Interview with Fedora's Max Spevack

2007-10-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi A relatively older interview but I missed it before and so here it is. There are interesting bits and pieces in there for all. http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2007/06/interview-with-fedoras-max-spevack.html "Fedora is a distribution that we try to release twice a year, and we try to al

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El dom, 07-10-2007 a las 22:42 +0200, Herman Meester escribió: > > > 2007/10/7, M Daniel R Magarzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > El dom, 07-10-2007 a las 00:24 -0400, Gian Paolo Mureddu > escribió: > > > > Liberty and freedom are synonymous, but they are used in completely >

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 07 octobre 2007 à 23:15 +0200, M Daniel R Magarzo a écrit : > Most of you (developers -mostly from Red Hat or got involved there, > etc...-) think that everyone that uses Linux, having chose or not > Fedora, is a developer too, and therefore is in condition of promote big > changes in

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: El lun, 08-10-2007 a las 00:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escribió: M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: You're right. The main problem IMHO is that despite everything, nobody knows very well what are the identity signs that Fedora should have, nor the possible target audience it shou

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El lun, 08-10-2007 a las 00:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escribió: > M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: > > > > You're right. The main problem IMHO is that despite everything, nobody > > knows very well what are the identity signs that Fedora should have, nor > > the possible target audience it should be inten

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On 10/7/07, M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: >>> The Fedora Project is something really special, it is even the engine >>> of the linux community. >> I do not think so, sincerely. I think that sentence goes two steps >> forward from where it should reasonably. I wonder what new apps or feature I'm using

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature

2007-10-07 Thread Herman Meester
2007/10/7, M Daniel R Magarzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > El dom, 07-10-2007 a las 00:24 -0400, Gian Paolo Mureddu escribió: > > > > > Would (roughly) translate into: > > > > "Fedora: Liberty included" > > > > Now, I *chose* __Liberty__ instead of "freedom" given the ambiguous > > meaning of "free" in

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 09:27:07PM +0200, M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: > -Simplicity —finding the core of any idea.. > Pass (maybe) > -Unexpectedness —grabbing people's attention > by surprising them ... > FAIL (IMO) Perhaps this is the key di

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: > El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 19:33 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen escribió: > >> My gut feeling tells me I disagree although my brain admits I haven't >> been using too much other distros lately; what distro (non-Fedora based) >> exactly does offer Freedom as much or as strong

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 22:35 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay escribió: > > Sounds good, but isn't primarily for fedora. > > But it just fits the SUCCES bits of > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_to_Stick > > :) -Simplicity —finding the core of any idea.. Pass (maybe) -U

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 18:59 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH escribió: > On 10/5/07, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > > What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora? > > It's been rolling around in my head ever since. What do you folks think? > > Sounds good, but isn't primarily for fedora. >

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
M Daniel R Magarzo wrote: You're right. The main problem IMHO is that despite everything, nobody knows very well what are the identity signs that Fedora should have, nor the possible target audience it should be intended. But this is another discussion that I won't to open here. http://gregdek

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 20:16 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH escribió: > I would rather prefer a slogan(for fedora) which values Fedora > Contributors(RH and community) and not contributors of other distros. > Many fedora contributors spend about 4 hours per day for fedora, at > least it's my case. Havin

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 12:35 -0700, Karsten Wade escribió: > On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 09:43 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > What do people think of this as "The Slogan" of Fedora? > > What's funny is, just the other day, I came up with two in the middle of > writing something: "Fedora means f

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 19:33 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen escribió: > > My gut feeling tells me I disagree although my brain admits I haven't > been using too much other distros lately; what distro (non-Fedora based) > exactly does offer Freedom as much or as strong as Fedora does? > Debian mayb

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El dom, 07-10-2007 a las 00:24 -0400, Gian Paolo Mureddu escribió: > > Would (roughly) translate into: > > "Fedora: Liberty included" > > Now, I *chose* __Liberty__ instead of "freedom" given the ambiguous > meaning of "free" in colloquial English. "Free" is ambiguous indeed, but "freedom" is

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El sáb, 06-10-2007 a las 19:47 -0400, Alejo Cerrat0 escribió: > Hi, > > > i've been following the discussion, and I'd like to add variations of > the slogan to be considered: > > > Fedora: Freedom Capable > > > Freedom: Not just another feature > > > Fedora: Freedom Integrated > > > Fedor

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature.

2007-10-07 Thread M Daniel R Magarzo
El vie, 05-10-2007 a las 23:22 +0200, JoergSimon escribió: > Am Freitag, 5. Oktober 2007 22:20:02 schrieb John Babich: > > On 10/5/07, Karsten Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Freedom is a feature, not a bug". > > boring > I agree. It seems intended for tech people. However, potential n

Re: Fedora: Freedom is a Feature

2007-10-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:24:06AM -0400, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > liberty (or so is my [limited] understanding of the English language), I > do believe that the Freedom in Fedora and Free and Open Source software > is actually "liberty" (non-ambiguous with gratis or free of [monetary] > cost