Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can deterministically reproduce this breakdown. Shall I video tape it, > if you don't want to believe me? I have a rawhide laptop going here... got the error dialog referred to in the bug...exactly once. if I use add/r

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Makhlin
Michael H. Warfield wrote: I probably should stay out of this... But... On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:17 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: Is this turning into a religious war? Nope - just trying to point out that there is

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/04/2008 02:56 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Craig White wrote: >> >>> >>> because... >>> >>> >> >> And: >> >> 4. The Ubuntu life cycle is much longer than Fedora, making it mo

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/04/2008 02:56 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Craig White wrote: because... And: 4. The Ubuntu life cycle is much longer than Fedora, making it more stable for production environments. I don't particularly buy that argument. If you ar

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > because... > And: 4. The Ubuntu life cycle is much longer than Fedora, making it more stable for production environments. -- Dave Ihnat President, DMINET Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Michael H. Warfield
I probably should stay out of this... But... On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:17 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Armin Moradi wrote: > > > > > Is this turning into a religious war? > > > > > > > > Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to > >

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:17 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Armin Moradi wrote: > > > > > Is this turning into a religious war? > > > > > > > > Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to > > the OPs question. It depends on too many facto

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Makhlin
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Armin Moradi wrote: Is this turning into a religious war? Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to the OPs question. It depends on too many factors for the answer to be the same in all situations. The OP has not given us enough infor

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-03 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Armin Moradi wrote: > > > Is this turning into a religious war? > Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to the OPs question. It depends on too many factors for the answer to be the same in all situations. The OP has not given us enough information to even take a guess o

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-03 Thread kanhiya deswal
infact on my computer none of them provide best linux environment i downloaded fedora 9 burned iso image to cd, cd boots perfectly but hangs in middle way in case of ubuntu i got free media from canonical ,i installed it easily but there is sound problem which has not been solved yet from past six

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-03 Thread Armin Moradi
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Alex Makhlin wrote: > > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> Alex Makhlin wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora > >>> 9. Personally I like Fedora 9.

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-03 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Alex Makhlin wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> Alex Makhlin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora >>> 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. >>> >>> >> Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. >> >> Mi

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-03 Thread Les
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 11:48 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > Which one do you think is better and for what > >> reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora > 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. > > > >>> Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct > >> tool fo

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:21:04 -0600, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: work as a business. The Delorian is best known as the car in the "Back to the Future"movies. Perhaps, but their owner's creative ideas in financing also got them a lot of noteriety at the

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:21:04 -0600, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > work as a business. The Delorian is best known as the car in the "Back > to the Future"movies. Perhaps, but their owner's creative ideas in financing also got them a lot of noteriety at the time. That wouldn't ge

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 02 November 2008 01:21:04 pm Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> really big snip > > The Ford Edsel model might be a good match to what fedora does. Have > you heard of that one? It stuck all the new technology available in > 1957 into one car. Engineering-wise it was not bad at all, but it was

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 12:21 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > The Delorian is best known as the car in the "Back > to the Future"movies. Ah, you mean the DeLorean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delorean) poc PS They used to make them a few miles from my parent's house in Belfast, till they went bankr

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 11:48 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > > While having choices is nice, if you are going to make the inevitable > internet car analogy, if one of the companies (Linux distros in general) > only has about 1% of the total market to begin with, would you still > think it was a go

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > &g

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Antonio Olivares wrote: Which is better Ford or Chevy? Wait there's also Dodge, Toyota, ..., great to have choices. Linux is like this also. I happen to agree with Mikkel on this one :) While having choices is nice, if you are going to make the inevitable internet car analogy, if one of th

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Antonio Olivares
> > The job is sir to have the best Linux environment. So > which is better, Fedora OR Ubuntu? > > From a 'use' perspective you end up with pretty > much the same applications with just some slight version > differences that leapfrog each other based on the respective > release dates. > > The dif

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Alex Makhlin wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Alex Makhlin wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. Mikkel The job is sir to have th

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Antonio Olivares
> >> The job is sir to have the best Linux environment. > So which > >> is better, Fedora OR Ubuntu? > >> > >> -- > > > > Great Question :) > > Sorry to nose in on this question. But how about > BOTH! > > Fedora for getting in recent/latest packages ie. > kernel, gcc, glibc, ..., etc. > > Ubunt

