It makes little sense to deny the important of

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