Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Beth Noren
Glenda, many of us here mix our vaccinated negatives with our positives. It is a calculated risk that takes into account quality of life, as is your decision to allow your cats outside. In my situation, with my neighborhood and my street-senseless cats, an outdoor kitty is a risk that I won't tak

Re: Another one gone

2007-09-24 Thread catatonya
Tracy, I'm so sorry for your losses. It's so hard to bear when you lose them close together like that. Take care of yourself and healing vibes to your cat undergoing chemo. I hope you have many good days left. tonya Tracy Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I lost t

Re: Lovey is gone

2007-09-24 Thread catatonya
Janine, I am so terribly sorry. Lovey came a long way to live with your mom and with you. I'm happy he found such a loving home. I'm also sorry to hear about Perry. I remember your mother writing about him. How is the white persian who came up with Lovey. I can't remember her nam

Re: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...Crash Landing

2007-09-24 Thread janine paton
Ah, but only a cat would have to choose between amputaion or death. I see no difference with this logic and killing cats who test positive. Catsinternational.org (also based in the midwest) has thankfully updated their page on declawing. They are calling for people to name declawing what it

Re: ...emotionally charged issues...are rough...

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Please dont try to save mty feelings.Just don't read anymore of my posts and I will do the same!! We are not evil people Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are flattering me, Glenda. And I know that Sherry puts her soul into helping these cats, and it is not her fault that it is ran t

Re: ...emotionally charged issues...are rough...

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Glenda that is great that you would let Susan run your 300 million dollar shelter!! It would be great. glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So many of the people here put their heart and soul and every spare minute possible into helping and learning about cats/animals. There are certain b

Re: ...emotionally charged issues...are rough...

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
You are flattering me, Glenda. And I know that Sherry puts her soul into helping these cats, and it is not her fault that it is ran this way, however, it does not make it "Ok" by any means. We are on this list because we have or had cats that are felv+, and this discussion is about someone who

Re: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
We are not hoarders and I guess I made it sound like it when I said she can't say no. She does have to say enough is enough from time to time.Like right now,we can't take in anymore until we have more adoptions.Periodically we have to.We have a list to get cats into our program and it is a LONG

...emotionally charged issues...are rough...

2007-09-24 Thread glenda Goodman
So many of the people here put their heart and soul and every spare minute possible into helping and learning about cats/animals. There are certain basic rules of common sense that even I have learned in the last few months when it comes to dealing with these two diseases: FeLV and FIV. There ar

Re: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
no, I don't think that everything that I do is perfect, (I am FAR from perfect) but this is basic common sense. Leave this list due to rudeness? I would bet that if you posted how this shelter operates on any other list, you would get worse then me. Why don't you just work to help change it?

Re: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Do the words FLOCK, AngelWings, Wild Cat Ranch or ARC (in Dallas) ring ANY bells w/anyone? You cannot run a shelter and mix diseases. Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state,

Re: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread OfALegend
The phrase comes to mind, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." :( I have no doubt whoever is running this shelter has the best of intentions. One of my girls, the one I think was the first positive, came from just such a shelter (Angel Wings in Kingston, TN). I know this lady

Re: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
WHATEVER!!! I am sorry that this has come to what it is.do you think everything you do is perfect!!?? Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, THAT rant was intended for one person on this list. However, let me just tell you this, if a REPUTABLE, ETHICAL vet in the area fi

Re: arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Well Susan that is just RUDE of you!!! So you think just because everyone does NOT agree with you that it is the wrong way!! The HELLHOLE here is your closed mind!! Now I see why some very good people have left this felv talk.It is because of rudeness like yours!!! Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Susan yes you are entitled to your opinion.But do you seriously think death would be a better alternative!! THe vet that runs it all has a hard time turning away any cat and for that I respect her.I promise you will not have to CLEANUP after this shelter.She is a smart lady and knows our limits.

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Glenda I DO NOT hate anybody,but I do get tired of defending the way Crash's landing is run.It is run by a licensed vet and she is a wonderful human with a big heart.The fiv cats are vaccinated for felv and yes we know it is not 100% safe.But it is either this or death.We love each and every one

arrrggghhh.....! Part II.!

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
This "shelter"mixes felv+ cats w/ fiv+ cats,due to lack of space to separate..! Read below. What kind of hellhole is this? It's called "crash landing" PLease do not forward.. Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Sorry, but it is irresponsible to deliberately expose cats w/already compromised immune systems from one deadly disease to another deadly disease.. That is just bad news. And no, you cannot save them all. And if you try, well, that's another can of worms. I am entitled to my opinion, and so ar

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread glenda Goodman
Sherry, She is absolutely beautiful. I have to tell you, when I realized the thinking behind how your shelter, where you volunteer, with the declawing policy and reading about the section for the special needs kitties I thought I would ask if the FIV+ kitties were mixed with the FeLV+ kitties. I

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Well I guess it is either that or just them die without a chance to live at all.You can only do so much with what you can. So I guess now you think this is a horrible place?? This place gives them ALL a second chance to have any kind of life at all !! Believe me I'm sure in a PERFECT world thi

Re: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 9/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that my opinion matters, but I'd personally have a difficult time > accepting someone's (a veterinarian that declaws) word on something who > stands to gain (financially) from declawing cats. > > If you want a case study, take a look:

Re: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread ofalegend
Not that my opinion matters, but I'd personally have a difficult time accepting someone's (a veterinarian that declaws) word on something who stands to gain (financially) from declawing cats. ? If you want a case study, take a look: http://www.pawproject.com/html/cases.asp?SortOrder=5

