Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-09 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu
вт, 9 янв. 2024 г., 11:35 Mark Filipak : > On 1/8/24 01:46, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > > пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 09:13 Mark Filipak : > > > >> On 1/8/24 00:26, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > >>> пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 05:14 Mark Filipak : > What is it that you want to know? > >>> > >>> I think I

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-09 Thread Mark Filipak
On 1/8/24 01:46, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 09:13 Mark Filipak : On 1/8/24 00:26, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 05:14 Mark Filipak : What is it that you want to know? I think I like to try and see bigger picture behind acronyms. What acronyms?

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-08 Thread Mark Filipak
On 1/8/24 01:46, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: Well, here lies the problem for us! Ffmpeg (command line utility) encodes those files straight away, so for example VLC displays them correctly. But our software (cinelerra-gg) so far was not setting st->sample_aspect_ratio so say webm encodes were

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-07 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu
пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 09:13 Mark Filipak : > On 1/8/24 00:26, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > > пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 05:14 Mark Filipak : > >> What is it that you want to know? > >> > > > > I think I like to try and see bigger picture behind acronyms. > > What acronyms? > SAR, DAR, PAR . > >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-07 Thread Mark Filipak
On 1/8/24 00:26, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 05:14 Mark Filipak : What is it that you want to know? I think I like to try and see bigger picture behind acronyms. What acronyms? At least this page explains how some 640*480 files might be born (it should be 486, but

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-07 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu
пн, 8 янв. 2024 г., 05:14 Mark Filipak : > On 1/7/24 17:34, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: > > > > Well, we (cinelerra-gg users/hackers/maintainers) run into aspect ratio > > issues too , and I tried to demistify it for myself ... only to run into > > much more complex explanation at > > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-07 Thread Mark Filipak
On 1/7/24 17:34, Andrew Randrianasulu wrote: Well, we (cinelerra-gg users/hackers/maintainers) run into aspect ratio issues too , and I tried to demistify it for myself ... only to run into much more complex explanation at https://lurkertech.com/lg/pixelaspect/ I'm sorry, I couldn't get past

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2024-01-07 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu
чт, 28 дек. 2023 г., 08:54 Kieran O Leary : > Hi Mark > > On Wed 27 Dec 2023 at 08:53, Mark Filipak > wrote: > > > On 12/27/23 01:58, Kieran O Leary wrote: > > > On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 22:53, Mark Filipak > > >> Oh, no! Mister Billipedia! Hahahaha... (where people who are as ill > > >> informed

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-27 Thread Kieran O Leary
Hi Mark On Wed 27 Dec 2023 at 08:53, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 12/27/23 01:58, Kieran O Leary wrote: > > On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 22:53, Mark Filipak > >> Oh, no! Mister Billipedia! Hahahaha... (where people who are as ill > >> informed as you are, get to > >> pontificate) > > > > > > I think you

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-27 Thread Mark Filipak
This is important to me. I sent it yesterday, but from the wrong account, so it wasn't accepted by ffmpeg-user. If you somehow got 2 of them, please accept my apology. (Between TBird's quirks and Gmail's quirks, email is driving me nuts.) On 12/27/23 01:58, Kieran O Leary wrote: On Tue 26 Dec

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-27 Thread Mark Filipak
This is important to me. I sent it yesterday, but from the wrong account, so it didn't get to ffmpeg-user. If you somehow got 2 of them, please accept my apology. On 12/27/23 01:58, Kieran O Leary wrote: On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 22:53, Mark Filipak Oh, no! Mister Billipedia! Hahahaha... (where

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-27 Thread Mark Filipak
On 12/27/23 01:58, Kieran O Leary wrote: On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 22:53, Mark Filipak Oh, no! Mister Billipedia! Hahahaha... (where people who are as ill informed as you are, get to pontificate) I think you must have misread the tone of Devin’s email, and I would hardly call him ill informed.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Kieran O Leary
On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 22:53, Mark Filipak wrote: > On 12/26/23 15:30, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 2:58 PM Mark Filipak > wrote: > >> Oops. Sorry. SAR for 16:9 DVD is 32/27. PAR is 3/2. > >> > >> You brought up 40/33. That's a PAR? A PAR for what? > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 12/26/23 15:30, Devin Heitmueller wrote: Hi Mark, On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 2:58 PM Mark Filipak wrote: Oops. Sorry. SAR for 16:9 DVD is 32/27. PAR is 3/2. You brought up 40/33. That's a PAR? A PAR for what? In this context SAR (Sample Aspect Ratio) and PAR (Pixel Aspect Ratio) are

