Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread Belinda Sauro
Hi Gloria, It is suppose to have a kind of hypnotic effect on them to keep them clam, I think it simulates the way a mom kitty holds her kitten, can't say I noticed that with Fred but he figured since he couldn't reach me to bite me anymore it wasn't worth it to try so he stopped after a wee

Re: [Felvtalk] Dietary Supplements- Belinda

2009-08-12 Thread Belinda Sauro
It's an aluminum binder, its to bind the phosphorus because some CRF kitties have trouble with their phosphorus getting high and if it get too high it causes real problems. When Fred's phosphorus was at 8.1 which for a healthykitty is fine but for a CRF kitty is too high, he wouldn't eat was v

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have to ask, Belinda - what are the clothes pins for? Have had CRF cats, never tried that. Gloria On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: My thoughts on this: It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of the members were putting their very old, (16 t

Re: [Felvtalk] Dietary Supplements- Belinda

2009-08-12 Thread Lora
Belinds, Your Skeeter story is too funny! There is definitely a such thing as too much of a good thing! LOL. Ah! So Skeeter did receive a DL Methionine prescription! Perhaps I should replace my cranberry for this. However, if I do that, I lose the Vitamin C and Vitamin E as the cranberry is a

Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

2009-08-12 Thread Frank and Sue Koren
MaryChristine, Thank you for your kind words. I think it makes it easier to know that others do not judge you, even when you can't quite get past judging yourself. I know I have learned so much over the years and always hope to improve the way I take care of my kitties. There were cats I had

Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!

2009-08-12 Thread Reyna Castano
Thanks Gloria. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gloria B. Lane wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 9:13 AM Hi Snowball, I just wanted to se

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: need cancer-list info

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
LA or OC, we think--i sent you the post privately. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: > Where is the cat located? > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread Belinda Sauro
My thoughts on this: It tore my guts out to read about the horrendous things so many of the members were putting their very old, (16 to 19 years old) termininally ill cats through I just want to give another perspective, Fred is 18 or so now, he was 15 when he was diagnosed very early

Re: [Felvtalk] end of life decisions

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
maya angelou has it right: "when i knew better, i did better." you did the best you could with the information you had at the time, and had you known she had a tumor, you would have acted differently. now you know more about what to look for--that was part of her lesson to you. i wish i could rem

Re: [Felvtalk] end of life decisions

2009-08-12 Thread Jane Lyons
Hi Laurie I have been composing a reply to your post for a long time. It is so difficult to know what the right time is. I think MC's advise; "a day too early, rather than five minutes too late" is the best I have ever heard. I am still wracked with the incredible guilt I felt in treating my 18

Re: [Felvtalk] CRF cat (Sharyl)

2009-08-12 Thread Sharyl
Lorrie, "I always start treatment on a sick cat... Trying to keep them alive when they are obviously dying is not right." I agree completely with these statements. Sharyl --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Lorrie wrote: > From: Lorrie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] CRF cat (Sharyl) > To: felvtalk@felin

Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!

2009-08-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
They get distracted easily too - looking out the window, etc (well kind of like me lol) Gloria On Aug 12, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Cats are such clumsy typists. That's why you never see one in a secretarial position. Thanks for fixing that for Snowball. --- On Wed, 8/12

Re: [Felvtalk] CRF cat (Sharyl)

2009-08-12 Thread Lorrie
Hi Sharyl, I agree completely... I always start treatment on a sick cat. My CRF cat is hand fed (assist fed, not force fed) every 2 or three hours all day. He gets his meds, and I'll try fluids sub Q. when my vet feels he needs them. So far he is thriving, his coat has improved, he's gained wei

Re: [Felvtalk] Dietary Supplements- Belinda

2009-08-12 Thread Belinda Sauro
PS. I give meds to 3 of my 5 guys now and surprisingly considering the last one that I had to start on meds has never had to take anything, she is very good about it, thank goodness. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___

Re: [Felvtalk] Dietary Supplements- Belinda

2009-08-12 Thread Belinda Sauro
Lora, Way back in the 1990's my Skeeter had something, he couldn't pee and I took him in just in time, I can't remember what it was called back then, he would get cyrstals, he had to take a DL Methionine pill everyday, I think he was also on special food for a while too but as long as h

Re: [Felvtalk] OT: need cancer-list info

2009-08-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
Where is the cat located? --- On Wed, 8/12/09, MaryChristine wrote: > From: MaryChristine > Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: need cancer-list info > To: "FeLVTalk" > Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:22 AM > although our SCAT group (Special-Cat > Action Team) doesn't often work with > cancer patient

[Felvtalk] OT: need cancer-list info

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
although our SCAT group (Special-Cat Action Team) doesn't often work with cancer patients or survivors, occasionally we do--just learned of a kitty who had spleen removed, who needs a safe place to recover)--and we don't have any real contacts on which cancer-related lists/sites/groups are the best

Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
yeah, that's why i'm such a good chat host in MeowChat and do so well in LOLCat on www.icanhascheezburger.com: i speak and write fluent typo. (and the other key, of course, is to get the right pawboard, and/or, decent meow-recognition software.) i just posted the link, FROM the page itself, to my

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
it's the red gene, i'm told On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Amy Dalgliesh wrote: > MaryChristine, > What is it about those sassy, fiesty, independant calico girls that makes > us love them so? We must be suckers for punishment, cause they sure do love > to dole it out. One of mine is anci

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread Amy Dalgliesh
MaryChristine, What is it about those sassy, fiesty, independant calico girls that makes us love them so?  We must be suckers for punishment, cause they sure do love to dole it out.  One of mine is ancient, weighs less than 6 lbs, toothless and I still can't pill her.  She's the smallest cat of

Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!