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Antonio Olivares wrote: Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. Mikkel The job is sir to have the best Linux environment. So which is better, Fed

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Alex Makhlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Alex Makhlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9 > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Sunday,

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread bob smith
Alex Makhlin wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Alex Makhlin wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. Mikkel The job is sir to have

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-02 Thread Alex Makhlin
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Alex Makhlin wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. Mikkel The job is sir to have the best Linux environ

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Les Mikesell wrote: > Dave Ihnat wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so >>> it is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an >>> RPM based system with redhat-style configu

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:14:51 -0500 "Arthur Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Package kit is being adopted across all major distros. You mean it is being ported across all major distros, not the same as being adopted :-). There is no porting per say of PackageKit at al

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:14:51 -0500 "Arthur Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package kit is being adopted across all major distros. You mean it is being ported across all major distros, not the same as being adopted :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: h

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:28:22 -0500 Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so it > is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an RPM > based system with redhat-style configuration frequently. Yea, at work we

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tom Horsley wrote: However, the synaptic GUI (at least on modern ubuntu systems) is the only package management GUI that ever just made sense to me out of the box with no learning curve, and it does stuff no other gui seems to do, like downloading more than one package at a time This depends o

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:18:40 + "Marcelo M. Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you tried yumex? I think it's pretty nice. I prefer "yum" than > apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg, etc. Yep, in fact I use yumex in preference to the packagekit gui when I need to search for stuff and want to do a r

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dan Thurman
Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9.

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Arthur Pemberton wrote: Overall the big win with ubuntu is that they've managed to get most of the packages you are likely to ever want into a set of pre-configured repositories that are generally consistent with each other. With RPM based systems you'll end up having to track down an assortme

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> And also has nothing to do with RPM itself. >> >> Ultimately not. RPM is just a tool that goes out to get packages from >> a predefined >> location. Whether it finds or not what is looking for... that's another >> st

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Fred Silsbee
--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9 > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Thu

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Overall the big win with ubuntu is that they've managed to get most

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Aldo Foot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Overall the big win with ubuntu is that they've managed to get most of the >> packages you are likely to ever want into a set of pre-configured >> rep

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Sure, but there were reasons that SysV, AIX, Solaris, HPUX etc. didn't share the best way do everything. Among opensource builds of essentially the same upstream packages there's less excuse to maintain intenti

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Overall the big win with ubuntu is that they've managed to get most of the > packages you are likely to ever want into a set of pre-configured > repositories that are generally consistent with each other. With RPM based > s

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 10:20 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: >

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > Sure, but there were reasons that SysV, AIX, Solaris, HPUX etc. didn't > share the best way do everything. Among opensource builds of > essentially the same upstream packages there's less excuse to maintain > intentional differe

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so it is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an RPM based system with redhat-style configuration frequently. True; but if

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so it > is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an RPM > based system with redhat-style configuration frequently. True; but if you've lived i

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 10:20 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: > > Both distros have live media. Why don't you download them and try out > > eac

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 > Petrus de Calguarium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> and they lack the sophistication of rpm and yum, having to make due with the >> deficient and awkward apt system > > Huh? Synaptic is

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:07:18AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > I have to completely disagree with that. (At least the last part) I have > a fairly large network (20+ systems, some SGI clusters) and I must say I > have more trouble out of my Debian systems (put in before my time) than > any oth

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Mark Haney wrote: vince wrote: I agree with you, however, would also like to point out that personally I think Ubuntu is a compromise between RHE and Fedora. For a stable and safe business environment I would rather use Debian instead of Ubuntu. Regards vince I have to completely disagree

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or >> Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. > > I'll tell you the

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: > Hi all, > > Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or > Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. I'll tell you the same thing here that I tell folks in the #fedora IRC channel: Both distros have liv

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Vincenzo Campanella
Mark Haney ha scritto: I have to completely disagree with that. (At least the last part) I have a fairly large network (20+ systems, some SGI clusters) and I must say I have more trouble out of my Debian systems (put in before my time) than any other system I run. And we run everything from RH

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 19:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 19:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider de

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in the latest packagekit. In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's comp

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Mark Haney
vince wrote: I agree with you, however, would also like to point out that personally I think Ubuntu is a compromise between RHE and Fedora. For a stable and safe business environment I would rather use Debian instead of Ubuntu. Regards vince I have to completely disagree with that. (At lea

