Title:
Dear Tony,
in fact, 2740S
compare to 2720S, we improved the A/D from 12bit to 14bit ( all they use ADI
product, the best in the suppliers ) to try to get more clear data come in. The
other hand is co-work with ASF to have ICE function inside, due to we're not
using LED ligh
The only very slight disagreement I'd have is that it might be possible
that if you open and save in JPEG format enough times, you might
actually reach a point where you are "chasing your tail" and that
certain random pixels will change one way one time and then
"Larry Berman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> VueScan 7.0.9 is available:
> http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
Thanks, Larry. There don't seem to have been any changes since 7.0 which
make any difference for me with an LS30.
Rob
Tony Sleep wrote
> Personally I prefer enlargers with AN glass on the base side, open
frame on the
> emulsion side, the best of both worlds. There has to be an
aftermarket
> opportunity here for popular scanners, I'd happily pay 80-100GBP for
a really
> good metal, half-glass adjustable strip hol
After being on the Flextight users list for a time I saw many dealing
with problems getting sharp scans edge to edge. Seems even the
"flexed" film goes in and out of focal plane. It's too expensive
anyway.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: PAUL GRAHAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Filmscanners
Well, since we have Acer listening now, I cannot but make a request:
Mr. Honda Lo and all the rest of interested filmscanner list members,
I have a 2720 that does not function properly. The problem is probably
background noise in the CCD. During calibration only the responsiveness to
the white l
May I say that it is WONDERFUL to have rep's of scanner makers, like David
from Polaroid, and now you, Honda, on the list, so thanks for joining in.
(OK, I admit it, it's *especially* good if it's the scanner you actually
have!)..
Rather than tangle up this forum, I'll be contacting other Acer u
From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:45 PM
> Mark writes ...
>
> > From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "film scanner list"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 5:55 AM
> >
> >
> > > What is more ... Ed informs me there is no s
I've been requested off list to expand on my earlier comment "I've
spent alot of effort learning how to get the best 24x36" prints
possible from an Epson 7000", so
I've found (as many of you undoubtedly have), that monitor calibration
is first and most important, and I'm currently using Color
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:58:46 -0400, you wrote:
>VueScan 7.0.9 is available:
>http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html
What's interesting are the Release Notes..
What's new in version 7.0.10
* Fixed problem with infrared cleaning
* Fixed problem with occasional 8 second delay at
start of sca
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:44:57 +0300 (EET DST) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hugo_G=E4vert?=
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Tony Sleep wrote:
> > >If you merely open and save a JPEG at the same compression,
> > >without editing, you lose nothing
> > With my small and simple test I found other results :-)
>
> Co
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:37:09 +0100 Alan Tyson
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Is it perhaps that jpeg is specially suited to
> 'photographic' images, and not to areas of single solid
> colours with sharp edges like Henk's image? The latter is
> rare in photographic images, and lossless gif does an
> > And here's their new 2400dpi flatbed/tranny scanner
> > http://consumer.usa.canon.com/scanners/csd2400uf/index.html
>
> Interesting that they list FARE as a feature on this flatbed scanner.
> FARE is the name they gave to their IR defect removal technology in their
> 4000 dpi filmscanner anno
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:45:35 -0700 shAf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> It is most likely a simple matrix type profile as determined
> by Ed, which also takes into account selectable film type. This is
> speculation on my part, but I don't believe Ed uses a "conversion
> engine", rather a mathemat
Sure there are:
7.01
* Added Eject button
* Fixed problem with scan stopping when Scan tab
chosen during scan
7.02
* If Abort button is pressed and "Device|Auto eject"
is set to "Preview" or "Scan", eject won't be done
7.09
* If cleaning filter selected, infrared channel
enabl
--- You wrote:
Anyway, I just know I'm going to be nit-picked to death about my very
simplified descriptions to what are very complex mathematical functions,
but I hope this is somewhat helpful in explaining the differences
between JPEG and other compression methods, and why a photograph shows
Tony wrote:
> Sorry, I have no direct (test) evidence about this, and it appears a
> prejudicial comment. Whether qualitatively inferior to other
implementations
> of ICE (as some have said), I don't know, but the extra pass for IR is
slower.
Well, it is most definitely slower. And Ed Hamrick say
>I've just loaded it: it's Vuescan 7.0.10.
Was 7.0.9 yesterday, .10 today.
Approximate release date history:
7.0.10 4-3
7.0.94-2
7.0.83-30
7.0.73-28
7.0.6
7.0.53-24
7.0.43-23
7.0.33-19
7.0.2
7.0.13-15
7.0 3-12
--
Bob Shomler
http://www.shomler.
I second that... truthe be told, we are all babes in the woods on this digital
darkroom thing... quite literally, the blind leading the blind... to end this
with another cliche that applies ... The only stupid question is the one you
don't ask...
Mike M.
Tony Sleep wrote:
> I've had a few mail
Arthur Entlich wrote:
> Rome wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'm new to this... What is this 'Vuescan' you all talk about?
