Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-23 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 05/16/2009 04:14 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote: Not that it matters, but the Alpha chip was one impressive processor. That thing could clock off as many as 6 instructions per clock tick because of intelligent pipelining. Note that many of the Intel compiler people are former Digital compiler

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-18 Thread Gordon Messmer
g wrote: intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house years ago along with many other oem suppliers because of their fear of not being included in ms specs. in off quote of b.g., 'exclusively ms or be left out'. Balderdash! Intel appears to be working quite hard to

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-18 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 21:07 -0700, john wendel wrote: Intel finally realized that pipeline flushing was the main thing the processor was doing. The new (I7) architecture has fixed this problem, with very impressive results. I think you're confusing this with the original Core architecture

Re: Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-18 Thread Leslie
g wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope that Intel drivers are becoming better. intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house years ago

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-17 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Petrus de Calguarium kwhisk...@gmail.com wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora I cannot say that Intel sucks on Fedora, but some problems are apparent (like, kms won't work on i915, like the display freezing when trying to

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-17 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora I cannot say that Intel sucks on Fedora, but some problems are apparent (like, kms won't work on i915, like the display freezing when trying to play videos, etc, but this sounds like a new

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-17 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Any Relevance? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Phoronix/~3/0t49mIt2Oy0/vr.php I really couldn't say, as I have no understanding of the workings of these things, but, now that you point it out, it seems quite plausible that these symptoms are caused by the

If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/ If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope that Intel drivers are becoming better. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread g
Valent Turkovic wrote: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope that Intel drivers are becoming better. intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house years ago along with many

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, May 16th 2009 at 15:00 -, quoth g: =Valent Turkovic wrote: = = If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it = expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope = that Intel drivers are becoming better. = =intel sucks on anything but ms, because

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Valent Turkovic wrote: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora I cannot say that Intel sucks on Fedora, but some problems are apparent (like, kms won't work on i915, like the display freezing when trying to play videos, etc, but this sounds like a new 'paradigm' for the display driver, so

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread john wendel
Steven W. Orr wrote: On Saturday, May 16th 2009 at 15:00 -, quoth g: =Valent Turkovic wrote: = = If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this article, it = expains all complexities of Intel drivers and for me it shows hope = that Intel drivers are becoming better. = =intel sucks

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net | The Intel line is so massively pipelined that it's almost impossible to | write an optimizer that doesn't have to flush its entire cache every few | instructions. Don't confuse companies with technologies. What you don't like is the Pentium 4 design

Re: If you wondered why Intel sucks on Fedora read this

2009-05-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: g gel...@bellsouth.net | intel sucks on anything but ms, because intel joined the ms whore house | years ago along with many other oem suppliers because of their fear of | not being included in ms specs. I actually subscribe to your conspiracy theory. Having said that, there are levels