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in > >> the latest packagekit. > > > > In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's comple

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread vince
Il giorno gio, 30/10/2008 alle 07.55 -0500, Dave Ihnat ha scritto: > It's not so much a matter of "better" in an absolute sense, as what's > necessary to manage a system and/or network in a production environment. > > Fedora is bleeding-edge, and volatile. It's expected to be; this is > where th

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and they lack the sophistication of rpm and yum, having to make due with the deficient and awkward apt system Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to ubuntu. You want t

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in the latest packagekit. In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's completely busted: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467976 Discussion w

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:34:38PM -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > I have never had rpm, yum or PackageKit crash on me, but that is a > signature trait of Synaptic. With all respect, that's not universal. I've had absolute reliable Synaptic/apt/dpkg performance on four Ubuntu systems--one se

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:10:31PM -0700, Alex Makhlin wrote: > They are both different in many ways. I don't wish to take much time of > this forum to answer this question. Ubuntu seems to be the main choice > of major computer companies but why? What is so far better in Ubuntu > then Fedor

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in > the latest packagekit. In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's completely busted: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467976 -- fedora-list mailing list fedo

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Les Mikesell wrote: > > Can't you still just: > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > in a terminal window and save the GUIness for when you want to pick a > new package or two? > I have finally learned that with sidux. And that method has never crashed on me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-l

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Chris
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:54:31 -0500 Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > >> Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to > >> ubuntu. You want to talk deficient and awkward, compare packagekit > >> to synaptic and decid

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to ubuntu. You want to talk deficient and awkward, compare packagekit to synaptic and decide which is deficient. I have never had rpm, yum or PackageKit crash on me, but that is a signatu

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Tom Horsley wrote: > Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to ubuntu. > You want to talk deficient and awkward, compare packagekit to synaptic > and decide which is deficient. > I have never had rpm, yum or PackageKit crash on me, but that is a signature trait of Synaptic. I

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
David Hláčik wrote: Are you referring to some of the freetype font hinting which is patent encumbered? If so, a rpmfusion package is available for that. Ubuntu hasn't done any specific patching in that area afaik. Well that is not true , they patched cairo , freetype, libXft with patented bytec

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread David Hláčik
> Are you referring to some of the freetype font hinting which is patent > encumbered? If so, a rpmfusion package is available for that. Ubuntu hasn't > done any specific patching in that area afaik. > Well that is not true , they patched cairo , freetype, libXft with patented bytecode hinting , pl

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
David Hláčik wrote: Well, one of the reasons could be better font rendering in Ubuntu , but there are patched rpm with ubuntu rendering available for Fedora. Are you referring to some of the freetype font hinting which is patent encumbered? If so, a rpmfusion package is available for that. Ub

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread David Hláčik
> > I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in the > latest packagekit. You probably mean gpk-application, the GNOME frontend to > packagekit since packagekit is just a library and not directly comparable to > synaptic. > > Moreover, apt-rpm and synaptic are already avai

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and they lack the sophistication of rpm and yum, having to make due with the deficient and awkward apt system Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to ubuntu. You want t

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Alex Makhlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. > Personally I like Fedora 9. None is better than the other. The notion is that *buntu is easier to setup and maintain.. The question h

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and they lack the sophistication of rpm and yum, having to make due with the > deficient and awkward apt system Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to ubuntu. You want to talk deficient an

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Chris
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Makhlin wrote: > > > Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or > > Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. > > > In my personal experience, the 'buntus are not as mature as Fedora > (do

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 15:45 -0700, Alex Makhlin wrote: > Hi all, > > Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora > 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. I'm sure we all prefer Ubuntu, that's why we hang out on the Fedora list. I think you need to rephrase the question. What

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Makhlin
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Alex Makhlin wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. Mikkel They are both different in many ways. I don't

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Alex Makhlin wrote: > Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora > 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. > In my personal experience, the 'buntus are not as mature as Fedora (don't have the professional backing of Red Hat); servers are painfully slow, so net installation a

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Alex Makhlin wrote: > Hi all, > > Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora > 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. > Better for what? It is a matter of using the correct tool for the job. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and tast

Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-29 Thread Alex Makhlin
Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingLis