'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread William Case
Hi; My problem is not yet with tvtime but my question trail starts there. tvtime has been upgraded to use alsa for sound rather than OSS. To do that I need to re-set to something like mixer="DEVICE[:CH]" e.g hw:0/CD; where DEVICE = hw:0 and [:CH] = /CD. ls /dev/mixer no longer exists. Where

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:57 -0400, William wrote: > I have external receptacles on my motherboard at the back of my computer > box -- one light green for incoming sound, and one light red (pink) for > a microphone. Double checked visually and in my motherboard manual. > > *However* my tv tune

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:18:54 -0400, William wrote: > >> ]$ amixer controls and amixer -c 0 controls > > No need to keep specifying -c 0 anywhere as long as there is only > a single hardware device numbered by ALSA on your machine. > If you have PA running, you do. Othe

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread William Case
Thanks Michael; On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 14:25 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:57 -0400, William wrote: > Above is about your onboard audio chipset, not about the tv card. > Analog/digital here refers to audio, not cable tv. > I still think you cannot expect any tv sound w

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:51:42 -0400, William wrote: > I am sure you must be getting tired of this issue, but ... > I have the latest kernel source code + git here and could use some > suggestions on where to start. I have just begun to look at kernel code > so I am sure my way will be tortuous, ho

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:57 -0400, William wrote: I have external receptacles on my motherboard at the back of my computer box -- one light green for incoming sound, and one light red (pink) for a microphone. Double checked visually and in my motherboard manual. *H

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:57 -0400, William wrote: > >> I have external receptacles on my motherboard at the back of my computer >> box -- one light green for incoming sound, and one light red (pink) for >> a microphone. Double checked visually and in my motherboard manu

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:57 -0400, William wrote: I have external receptacles on my motherboard at the back of my computer box -- one light green for incoming sound, and one light red (pink) for a microphone. Double checked visually and in m

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William Case wrote: > Hi; > > My problem is not yet with tvtime but my question trail starts there. > > tvtime has been upgraded to use alsa for sound rather than OSS. To do > that I need to re-set > to something like mixer="DEVICE[:CH]" e.g hw:0/CD; where DEVICE = hw:0 > and [:CH] = /CD. > >

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:17:34 -0400, William wrote: > Hi; > > My problem is not yet with tvtime but my question trail starts there. > > tvtime has been upgraded to use alsa for sound rather than OSS. To do > that I need to re-set > to something like mixer="DEVICE[:CH]" e.g hw:0/CD; where DEVIC

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread William Case
Thanks for responding Michael; I am trying to double check things before getting back to the bug. I am trying to secure myself from stupidity or at least ignorance. My basic problem is that I have tried and used so much advice that I wanted to start over from ground 0, as it were, but you have a

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread William Case
Thanks Mikkel; On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 13:52 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > My problem is not yet with tvtime but my question trail starts there. > > > > tvtime has been upgraded to use alsa for sound rather than OSS. To do > > that I need to re-set > >

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William Case wrote: > > The question is more complex than that. TVTime now has two mixer > options: OSS and Alsa. The OSS channel names correspond to a list > supplied by tvtime.xml and to the list in alsamixer. For Alsa I have > two choices of protocol or formulations to define the mixer and c

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-24 Thread William Case
Hi Mikkel; There is probably no need to reply to this post -- unless you see something obviously wrong. I am just posting to get the results on the record -- so to speak. On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 20:10 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > > > > The question is more complex tha

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:20:36 -0400, William wrote: > > sudo alsa-info --no-upload --with-amixer --with-devices So, your onboard audio chipset is ALSA device '0', and the TV card does not appear as a second audio device '1'. That can be helpful, because lots of other tv/radio cards appears as a

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:49:06 -0400, William wrote: > > amixer info - provides information about the default card. > ]$ amixer info > Card default 'pulse'/'PulseAudio' > Mixer name : 'PulseAudio' > Components : '' > Controls : 4 > Simple ctrls : 2 This is with PulseAudio running, h

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William Case wrote: > Hi Mikkel; > > There is probably no need to reply to this post -- unless you see > something obviously wrong. I am just posting to get the results on the > record -- so to speak. > OK - I have F11 in a virtual machine now, so I can play with the differences while still havi

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread William Case
Hi Mikkel; Still no sound. On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 13:30 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > > Hi Mikkel; > > > > There is probably no need to reply to this post -- unless you see > > something obviously wrong. I am just posting to get the results on the > > record -- so to

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread William Case
Hi Michael; I have removed PulseAudio and re-installed the firmware for cx23885. On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 11:52 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:49:06 -0400, William wrote: dmesg now seems content. ]$ dmesg cx23885 driver version 0.0.1 loaded cx23885 :02:00.0: PCI INT A

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:18:54 -0400, William wrote: > To get a clean start by first getting tvtime working with ALSA alone, I > removed PulseAudio, rebooted and ran: 1) No need to reboot. You could have killed the pulseaudio daemon. 2) Since tvtime doesn't do any audio playback, it doesn't have m

Re: 'Splain please re: mixer, alsa, pulseaudio and tvtime??

2009-07-26 Thread William Case
Hi Michael; On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 08:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:18:54 -0400, William wrote: > > > To get a clean start by first getting tvtime working with ALSA alone, I > > removed PulseAudio, rebooted and ran: > > 1) No need to reboot. You could have killed the