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 12/26/23 16:03, Bouke / edit 'B wrote: On 26 Dec 2023, at 21:13, Mark Filipak wrote: How about stopping trolling if you know it all? The ‘imdb’ in your mail address makes you an even bigger jerk. It was a left over account from when imdb ended its forum. It means nothing. For a long

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Bouke / edit 'B
> On 26 Dec 2023, at 21:13, Mark Filipak wrote: How about stopping trolling if you know it all? The ‘imdb’ in your mail address makes you an even bigger jerk. Bouke ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Devin Heitmueller
Hi Mark, On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 2:58 PM Mark Filipak wrote: > Oops. Sorry. SAR for 16:9 DVD is 32/27. PAR is 3/2. > > You brought up 40/33. That's a PAR? A PAR for what? In this context SAR (Sample Aspect Ratio) and PAR (Pixel Aspect Ratio) are equivalent. Unfortunately the use of the term

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 12/26/23 14:37, Kieran O Leary wrote: Hi On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 17:25, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 12/25/2023 1:04 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Huh? "720x480 video with a display aspect ratio of 16:9" is what's on most 'NTSC' DVDs. Huh? The vast majority of DVDs I've handled were 4:3 then

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Mark Filipak
On 12/26/23 09:30, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:04 AM Mark Filipak wrote: On 12/22/23 16:09, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:57 PM Mark Filipak wrote: On 12/22/23 15:14, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak <

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Kieran O Leary
Hi On Tue 26 Dec 2023 at 17:25, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 12/25/2023 1:04 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: > > > > Huh? "720x480 video with a display aspect ratio of 16:9" is what's on > most > > 'NTSC' DVDs. > > Huh? The vast majority of DVDs I've handled were 4:3 then maybe > letterboxed > to only show

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 12/25/2023 1:04 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Huh? "720x480 video with a display aspect ratio of 16:9" is what's on most 'NTSC' DVDs. Huh? The vast majority of DVDs I've handled were 4:3 then maybe letterboxed to only show some wide-screen size (like 2.33:1). Only more recent content was shot

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-26 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:04 AM Mark Filipak wrote: > On 12/22/23 16:09, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:57 PM Mark Filipak > wrote: > >> On 12/22/23 15:14, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > >>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak < > markfilipak.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-25 Thread Mark Filipak
On 12/22/23 16:09, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:57 PM Mark Filipak wrote: On 12/22/23 15:14, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak wrote: This page: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-utils.html 'says' this: "The following abbreviations are

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-22 Thread Mark Filipak
Hi Devin, On 12/22/23 15:14, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak wrote: This page: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-utils.html 'says' this: "The following abbreviations are recognized: "‘sntsc’ "640x480" What is it? I'm not aware that any such thing exists.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-22 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 3:57 PM Mark Filipak wrote: > > Hi Devin, > > On 12/22/23 15:14, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak > > wrote: > >> > >> This page: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-utils.html > >> 'says' this: > >> > >> "The following abbreviations are

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-22 Thread Mark Filipak
Hi Devin, On 12/22/23 15:14, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak wrote: This page: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-utils.html 'says' this: "The following abbreviations are recognized: "‘sntsc’ "640x480" What is it? I'm not aware that any such thing exists.

Re: [FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-22 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 2:38 PM Mark Filipak wrote: > > This page: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-utils.html > 'says' this: > > "The following abbreviations are recognized: > "‘sntsc’ > "640x480" > > What is it? I'm not aware that any such thing exists. It's NTSC with square pixels (as opposed to

[FFmpeg-user] sntsc

2023-12-22 Thread Mark Filipak
This page: https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-utils.html 'says' this: "The following abbreviations are recognized: "‘sntsc’ "640x480" What is it? I'm not aware that any such thing exists. --Mark. ___ ffmpeg-user mailing list ffmpeg-user@ffmpeg.org