Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-09-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 16:22 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: 2008/9/2 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They are required to do this, if they use the Fedora trademarks to advertise the media for sale: http://fedoraproject.org/legal/trademarks/guidelines/page4.html I didn't say they weren't.

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-09-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 10:17:31AM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vendors should clearly state the quality of the media being used. I do not agree with this. I think vendors should be required to have a stated warranty on the

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-09-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
2008/9/2 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They are required to do this, if they use the Fedora trademarks to advertise the media for sale: http://fedoraproject.org/legal/trademarks/guidelines/page4.html I didn't say they weren't. What I'm saying is I don't think we should be in the business

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-09-01 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Mani A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vendors should clearly state the quality of the media being used. I do not agree with this. I think vendors should be required to have a stated warranty on the media to be listed. Individual customers can choose vendors based on

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-09-01 Thread Mani A
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When bad media happens we must rely on the vendors to stand behind the terms of the warranty statements in place at the time of sale. If they can't live up to the warranty statements then they get booted from our list.

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Frank Murphy
Paul W. Frields wrote: On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? Looking at the various replies. Without knowing the actual complaint(s). It's difficult, to make a judgement. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors Remember, we do reserve the right to

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Frank Murphy
addendum: I don't see any policy pertaining to removal. Frank -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Max Spevack
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? They enjoy their presence on the list at the pleasure of the FPL or other Ambassadors/Marketing leadership. If they are misbehaving, just remove them. IMHO, no need for a committee

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Frank Murphy
Max Spevack wrote: On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: They enjoy their presence on the list at the pleasure of the FPL or other Ambassadors/Marketing leadership. If they are misbehaving, just remove them. IMHO, no need for a committee discussion on this item. Agreed, but

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
They enjoy their presence on the list at the pleasure of the FPL or other Ambassadors/Marketing leadership. If they are misbehaving, just remove them. IMHO, no need for a committee discussion on this item. Agreed, but would be nice to know if it was a scratched cd, or fraud. How

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 15:07 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: They enjoy their presence on the list at the pleasure of the FPL or other Ambassadors/Marketing leadership. If they are misbehaving, just remove them. IMHO, no need for a committee discussion on this item.

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Frank Murphy
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 15:07 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: Since the vendor in question hasn't responded to my attempt (or the customer's attempts) to contact them, I'm happy to note it here publicly now: LinuxOnline.biz apparently shipped a customer a

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread David Nalley
There should be a clear owner - perhaps FAmSCo (they are already supposed to be the public face) or something similar - that makes decisions about pulling people from the list. And $owner should be identified on the page so people know who to complain to. If there isn't a clear owner things are

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-31 Thread Mani A
2008/8/30 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? Do we have a Grievience Cell for dealing with customer dissatisfaction? Vendors should clearly state the quality of the media being used. We also need to distinguish between those who do

CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-30 Thread Francesco Ugolini
2008/8/30 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? That's my opinion: 1) Active or inactive vendors (are the versions they are shipping the newest or are they solding FC3?) 2) Are they applying a high prize (all we know the cost of

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 00:36 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: 2008/8/30 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? That's my opinion: 1) Active or inactive vendors (are the versions they are shipping the newest or are they solding

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-30 Thread brendon
agree with that and also what about vendors that are doing over priced distribution of the media, as a previous post said that we all know the price of media these days. also just a idea, i have thought of though, is why don't we also put in a information/fact sheet of fedora, ie about of its

Re: CD/DVD Distributors

2008-08-30 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 00:36 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: 2008/8/30 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On what basis do we remove vendors from our distribution list? 2) Are they applying a high prize (all we know the cost of media production and the earning from each CD/DVD distributed)