Re: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread Kelley Saveika
I'm not really sure I buy the theory that declawed cats are more likely to have behavioral problems. I've seen a lot of cats, both clawed and declawed, and behavioral problems seem to be about the same in both groups. We currently have a 12.5 year old declawed cat who is probably the sweetest cat

Recommendations from UTCVM

2007-09-24 Thread ofalegend
Hey all, ? As promised, below is the written recommendations from UTCVM on Poppy and Grizzabella.? Thoughts? __ ? Subject: Current FeLV recommendations Mr. Roberts, I apologize again for t

Re: Autumn - Rough Time

2007-09-24 Thread Lance
Hi Susan, I'm sorry to hear that little Autumn hasn't been feeling well. Being proactive definitely helps, for Autumn and for you. As for finding a vet who uses interferon, the best way is probably to call vets in your area, especially cat-only vets. I was very fortunate in finding my vet right

RE: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Actually, Glenda found the website, but I've been exploring it today, getting some ideas for creating some educational literature to pass around at vet's offices, pet stores, anyone who will listen. I dated a guy once who had a declawed kitty that was very mean and not a little bit psycho. My

RE: Autumn - Rough Time

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Susan, I'm so sorry to hear about Autumn's troubles. It's so heart-breaking to see them go through this, and it just doesn't seem fair. How old is little Autumn? I don't know anything about vets and Interferon, but I do know that you are a wonderful person for helping this little soul. I hope s

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
WHAT? This shelter does not separate fiv+ and felv+.? What kind of place is this? Why would you expose a fiv+ cat to felv? And vice versa? Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra

Re: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Excellent, Melissa! They take them until they figure out that the cat now bites when it feels the least bit threatened or it pees & poops everywhere EXCEPT the litterbox due to the pain in it's paws from being multilated. Those were ALWAYS the reasons people would try & dump them@ the shelter t

Autumn - Rough Time

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Ang
Wow it's been a rough time for little Autumn. We just came back from our second vet visit in two and a half weeks. The first time Autumn was slightly lethargic with fever and swollen glands so they put her on Amoxicillan. She responded quickly and perked right up. However, this week she lapsed into

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi Glenda,isn't she georgeous!!! :) We do not separate the felv and the fiv.I wish we had the space to do so.Until I become one of those crazy cat ladies that win the lottery it will have to do!! :) I myself have 3 fiv+ boys and one boy that tested felv+ when he first arrived to Sids and then 1

RE: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
I think that this website has some very interesting statistics. Check it out: http://www.pawproject.com Go to the FAQ section. Here is an answer I found interesting; I think it (and other answers on the site) partially negates the theory that cats are better off d

Re: OT:declawing your cat is illegal...

2007-09-24 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 9/23/07, glenda Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh well, we are just talking about cats here, so > whatever we need to do to them, so they can please us > humans, is all that really matters, right? > Glenda > No, but there are a lot of issues associated with declawing that don't typically g

Re: cat furniture

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Yes, and there is absolutly NO cardboard All wood,which makes them nice & heavy, no "tip over".. Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state,

Re: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread glenda Goodman
Sherry, I just clicked Mystique. My computer got stuck earlier...Anyway , she seems like an excellent little girl to have in your home...She will take your pain away and fill your heart. I see that she is FIV, but not FeLV+. Does Crash'slanding seperate their FIV+ kitties from their FeLV+ kitties

RE: cat furniture

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Thanks for the link-I've printed the pics so we can make these at home. Good winter project! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 4:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: cat furniture

RE: new Cat Fancy

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Wow Susan-you are so knowledgeable about the breeds. To me, it's the black/white cat, the calico, the tabby. It's kind of like my mom and cars: white car, red car, black truck, etc. Likewise, I'm not very aware when it comes to the technical terms or the lingo for cat breeds. I'm interested though,

RE: Here is the link

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Right on Susan and Glenda! I agree Glenda with the name change idea. Sometimes people may not even be aware of the damage they are inflicting because of the name itself. As a veggie, I always joke to my husband and family about the names we give meat. I ask him if he'd enjoy prime rib as much as "p

RE: Another one gone

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Tracy, So sorry to hear of your losses. It's never easy. At least they are happy now even if a part of you is lost each time you lose one. What a trooper you have at home! He must be the Bruce Willis of the bunch! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: Lovey is gone

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Janine, Lovey and Perry are at peace now. I hope you can find some comfort in the furry arms of the other kitties. Stay strong! Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Smith Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@

RE: Brian

2007-09-24 Thread Melissa Lind
Sherry, I'm praying for you and all the babies on Crash's website. They are all so beautiful. I just wanted to snuggle them all-especially your one-eyed pirate. He looks like a personality plus! Best to all of you, Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

RE: Another one gone

2007-09-24 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Tracy, I'm so sorry for your recent losses. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to them all, and hugs to you. And a skritch for your little trouper, hope he stays stable and comfortable for a long time yet. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

OT: cat furniture

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Hereis the website for the cat furniture that I recently bought. www.fandangocatfurniture.com I have 3 of the deluxe trees trimmed out in the leopard carpet. Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net

Re: Ok, I give up.

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Ahhh, adorable! Thanks for sharing.. :) Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait,

Re: Ok, I give up.

2007-09-24 Thread Susan Dubose
Lovely! Thanks so much for sharing..:) Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait,