Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: > What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm > hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again. But printing > and the inability to

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Steve Searle
Around 03:24pm on Monday, January 19, 2009 (UK time), Michael Comperchio scrawled: > What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm > hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again. But printing

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 19 January 2009 15:35:19 Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: > > What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > > Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm > > hoping to never have to boot to

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:35:19 -0600 Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: > > What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > > Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. > > I'm hoping to never have to boot

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Comperchio
Steve Searle wrote: Around 03:24pm on Monday, January 19, 2009 (UK time), Michael Comperchio scrawled: What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side a

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon Jan 19, 2009 09:35AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: > > What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > > Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm > > hoping to never have to boot to the

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:00pm on Monday, January 19, 2009 (UK time), Michael Comperchio scrawled: > Inexpensive as in I'm not working steadily right now and there doesn't > seem to be a lot of hiring going on any where. I'm talking about going > to Staples or Circuit City or the like and not spending much mor

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Trey Sizemore wrote: > On Mon Jan 19, 2009 09:35AM, Mike Chambers wrote: >> HP printers seem to be very well supported. Also I think Brothers >> printers are as well. I don't know about Lexmark, but they may be >> supported good now, or at least better than before. >> > > I'll second the HP and

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:00:40 -0500 Michael Comperchio wrote: > Steve Searle wrote: > > Around 03:24pm on Monday, January 19, 2009 (UK time), Michael > > Comperchio scrawled: > > > > > >> What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > >> Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10,

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Comperchio
Mike Chambers wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again. But printing an

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 19 January 2009 17:15:54 Michael Comperchio wrote: > Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: > >> What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > >> Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm > >

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
Michael Comperchio wrote: Inexpensive as in I'm not working steadily right now and there doesn't seem to be a lot of hiring going on any where. I'm talking about going to Staples or Circuit City or the like and not spending much more that a $100... I just want to print up some business cards a

Re: Printers

2009-01-19 Thread Stuart
Michael Comperchio wrote: [...] I just checked out Staples and they have an HP Photosmart C4580 Inket All-in-One that ends up being $104 out the door and is supported (according to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web) by HPLIP. Next questions will be how to make it work when I can't figure it

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Comperchio wrote: > What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with > Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm > hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again. But printing > and the inability to sync up with my Palm Lifedrive are th

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Noel James Bridge
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 11:19 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I'd recommend HP, because the CUPS drivers (HPLIP) are Free Software, > written by HP themselves and included in Fedora (so they work out of the > box). > ... > One drawback though is that HP is not the cheapest option out there > (especial

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 10:19:20 Kevin Kofler wrote: > One drawback though is that HP is not the cheapest option out there > (especially if you count the ink/toner prices - for example, HP inkjets > have the print heads on the cartridge, which means they're less susceptible > to defects, but w

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:43 +, Noel James Bridge wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 11:19 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > I'd recommend HP, because the CUPS drivers (HPLIP) are Free Software, > > written by HP themselves and included in Fedora (so they work out of the > > box). > > > ... > > One

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Craig White wrote: >On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:43 +, Noel James Bridge wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 11:19 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> > I'd recommend HP, because the CUPS drivers (HPLIP) are Free Software, >> > written by HP themselves and included in Fedora (so

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 12:41 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > It's worth bearing in mind, too, that the 6 cartridge models are > cheaper to run that the 2-3 cartridge ones, purely because you only > replace a colour as it runs out, rather than a multi-colour cartridge. That depends on the costs. I had

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 09:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > I put in a request for amanda to use the colors too, and was told > "patches welcome" which is as it should be, but I have NDI how to tell > a printer to print this line in black, that one in magenta, and the > next one in cyan and the border

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Steve
Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 09:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I put in a request for amanda to use the colors too, and was told > > "patches welcome" which is as it should be, but I have NDI how to tell > > a printer to print this line in black, that one in magenta, and the > > ne

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: >> What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with >> Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm >> hoping to never have to boot to the

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 18:37:51 Richard Shaw wrote: > > It supports both 15ml cartridges (cheap but not a lot of ink, $16 on > hp.com) or XL cartridges. Just bought an XL color and B&W combo from > Costco for ~$60 but it should last a while. > Note for UK readers - currently cartridge prices

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 January 2009, Tim wrote: >On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 09:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I put in a request for amanda to use the colors too, and was told >> "patches welcome" which is as it should be, but I have NDI how to tell >> a printer to print this line in black, that one in magen

Re: Printers

2009-01-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 14:24 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Daily would use too much ink using that image though. Yes, I don't think daily would be a great idea. Use a smaller image... If it's like most inkjets, they'll waste a lot of ink just preparing to print. So you don't need to do a big prin

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Michael Comperchio
Mike Chambers wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:24 -0500, Michael Comperchio wrote: What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm hoping to never have to boot to the windoze side again. But printing an

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:23:26 -0500 Michael Comperchio wrote: > I almost got an HP 1520, that printer > would have been cheaper than the ink cartridges it took simply > replace the printer when it was out of ink! The manufacturers have already got that covered. The cartridges that come wi

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 22 January 2009 20:23:26 Michael Comperchio wrote: > Now, can anyone recommend a PDA that will sync up painlessly? I have had > zero success with my lifedrive. Either Kontact or Evolution, at this > point I don't care. That's the only thing I reboot to windows for at > this point. I'd

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Michael Comperchio
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2009 20:23:26 Michael Comperchio wrote: Now, can anyone recommend a PDA that will sync up painlessly? I have had zero success with my lifedrive. Either Kontact or Evolution, at this point I don't care. That's the only thing I reboot to windows for at

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:26:10 -0600 Frank Cox wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:23:26 -0500 > Michael Comperchio wrote: > > > I almost got an HP 1520, that printer > > would have been cheaper than the ink cartridges it took simply > > replace the printer when it was out of ink! > > The man

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 20:57 +, Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:26:10 -0600 > Frank Cox wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:23:26 -0500 > > Michael Comperchio wrote: > > > > > I almost got an HP 1520, that printer > > > would have been cheaper than the ink cartridges it took si

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:26:10PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:23:26 -0500 > Michael Comperchio wrote: > > > I almost got an HP 1520, that printer > > would have been cheaper than the ink cartridges it took simply > > replace the printer when it was out of ink! > > Th

Re: Printers

2009-01-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:00:18 -0500 fred smith wrote: > And (at least some) laser printers, too. While I"m very pleased with > my Brother HL2070N, the original toner cartridge is good for 1500 > sheets while a "for money" cartridge claims 2500. I got about 1800 > from the original and haven't used

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/22/2009 03:57 PM, Alan Cox wrote: In the USA maybe, it varies by country according to what the law allows them to get away with. New printers are actually often a better buy because its the best way to get a new cartridge and components to [ab]use with an inkrefill kit a few times until it

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Alan Cox
> My personal experience with Canon, HP, and Epson is that using > non-proprietary ink can actually ruin the printer. Both my Canon and > Epson had ink cartriges separate from the heads. After using cheap ink, > the ink ended up dripping into the rollers and heads eventually causing But who ca

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/21/2009 04:19 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Michael Comperchio wrote: >> What would be the best choice in inexpensive printers for use with >> Fedora? I'm relatively new to F10, though I've used Linux before. I'm >> hoping to never have to boot to th

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Tom Horsley
> New printers are actually often a better buy... I remember buying a laser printer at Office Depot and the printer was something like $100 and their web site listed replacement toner cartridges at $116 :-). I'm assuming they don't sell many replacement cartridges... -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Steve Searle
Around 03:42pm on Sunday, January 25, 2009 (UK time), Tom Horsley scrawled: > > New printers are actually often a better buy... > > I remember buying a laser printer at Office Depot and the > printer was something like $100 and their web site listed > replacement toner cartridges at $116 :-). I'm

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/25/2009 10:42 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: New printers are actually often a better buy... I remember buying a laser printer at Office Depot and the printer was something like $100 and their web site listed replacement toner cartridges at $116 :-). I'm assuming they don't sell many replace

