That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread mike cloaked
Since posting via gmane seems not to have propagated through to the main list I am sending this separately: Anne Wilson googlemail.com> writes: > Maybe they can't. Some problems can't be fixed until we get 4.1. On the > whole, though, I agree with you. It took a little getting used to, but I

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread pds
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400 max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: > > mike cloaked wrote: > > > >> Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all > >> perhaps need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than > >> simply grumble. > > > > Be careful, I'

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, pds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400 > max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Rex Dieter wrote: >> > mike cloaked wrote: >> > >> >> Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all >> >> perhaps need a little patience and do

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread Rex Dieter
pds wrote: > When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, I'll ask > for the older version back anytime. You want specific examples: And there are a multitude of specific examples where kde4 is better. This is certainly not constructive feedback. Sigh, if you like kde3, fin

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread pds
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pds wrote: > > > When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, > > I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific > > examples: > > And there are a multitude of specific examples where k

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread pds
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:09:57 -0500 "Arthur Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, pds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400 > > max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Rex Dieter wrote: > >> > mike cloaked wrote: > >> > > >> >> Most of t

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2008/7/7, pds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 > Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> pds wrote: >> >> > When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, >> > I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific >> > examples: >> >> And there

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Joonas Sarajärvi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your desires conflict with the objectives of the distribution you > are using and you don't want to just put up with the differences, you > are better off using an alternative, To clarify this a bit, although I think

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 July 2008 04:48:15 pds wrote: > It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what > is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific > way or need to work in a specific way then. Just what is it you don't understand? You have a choice. Mo

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Rex Dieter
pds wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 >> Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just >> that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something >> possible(1) or supported. Answer was no. >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ >> >> (1) without

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2008 04:48:15 pds wrote: >> It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what >> is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific >> way or need to work in a specific

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pds wrote: > >> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 > >>> Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just >>> that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something >>> possible(1) or supported. Answe

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Pete Snider wrote: Thank you for pointing that out, I wasn't aware that all packages had to be able to be installed at one time. I'll try it on a fresh disk this week, it should be interesting. The guidelines are more detailed than that. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Conflicts You m

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote: > Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent > functionality) KDE 3.5. People are working flat out to do just that. However, the constant whining just de-motivates them. I intend to continue trying to help those who ask for it,

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote: >> Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent >> functionality) KDE 3.5. > > People are working flat out to do just that. However, the constant whining > just

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 July 2008 13:47:44 Pete Snider wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote: > >> Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent > >> functionality) KDE 3.5. > > > > People are working

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread stan
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: 2008/7/7, pds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pds wrote: When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific exampl

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:24 AM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: >> >> 2008/7/7, pds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> >>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 >>> Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> pds wrote: > > When features are in KDE3.5 w

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Mustafa Qasim
+1 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:50 PM, mike cloaked <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since posting via gmane seems not to have propagated through to the > main list I am sending this separately: > > Anne Wilson googlemail.com> writes: > > > Maybe they can't. Some problems can't be fixed until we get 4

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Rex Dieter
mike cloaked wrote: > Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all perhaps > need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than simply grumble. Be careful, I'd really like to avoid giving an impression that any stuff like this is unwanted or falls on deaf ears. Just keep

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread max
Rex Dieter wrote: mike cloaked wrote: Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all perhaps need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than simply grumble. Be careful, I'd really like to avoid giving an impression that any stuff like this is unwanted or falls on dea

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon June 16 2008 05:50:35 mike cloaked wrote: > I am filing bugs in BZ when I find issues and all of us who are using KDE4 > should contribute to its development by doing this. A respectful reminder to people reading the above to be careful not to duplicate known bugs. KDE devels are working l

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:45:14 -0500 Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just keep in mind that constructive feedback, even in the form of > complaining, is invaluable. The "constructive" part being very important. Yea, but developers by their very nature are utterly incapable of interpreting: