Re: fedora updates and lts

2008-10-22 Thread Jonas Karlsson
Mani A wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Chuck Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We already have such a thing. Its called "rawhide" and it gets released every day. BTW, isn't your proposal the exact *opposite* of what this thread is talking about? LTS = long term support. You'd be

Re: fedora updates and lts

2008-10-22 Thread Jonas Karlsson
Mani A wrote: He is probably talking about 'Marketing it that way' :) Best A. Mani marketing can still be done in the traditional way. The users/public as stated before likes releases. To know that something has progressed/changed. But I was in the end more interested in making it easier

statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Jonas Karlsson
Interested to know if there is any statistics about hwo you all are here on the marketing list. If the majority are developers or if there is a mix including people that do not write code. historically speaking developers are good at creating new development models, cool features, new and inno

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Jonas Karlsson wrote: This is still the Linux world so I'd guess the majority are developers and the developers are the rulers, judges and executioners. They are the ones to write and merge the code, to decide which idéas go where. So my question about statistics is about that, to know if the

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Jonas Karlsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Jonas Karlsson wrote: This is still the Linux world so I'd guess the majority are developers and the developers are the rulers, judges and executioners. They are the ones to write and merge the code, to decide which idéas go where. So my question about statistics is about

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Jonas Karlsson wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I am more curious on how are you intending to count people for such stats. You are way ahead of me there, I was still asking about if this has been done! I don't think this has be done, as it is really hard to do (for the reasons mentioned above)

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread "G"
Hi > Also, treating non-code developers as second class contributors (which such > counting may lead to), is a sure way to drive them away. I agree to this point. A very valid point, If we are thinking in terms of giving some credits/points to the contributors, it should include everything. It s

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Jonas Karlsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Jonas Karlsson wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I am more curious on how are you intending to count people for such stats. You are way ahead of me there, I was still asking about if this has been done! I don't think this has be done, as it is really hard to do (for the rea

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Mani A
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> anyone more than me interested in this statistics? > > I am more curious on how are you intending to count people for such stats. > If the raw data is available in some reasonable format (without artificial aggregation),

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Mani A wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: anyone more than me interested in this statistics? I am more curious on how are you intending to count people for such stats. If the raw data is available in some reasonable format (without artificial aggr

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
> Well, getting the data is the hard part, I was questioning here... > - the list of subscribers is not something to give away easily, > otherwise it will be a delight for spammers; What about EKG ? http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=740 Here's an example of what it can do: http://people.fedoraproje

Re: statistics about marketing list users?

2008-10-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: Well, getting the data is the hard part, I was questioning here... - the list of subscribers is not something to give away easily, otherwise it will be a delight for spammers; What about EKG ? http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=740 Well, of course there are ways

Hints & Tips suggestions

2008-10-22 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Hey all, I'm looking for suggestions of hints and tips that we could publish to Fedora Magazine? Jon -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Re: Hints & Tips suggestions

2008-10-22 Thread Victor Fernandez
Hi Jonathan, sure this link will be useful: http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/contenedores-en-linux.html http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/zfs-on-linux.html http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/08/fedora-linux-9.html Regards. 2008/10/22 Jonathan Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey a

Re: Hints & Tips suggestions

2008-10-22 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
> Hey all, > > I'm looking for suggestions of hints and tips that we could publish to > Fedora Magazine? - how are menus managed (.desktop files) - using pkcon instead of yum - switch backends of Totem (maybe only if totem-xine doesn't depend on some stuff found in livna / RPMFusion) - write your

Re: Hints & Tips suggestions

2008-10-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Jonathan Roberts wrote: Hey all, I'm looking for suggestions of hints and tips that we could publish to Fedora Magazine? Here is a hint, but probably not exactly the kind of hint you asked for: set a queue (it may be a wiki page or comments on a blog article) where people submit their hints

Re: Hints & Tips suggestions

2008-10-22 Thread Nicu Buculei
Nicu Buculei wrote: Jonathan Roberts wrote: Hey all, I'm looking for suggestions of hints and tips that we could publish to Fedora Magazine? Here is a hint, but probably not exactly the kind of hint you asked for: set a queue (it may be a wiki page or comments on a blog article) where peopl

Re: Hints & Tips suggestions

2008-10-22 Thread María Leandro
I write a little config help to use a genius tablet;you cant talk about new hardware too. 2008/10/23 Nicu Buculei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> I'm looking for suggestions of hints and tips that we could publish to >>> Fedora Magazi

Estimating the Total Development Cost of a Linux Distribution

2008-10-22 Thread John Babich
To All Interested: New whitepaper by the Linux Foundation based on an analysis of what it would cost to develop Fedora 9: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/estimatinglinux.php "In 2002, David A. Wheeler published a well-regarded study that examined the Software Lines of Code present in

Developers vs Grandmas

2008-10-22 Thread Doug Berry
>>Jonas wrote: >historically speaking developers are good at creating new development >models, cool features, new and innovative stuff and be the cowboys on >the frontline. One thing that developers has been better and better at >over the years is human interaction, this is still an area that it is