RE: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread bruce
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Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 25 January 2009 15:17:51 Alan Cox wrote: > But who cares. You refill the cartridge a few times and then you buy a > new printer not a new cartridge. They cost the same near enough so who > cares if the cheap ink trashes the previous one... I care. It's just plain wrong to waste like thi

Re: Printers

2009-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 15:17:51 Alan Cox wrote: > >> But who cares. You refill the cartridge a few times and then you buy a >> new printer not a new cartridge. They cost the same near enough so who >> cares if the cheap ink trashes the previous one... >> > > I care.

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 25 January 2009 23:35:08 Ed Greshko wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 25 January 2009 15:17:51 Alan Cox wrote: > >> But who cares. You refill the cartridge a few times and then you buy a > >> new printer not a new cartridge. They cost the same near enough so who > >> cares if the

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Claude Jones
On Sunday 25 January 2009 10:17:51 Alan Cox wrote: > If you are doing any volume a decent colour laser is a huge cost saving. > Nowdays I have a laser - mostly because I can print to vinyl, print to > transfers without hassle and don't have the 'delights' of inkjet ink > being waterbased so impossi

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
O> is photo printing. I get adequate results for everyday use using some special > paper, but, it's not the same as a Canon Photo Printer, which can be > stunning. I still have a photo printer for that one reason, but rarely use it. > But, you said something - I've never heard of printing on

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Alan Cox wrote: > O> is photo printing. I get adequate results for everyday use using some > special >> paper, but, it's not the same as a Canon Photo Printer, which can be >> stunning. > > I still have a photo printer for that one reason, but rarely use it. > >> But, you said something - I'v

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
> That sounds like fun. A bit difficult if you don't have the vinyl > cutting machine, but you run into the same problems with an ink jet. I've not found any inkjet printable vinyl although I'm sure it exists somewhere. > Now if only they made printable CD/DVDs that would work in a laser > printe

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Alan Cox wrote: laser print onto vinyl (with backing sheet) including alignment marks Feed resulting sheet into vinyl cutting machine Tell machine to align to marks Cut Peel Apply Custom printed decals of any sha

Re: Printers

2009-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
> If you only need small runs, many signwriters offer custom vinyl decal > services. A friend's mother worked at one about 16 years ago in a > small town in Wales so they should be fairly widespread now :) Thats basically what I do - but for model making. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedo

KPilot (was Re: Printers)

2009-01-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 22 January 2009 20:39:58 Michael Comperchio wrote: > > Anne, I know what happens when we assume, but can I assume from your > email address you might have a better idea that the rest of us what's > coming? > I hear some things earlier, perhaps, and I know quite a lot of people that I

Re: KPilot (was Re: Printers)

2009-01-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 20:54 +, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2009 20:39:58 Michael Comperchio wrote: > > > > Anne, I know what happens when we assume, but can I assume from your > > email address you might have a better idea that the rest of us what's > > coming? > > > I hear som

Re: printers go away after each reboot

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Waugh
After creating a new queue, does it appear in /etc/cups/printers.conf? Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproj

Re: printers go away after each reboot

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:41 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: > I'm running Fedora9 in a VM (on a mac via vmware fusion) > Each time I boot I have no printers, I can set one up and print to it fine > both in cups or via the KDE printer dialog however the next time I boot they > are gone. That sounds l

Re: printers go away after each reboot

2008-11-12 Thread Kevin Kempter
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 02:35:58 am Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:41 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > I'm running Fedora9 in a VM (on a mac via vmware fusion) > > Each time I boot I have no printers, I can set one up and print to it > > fine both in cups or via the KDE printer di

SOLVED - Re: printers go away after each reboot

2008-11-12 Thread Kevin Kempter
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 08:37:46 am Tim Waugh wrote: > After creating a new queue, does it appear in /etc/cups/printers.conf? > > Tim. > */ I walked through the cups add printer steps. I saw SE Linux warnings so I looked at the messages and ran the following per the SE Linux recommendatio