>> Do I need it?
> It is apparently a requirement to be on this list (BIG GRIN--- A JOKE!!!)
>
> Vuescan is a program written by Ed Hamrick, who is a sometimes
> subscriber here. It i
The difficult part is re-saving the file with the same compression ratio
as it had originally.
Even the mighty Photoshop just uses one compression ratio for all JPEG
file saves. That compression ratio can be set manually , but how do you
ensure it is exactly the same as the original ratio, esp
- Original Message -
From: Rob Geraghty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Printing A3 from a 2700dpi scan
> ...
> I believe that for some reason there is more CCD noise in the blue channel
> than other channels.
Mark writes ...
> From: "shAf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:45 PM
>
> > ... This is
> > speculation on my part, but I don't believe Ed uses a "conversion
> > engine", rather a mathematical matrix transform. ...
>
> Micheal,
>
> It is of no use to
I've been holding off weighing in on this subject area because I'm not
expert but I may be able to shed some light. I just ran some experiments and
I put the images into a directory on our website:
http://www.asf.com/temp/. Our webmaster helped out by converting all the
tifs to jpegs for viewing (
> I second that... truthe be told, we are all babes in the woods on
> this digital
> darkroom thing... quite literally, the blind leading the blind...
> to end this
> with another cliche that applies ... The only stupid question is
> the one you
> don't ask...
>
> Mike M.
remember, you asked
I must admit that when I wrote my comments below I was only considering
files openened and saved as .jpg files from within editing applications like
Photoshop and did not take into account files saved to .jpg files
automatically by such devices as cameras. Just speculating; but wouldn't
opening t
> Mike: Thanks for the color setting information for the skin tones,
> especially
> as it related to the print.
>
Actually, it reminded me of a print (pre digital) that nearly drove me
crazy. I had photographed by roommates girl friend against an off white
wall. When I corrected the color so t
> Your results will vary depending on the image you use. I hope this data is
> useful. Your conclusions will vary depending on your needs obviously.
>
I did a similar test using a 1k by 1k piece out of the PhotoDisc test image.
The original image is extremely sharp and contains nice flesh tones a
> I think every reference I've seen regarding noise is scanned images
> identifies the Blue channel as being the most noisy. I have never seen an
> explanation of why this is so, but does not appear to be dependant on the
> light source or specific scanner. Maybe the noise isn't coming the film?
>
It's also very cheap compared to any other option.
Tim A
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rome
> Sent: April 3, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: filmscanners: Re: What's Vuescan
>
>
> Arthur Entlich wrote:
>
> > Ro
Derek wrote:
>The difficult part is re-saving the file with the same compression ratio as
it had originally.
>Even the mighty Photoshop just uses one compression ratio for all JPEG file
saves.
You can save at the same compression ratio, but that doesn't mean much. I
noticed this several months a
I just ran some experiments and
I put the images into a directory on our website:
http://www.asf.com/temp/. Our webmaster helped out by converting all the
tifs to jpegs for viewing (uh-oh). I've asked him to convert them back,
The converted-back ones will be just a
why not handle it the way you did when shooting black and white film? why not
revert to filters to lighten the skin tones, rather than trying to correct
them later with photoshop?
Bob wrote:
>I think every reference I've seen regarding noise is scanned images
identifies the Blue channel as being the most noisy. I have never seen
anexplanation of why this is so, but does not appear to be dependant on the
light source or specific scanner. Maybe the noise isn't coming the fil
"Robert E. Wright" wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Rob Geraghty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: filmscanners: Printing A3 from a 2700dpi scan
>
> > ...
> > I believe that for some reason there is more CCD noise in
I am a photo-amateur and I like Vuescan because it delivers pro-functions
with ease of use and unmatched support .
Sincerely.
Ezio
- Original Message -
From: "Tim Atherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:29 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re:
Jerry Oostrom wrote:
> I have a 2720 that does not function properly. The problem is probably
> background noise in the CCD. During calibration only the responsiveness to
> the white light is calibrated for each CCD pixel. I think you can compare
> it to determining the whitepoint for each pixel.
I decided to put my money where my mouth is ;-) and I just took an
image, which mainly consisted of some color areas and some typeface, and
ran it through Photoshop's jpeging. With one set, I used level 4 and
the other set I applied level 2. In each case, I did a series of ten
jpegs applicat
Has anyone had much success with Nikon Scan 3.0 and the LS4000? The software
seems practically useless as it stands.
I get repeated crashes in several different dlls. I have found some work arounds
and have actually managed to do some scans but these workarounds are time
consuming and extremely a
>"Close" and "Save" are usually quite a lot different operations.
Good point. I accept that I and others may have been sloppy in our use of
the terms as well as our keeping clear the consequence that have stemmed
from each of the operations.
>If you did not change anything in the file - then wh
Sorry
to jump into the middle of a conversation ( which might mean that my reading of
your remarks is out of context and my response may therefore
inappropriate). Since I believe this has been a discussion of color images
and not black and white ones, I would respond that I do not know of a
Joe wrote:
> CCD's (Charged Couple Device) used in scanners and digital cameras
> are least sensitive to blues, making it difficult for them to
> interpret those colors correctly. File compression (such as with
> jpeg) can also contribute to noise in the blue channel.