2009-08-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
Cats are such clumsy typists. That's why you never see one in a secretarial position. Thanks for fixing that for Snowball. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > From: Gloria B. Lane > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. > Please read my story...T

Re: [Felvtalk] Hello, I'm Snowball, Felv+, and I need your help. Please read my story...Thanks!

2009-08-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Hi Snowball, I just wanted to send a corrected version of your fundable address, it had extra spaces in it and didn't work - maybe that'll make it easier for you to collect some money. I'm sorry you can't stay with Reyna. I see you're in Los Angeles, and going to Reno, NV. http://www.fun

Re: [Felvtalk] Research into FeLV: was Staph Protein A

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
hebert, i understand the fact that in terms of groups, FIV is closer to HIV than FeLV is, but I think it's very confusing to most people to say that they are comparable when you look at how they are transmitted. As you and i and gloria all say, FeLV acts more like HIV/AIDS than FIV does, and it see

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
i think it's really natural for us to want to try EVERYTHING to help our beloved ones, even when, sometimes, it's in our best interests and not really theirs. that's what i believe that i have learned from my cats in their final days. i know that, early on, i kept some of mine around longer tha

Re: [Felvtalk] Mean Kitty Channel

2009-08-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
Yes..he is FELV and they are pretty good ambassadors for the disease. This is what he says about Sparta: "UPDATE JANUARY 14th 2009: Some of you may be wondering why I haven't released a Mean Kitty video in a while, but I wasn't ready to announce why publicly until I knew for sure what was happenin

Re: [Felvtalk] Mean Kitty Channel

2009-08-12 Thread Lisa Borden
I'm very familiar with this video ... love it! I had no idea he has FeLV. What a great cat, and a great cat dad. - Original Message - From: "Kelley Saveika" To: "felvtalk" Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Mean Kitty Channel The "Mean Kitty" is Sparta,

[Felvtalk] Mean Kitty Channel

2009-08-12 Thread Kelley Saveika
The "Mean Kitty" is Sparta, an FELV+ kitty, who lives with Loki, a FELV- kitty - check it out - if you only have time to watch one, watch "The Mean Kitty Song in HD" very funny. http://www.youtube.com/TheMeanKitty -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist

Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision

2009-08-12 Thread MaryChristine
sue, i think that we learn those hard, hard lessons that way specifically so that we do NOT make the same choice again. you did the best you could with the information you had at the moment--buzz' last lesson to you may well have been to teach you to listen to your heart from now on. i thank th

Re: [Felvtalk] Research into FeLV: was Staph Protein A

2009-08-12 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks, Hebert, that's interesting, and glad to have the info correctly. However, I also wonder why FIV cats have so little problem - seems like HIV causes problems ("Aids") quite frequently, but in my experience, FIV cats rarely have FIV related problems. Any thoughts or info on that?

Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread Sharyl
Lorrie, Just a comment about CRF kitties. My Pequita was dx with CRF over 3 yrs ago. She'll be 17 this Oct. She has been on meds and daily sub q fluids for most of those 3 yrs. I assist feed her several times per day. She will only eat from a baby spoon. I do the meds, feedings and fluids

Re: [Felvtalk] Research into FeLV: was Staph Protein A

2009-08-12 Thread hebert ferrarezzi
Hi MaryChristine and Gloria, FIV is in fact a closer relative to HIV than is FeLV. The three belong to the same retrovirus family and subfamily, but FeLV belongs to the Gammaretrovirus group, whereas FIV and HIV belong to the Lentivirus group. The severe outcomes of the disease, however, mak

Re: [Felvtalk] Staph Protein A

2009-08-12 Thread hebert ferrarezzi
Yes, I’ve got it from Sigma-Aldrich, but I’m a biologist working in a research institute. I think someone with academic affiliation (such as a doctoral graduate student in veterinary) or perhaps someone working in an analytical laboratory would be apt to buy it after presenting credentials. he

[Felvtalk] Thank you for your help

2009-08-12 Thread Lorrie
Dear Friends, I want to thank all of you for your help and advice about the FelV cat in my cageless FelV shelter who is slowly wasting away. I really appreciate your caring responses. I did not want to take "Mimi" to the vet to be PTS, as it is so stressful for her, and you helped me make my deci