Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 11:28:07 +0100 Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-12-08 15:53 GMT+01:00 wm4 : > > advanced hardware transcoding (I'm still waiting for related > > work to be merged from Libav). > > Didn't you tell the responsible developer not to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-12-08 15:53 GMT+01:00 wm4 : > advanced hardware transcoding (I'm still waiting for related > work to be merged from Libav). Didn't you tell the responsible developer not to send his patches here implying you did not want them committed to FFmpeg? Carl Eugen

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 09.12.2016 10:26, wm4 wrote: > On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 00:30:24 +0100 > Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > >> On 08.12.2016 15:53, wm4 wrote: >>> (I'm still waiting for related work to be merged from Libav). >> >> Why don't you merge it yourself instead of waiting for

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 00:30:24 +0100 Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 08.12.2016 15:53, wm4 wrote: > > (I'm still waiting for related work to be merged from Libav). > > Why don't you merge it yourself instead of waiting for others? The commit to be merged next

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 08.12.2016 15:53, wm4 wrote: > (I'm still waiting for related work to be merged from Libav). Why don't you merge it yourself instead of waiting for others? > So yes, removing things can mean progress. However, removing ffserver now doesn't, because the libraries have to keep

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:33:20 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit : > > I explained it. Read it. > > It prooves you still do not understand the principle. You've demonstrated the complete inability to counter my arguments. Maybe you didn't

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit : > I explained it. Read it. It prooves you still do not understand the principle. Fortunately, the others do. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 16:02:18 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit : > > 3. It's entangled with the rest of the project and stops people from > > doing useful work. > > If it does not prevent build failures and is not present in the normal >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, wm4 a écrit : > 3. It's entangled with the rest of the project and stops people from > doing useful work. If it does not prevent build failures and is not present in the normal execution path, what does it even MEANS? Nothing! > Proof: Libav.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:29:58 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 15 frimaire, an CCXXV, Rostislav Pehlivanov a écrit : > > I need more time to decide. > > You supported dropping ffserver since before the vote started, and now > you are hesitating? Seriously? > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 12/7/2016 3:45 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-12-05 16:03 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > >>> Which reasons were not adressed? >> >> <@wbs> > > I am unfortunately unable to express how offensive and mean I > consider your answer. Thanks for not expressing it. I'm not

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Le septidi 17 frimaire, an CCXXV, Ronald S. Bultje a écrit : > I believe you missed Carl Eugen's vote (or at least I read it as a vote): > http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2016-December/203915.html Indeed, thanks for noticing. I belive it counts as "keep (slightly invalid)". Regards, --

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Hi, On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > keepAndreas Cadhalpun > keepMarton Balint > keepMichael Niedermayer (slightly invalid) > keepNicolas George > keepReynaldo H. Verdejo Pinochet (slightly invalid) I believe you missed Carl Eugen's

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-12-05 16:03 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> Which reasons were not adressed? > > <@wbs> I am unfortunately unable to express how offensive and mean I consider your answer. It's really extraordinarily disappointing. Carl Eugen ___

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Le quintidi 15 frimaire, an CCXXV, Rostislav Pehlivanov a écrit : > I need more time to decide. You supported dropping ffserver since before the vote started, and now you are hesitating? Seriously? Arriving at the last minute when it became obvious the tide turned to ensure a longer delay. Where

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 5 Dec 2016 6:45 a.m., "wm4" wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:15:28 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 12/5/2016 11:45 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-12-05 15:23 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> On 12/5/2016 7:20 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >>> 2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer : On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-11-29 21:11

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Hi, On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-12-05 15:23 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > > The technical reasons are there, described in the news entry you seem to > > not want to read, or at least properly parse. > > These past week

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-12-05 15:23 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > On 12/5/2016 7:20 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> 2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >>> On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:15:28 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/28/2016 3:15 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the technical problems that

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 12/5/2016 7:20 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >>> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > He's trying to override an announced project decision of removing a

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-11-29 21:53 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >>> He's trying to override an announced project decision of removing a feature. >> >> We - obviously - announced it to find

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

I support the decision to keep ffserver Bests, -- Reynaldo H. Verdejo Pinochet Open Source Group - Samsung Research America ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 28.11.2016 19:15, Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the technical problems that require

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Nicolas George wrote: Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead to it. I vote for keeping ffserver, as there are people working on it

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 03:11:33PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the technical

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 28.11.2016 19:53, Lou Logan wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote: ffserver has users I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there may be? How much feedback has there been from these alleged users regarding the removal plans? I don't

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-11-30 23:29 GMT+08:00 Nicolas George : > Le nonidi 9 frimaire, an CCXXV, James Almer a écrit : > > Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect > him to > > maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree? Or > is he > > just

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Le nonidi 9 frimaire, an CCXXV, James Almer a écrit : > Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to > maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree? Or is he > just fighting this fight to not remove code for the sake of not removing code, >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/29/16, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >>> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >>> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/29/2016 5:41 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >>> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >>> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-11-29 21:11 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: >> 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer : >> >>> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to >>> maintain it, improve and extend it if

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/29/2016 5:04 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > 2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > >> Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to >> maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree? > > How is this related? > For

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-11-28 19:15 GMT+01:00 Nicolas George : > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. Could you point me to this decision? What

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

2016-11-29 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Almer : > Seeing Nicolas is apparently very invested in ffserver, can we expect him to > maintain it, improve and extend it if it were to remain in the tree? How is this related? For which part of FFmpeg can we "expect" anybody to maintain it?

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/29/16, James Almer wrote: > On 11/28/2016 5:52 PM, Clement Boesch wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: >>> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. >>> >>> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver >>> is revoked,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/28/2016 5:52 PM, Clément Bœsch wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: >> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. >> >> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver >> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:15:28 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/29/2016 3:46 PM, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > On date Monday 2016-11-28 19:15:28 +0100, Nicolas George encoded: >> Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. >> >> I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver >> is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Hi Stefano, On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Stefano Sabatini wrote: > On date Monday 2016-11-28 19:15:28 +0100, Nicolas George encoded: > > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > > is revoked,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On date Monday 2016-11-28 19:15:28 +0100, Nicolas George encoded: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the technical

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Hi, On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 09:52:02PM +0100, Clément Bœsch wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On 11/28/2016 5:40 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 09:53:39AM -0900, Lou Logan wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote: >>> >>> ffserver has users >> >> I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there >> may be? How much

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:15:28PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. > > I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver > is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead > to it. > > In other words, if the technical

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 09:53:39AM -0900, Lou Logan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > > > > ffserver has users > > I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there > may be? How much feedback has there been from these alleged users >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016, at 09:15 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > > ffserver has users I don't know of any. Do you have an estimation of how many users there may be? How much feedback has there been from these alleged users regarding the removal plans? ___

[FFmpeg-devel] [DECISION] Revoke the decision of dropping ffserver

Deadline: 2016-12-06 00:00 UTC. I propose, and put to the discussion, that the decision to drop ffserver is revoked, conditioned to the fixing of the technical issues that lead to it. In other words, if the technical problems that require dropping ffserver are resolved at the time it is about to