OK, but as I mentioned earli
Maris wrote:
>Sure there are:
[snip]
:) Sure, but none of those changes are of any real significance to me.
I'm more interested in changes which will affect scan results. Like separating
the clean and grain reduction functions.
Rob
Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wordweb.com
Just found this at CretaiveProse.com it's a well written and concise
article on the storage medium that most of us trusting our hard won
images to. One thing it says, is that the green CD-R's are the worst
when it comes to compatibility with DVD drives as well as other CD
drives..
http://www.c
Here is another good link on burning CD-R
http://www.mscience.com/faq.html
Mike M.
Robert E. Wright wrote:
> I think every reference I've seen regarding noise is scanned images
> identifies the Blue channel as being the most noisy. I have never seen an
> explanation of why this is so, but does not appear to be dependant on the
> light source or specific scanner. Maybe the no
Without wishing to add to you "pain" ;-), I was surprised to determine
that this exact situation (the "leveling" of the compression) occurs
much sooner than I expected. You will probably have noted that via my
recent posting to that effect, where I monitored file sizes after
repeated Jpeg co
Todd Radel wrote:
>
> Other than Acer's incredibly bad tech support and buggy software (see my
> earlier post), I've been quite happy with the 2740S, especially with VueScan
> and the GIMP. I think it's a good value for the money.
>
> --
> Todd Radel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Todd,
It would a
Hey, Bill... your webmaster also made those files password protected
Mike M.
Bill Ross wrote:
> I just ran some experiments and
> I put the images into a directory on our website:
> http://www.asf.com/temp/. Our webmaster helped out by converting all the
> ti
Dear Mr. Lo,
Simply as a member of this list, I am very pleased to see that Acer has
a member of your company monitoring here, and that you have chosen to
reply to a comment made by Tony.
I do not know how long you or your company have been monitoring here,
but I am sure that some of your curren
Hi Richard,
As an Amiga user myself, for many years, (in fact, I was using an Amiga
when I was involved with the JPEG group), the answer is today, most
computers should not have any problems dealing with jpeg decompression,
but the Amiga is a now an "Amiga vieja" (old lady friend), and that
expla
All this discussion of skin tones, etc., only underlines my contention
that the best way to get calibrated for color and stay there is to get a
shot of a black/18%gray/white card under the same light conditions your
subject and set your points to that
Mike M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> why
Thank you Michael. I just copied a music CD for my daughter - brand new
Plextor and brand new Kodak disc - and it wouldn't play on my living room
DVD. Now I know the probable reason why.
Maris
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
While I do not think that this effort was specifically directed at me, the
fact that my comments are included as part of the message gives me the right
to make a comment or two on my behalf, which in no way is related to your
message. :-)
As Hugo made me realize, I was using the terms "saved" and
At 09:43 AM 4/04/01 +1000, Rob wrote:
>OK, but as I mentioned earlier - we're talking about *negatives*
>where this problem is most evident, not transparencies, so the
>colour the CCD sees isn't blue at all.
>
>Does anyone know whether the grain sizes vary with the dye
>colour?
Yes, they certainly
Hi,
I have recently bought a minolta dimage scan II and I am new to film
scanning. I would really appreciate if any of you could point me to a site
which has a few pictures scanned on some of the real expensive
(>600$)scanners at high resolutions (>=2700dpi).
thanks
cinu
Arthur Entlich wrote:
> It would appear you might have an answer to some of your frustrations in
> that Acer appears to be monitoring this list. Perhaps Mr. Lo will be
> able to start facilitating some changes to benefit all Scanwit owners.
Well, it seems that my earlier problems on Win2k may be
It seems the algorithm rather rapidly reaches the point of "no further
benefit" and stabilizes the file size, and likely also the amount of
change in the pixel structure.
Yes, perhaps with variations of degree between programs. Until
a lower-quality rating is sel
cinu writes ...
> ... I would really appreciate if any of you could point me to a site
> which has a few pictures scanned on some of the real expensive
> (>600$)scanners at high resolutions (>=2700dpi).
Although many wwwsites may present images which were originally
scanned at PPI>2700, they
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:33:06 -0400 Todd Radel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I
> do not have another ICE scanner to compare it with, so I cannot evaluate
> Tony's comment that the Acer does an inferior job. ICE at a reasonable price
> was the main reason I bought this model.
Sorry, I have no dire
I've had a few mails from people lately asking if I can suggest a list for
beginners!
This list is for people at *all* stages of incompetence and confusion :)
Regards
Tony Sleep
http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info &
comparisons
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:14 -0400 Austin Franklin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> > that with 8 bits, you get rounding errors during successive mathematical
> > operations on the data.
>
> That's kind of only part of the reason. It has to do with re-mapping 8 bit
> values to 8 bit values, you lo
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